Your Top 5 Western RPGs and Your Top 5 JRPGs (Single Player)

Recommended Videos

NeutralDrow

New member
Mar 23, 2009
9,097
0
0
Hmm...that's actually a pretty good question. Let's see what I can come up with. I'll warn you, I'm sort of old-school in this (i.e. I haven't played a lot of more recent titles).

WRPGs

5. Soulbringer

I suspect I would be one of only a few people willing to call this a good game. I plan to review it eventually, but for now...graphics were decent, the motion capture was slightly clunky but worked very well where it mattered (the awesome melee combat), it was fun to explore, the spells tended to look cool (even if only half of them were useful), and the stat system was simple but effective.

4. Curse of the Azure Bonds

Hey, "old school," remember? Out of the gold box Forgotten Realms games, this is the one I remember the most vividly. It was a giant step ahead of its predecessor (Pool of Radiance) in graphics and being able to tell things apart, it was open-ended enough to be fun, and the story was actually pretty decent. Coincidentally, it also instilled in me my love of drow, and is thus responsible for a good chunk of my internet persona.

3. Planescape Torment

I'm no stranger to reading. A game with this depth, and a giant portion of that depth in dialogue, is really cool. And for some reason, the combat didn't annoy me like Baldur's Gate did.

2. Wizardry 8

Oh hells yes. Very deep character creation and customization, large open world, 36 different possible voices for your characters (meaning 36 different, often deeper-than-expected, personalities), and a good story to go with it.

1. ...

Okay, so I need to buff up more on some recent titles. I guess...the Dragonlance gold box RPGs? Might and Magic 2? Huh.


JRPGs

5. Disgaea

Not higher in the list because I've barely started. I'm loving it so far.

4. Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

Yes, this deserves its own spot. Mainly because I'm one of the few people (on these forums, at least) who liked the game. The combat system felt much easier to get used to, the romance was (eventually) well-done, the voice acting was good (especially the decision to add voice acting to the C-skits), and having a really dark antihero for an antagonist was a cool touch. If the Mystic Artes were as flashy as in Tales of the Abyss, I'd have been ecstatic.

3. Final Fantasy VI

I've yet to finish this one, too, but I'm almost there. The Active Time Battle system is decently tense, the customization and power of the espers was fun, each of the characters still manages to be unique in spite of that, and the story and characters are wonderful. Besides, the train scene and the opera scene had me in tears, and the last fight against Humbaba would have had me in tears if I wasn't already cheering with righteous anger.

2. Baten Kaitos Origins

Really, I'd sing the praises of both games, but I'll give the prequel the nod in this case. In contrast to the sraightforward turn-based system of the first, the prequel has probably the best Active Time combat system I've seen, and few things are as blood-pumpingly awesome as building large, flashy relay combos (not to mention the EX Combos were much more intuitive than the first game). And few things accentuate that <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKPxXRbYl6s>blood-pumping <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRNCUdThacI&fmt=18>awesomeness like Matoi Sakuraba's music (seriously, I could <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lB0b0fHbAY>list <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoBcqdPx-Y>tracks <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFaxYJ97VSA>all <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz-jFRuvA2o&fmt=18>day). Also, I'm hard pressed to say which story I like better, especially since both use their gimmick (the player is a "guardian spirit" who talks to and advises the main character) for a few surprising twists.

1. Tales of Symphonia

You didn't expect me to say anything different, did you? Great realtime combat, characters I cared a lot about (two or three in particular), fun puzzles, Matoi Sakuraba's music, and a pretty damn good story to boot. What more could I say?
 

Lambi

Yuki-Onna
Oct 20, 2009
30,217
0
0
From first (top) to last (bottom):

Western:

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (the first)
Fallout 3
Vampire - The Masquerade Bloodlines
Dragon Age: Origins
Oblivion

Japanese:

Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy IX (can't decide which one is better)
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Kingdom Hearts (if it counts, otherwise Final Fantasy XII)
Final Fantasy VI
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria

(Why yes, I do play alot of Final Fantasy, it would seem.
The only Final Fantasy's I didn't meantion here are I, VIII, X and X-2. These, along with the ones on the Top 5 list (except VI), are the FFs I've beaten.)
 

Julianking93

New member
May 16, 2009
14,715
0
0
Western:

Oblivion
Fallout 3
Uh...Oblivion again

JRPGs:

Demon's Souls
Kingdom Hearts
...Kingdom Hearts II

Damn it! I never realized how few rpgs I play till now.
 

Yumi_and_Erea

New member
Nov 11, 2009
2,150
0
0
West:
1: Morrowind.
2: Deus Ex.
3: LOTR: The Third Age.
4: Dungeons and Dragons Heroes.
5: Oblivion.

Japanese:
1: Final Fantasy IX.
2: Legend of the Dragoon.
3: Skies of Arcadia.
4: Tales of Symphonia.
5: Final Fantasy X.
 

Comic Sans

DOWN YOU GO!
Oct 15, 2008
598
2
23
Country
United States
I'm a big fan of RPGs in any form. I got Pokemon and Dragon Quest 1/2 when I was like 10 or 11, have been playing RPGs ever since. I love Western RPGs, but on some levels prefer the JRPG. I can understand why people like or dislike both, but I must say I tend to not like people who hate JRPGs so much. While they can seem samey sometimes, the devil is in the details. Would you agree that Halo and Half-Life 2 are too samey? Hell no. They are both FPS games, but they play totally differently beyond that in pacing and style. To someone not familiar with gaming they seem like the same, and good luck explaining it, but they aren't. That's how I feel about JRPGs. The core is the same, but the little differences are what make all the difference. People who hate on them seem to stick on the feminine males and turn-based combat, but really it's ignorance. Many JRPGs don't have feminine protagonists. That's mostly a Square Enix thing. And many WRPGs are turn based as well. KOTOR is completely turn based, the only difference is you are battling on the overworld rather than standing there clearly taking turns. It's not really that different from FF12. Like I said, people have their own tastes, but I don't really like the hatred for JRPGs that seems spawned from misconceptions and stereotypes.

Anyhoo, my lists in no particular order.

Western:
Mass Effect
Dragon Age: Origins (haven't played as much as I'd like yet but love it)
Fallout 3
KOTOR/KOTOR 2
Jade Empire

Japanese:
Dragon Quest 3
Dragon Quest 8 (this is pretty much my favorite game)
Pokemon (as a series. I did competitive battling for a while, and that's great stuff if you get good at it. Hell, I have access to Policy Review on Smogon, or at least did a few years ago when I last posted. Pokenerds here will get it)
Final Fantasy X (didn't finish it, though, the disc got broken)
Golden Sun Series
 

kawaiiamethist

New member
Nov 21, 2009
779
0
0
My (current and subject to change) top 5 fave JRPGs:

Final Fantasy XII
Lost Odyssey
Shadow Hearts
Final Fantasy X
Shadow Hearts II
 

Flamezdudes

New member
Aug 27, 2009
3,696
0
0
I'm only 15 so to those out there who could reply asking why things like Baldurs gate aren't there, shut up.

I haven't played many Eastern RPG's, Western games just appeal to me more although i did like Final Fantasy X, VII and VIII.

Western: Mass Effect(Probably soon to be ME2), Fallout 3, Dragon Age: Origins, The Elder Scrolls series (Both Morrowind and Oblivion). I did just get KOTOR 2 from my friend for free and its suppose to be good but the graphics are really putting me off.
 

darkkan2125

New member
Jan 2, 2010
150
0
0
WRPG

1.KotoR
2.Oblivion
3.Fall Out 3
4.Dragon Age
5.Mass Effect

JRPG
1.Suikoden 5
2.Pokemon Silver
3.Pokemon Ruby
4.Suikoden 3
5.ummm yea i need to get back to you on that
 

Maeshone

New member
Sep 7, 2009
323
0
0
Western:
Mass Effect
Dragon Age: Origins
The Witcher
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
Knights of the Old Republic 1&2

Eastern:
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy VII
Kingdom Hearts/Kingdom Hearts 2/Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Final Fantasy X
Pokemon Gold
 

Ultress

Volcano Girl
Feb 5, 2009
3,377
0
0
WRPGS: 1.Jade Empire: combat was fun,and the characters were great but the story is what put it over the top.
2.Oblivion:Freedom and grand theft trousers. I can't say much else.

Haven't played any others I can say I enjoyed except for maybe Fallout 3 so: 3. Fallout 3.

Jrpgs:

5.Tales of Symphonia: great characters, a fun combat system, and a enjoyable if mediocre story

4.Tales of Vesperia: Same as Symphonia, but the battle system got better.

3. Wild Arms 3: It took what made Wild Arms 2 great and polished it to a mirror shine. The characters were great and Virgina is one of the better female leads outside of Terra from FF6. It also hit that dessert wasteland feel the series was aiming for the best.

2. Persona 3: It had that interesting Dating Sim/Dungeon crawler thing going and the setting was superb. I felt like I really knew the characters due to the long time I spent with them and the story was top-notch.

1. FF6: The story is still one of my favorites, Kefka is a great villain in that he's bat shit crazy. I loved the cast each had there faults and tragedies and the almost open world second half is genius.
 

Grayjack

New member
Jan 22, 2009
3,133
0
0
WRPG's:
Erm, Fallout 3? That's really the only one I've ever played.

JRPG's: (No particular order)
Nocturne
Digital Devil Saga
Persona 3
Devil Summoner 2
Golden Sun 2
 

Zefar

New member
May 11, 2009
485
0
0
I like how people claim that jRPGs involves in saving the universe and claim that's their only goal. Well here are some things that wRPGs need to save.

Kotor = Universe
Mass Effect = Universe
NeverWinter Nights = The world
Fallout 3 = The world
Oblivion = The world
Fable = Save your daughter? All though I think the world was in need of saving too.
Borderlands = ....Nothing really, you killed everything for your own gain.
Diablo 2 = The world.

Looks like you wRPGs fans shouldn't complain about things that Japanese RPGs wants to save when your genre does the very same thing. I haven't played the rest of them but I'm betting "Saving the world/Universe" is the on the list.

As for the list.

wRPG
1: Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction, all though I think this is more of a hack'n'slash.
2: Kotor. Even though you had to PAUSE the game after every single turn it was fine. So you gave out 3 attack orders and it carried them out.
3: Oblivion. It was fun while it lasted. I remember when I back attacked someone who slept while having a guard in the same room but wasn't facing me. So I charged my two handed sword and did a instant kill sneak attack on the person. Making a lot of noise in the process and the guard just stood at the far end of the room staring into a wall. :) Pretty fun.
4: Fallout 3, 45 hours spent on it but didn't finish the game and I have no intention of doing it.
5: Neverwinter Nights. It was somewhat fun but the combat wasn't that great.

jRPGs
1: Tales of Abyss. (All I'm gonna say is, Japanese voice + English text = Very enjoyable game. Though you can't really do this but I did....)
2: Final Fantasy 7. It's what got me into jRPGs and I still find Cloud to be really cool. He swing that Buster sword like a butter knife.
3: Star Ocean series. Pretty fun ones and good combat.
4: Final Fantasy 1 Remake on the GBA. Good game. For FF fans, you might just want to check it out for nostalgia gameplay. It's not that bad and it looks nice too.
5: Tales of Phantasia. Good old SNES game. Fighting was done in a more active type but it was from the side then. Still a lot of fun and LOADS of skills. Something wRPGs lack.


I don't hate wRPGs but they never really make me laugh, with the exception of Kotor with the evil robot but other than that they are usually boring. jRPGs are not, Tales of Abyss being the latest I played and I enjoyed some a lot of it. The main hero actually changes quite a lot in the game too.

I doubt anyone here wants to play Tales of Abyss with English voice actors. Lucky for me I was able to avoid that. :p
 

Enderrr

New member
Dec 8, 2009
116
0
0
Couldn't name only 5 WRPGs:
1. Baldurs Gate series
2. Fallout 1-3
3. Deus Ex
4. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
5. Dragon Age Origins
6. Mass Effect
7. KOTOR
8. Fable 2
9. Neverwinter Nights 2
10. Oblivion

JRPGs:
1. Chrono Trigger
2. FFVII
3. Secret of Mana 2
4. Tales of Phantasia
5. FFVIII
 

Xvito

New member
Aug 16, 2008
2,114
0
0
WRPGs

1. Fallout 3.
2. The Ur-Quan Masters.
3. Oblivion.
4. Fable.
5. Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction.
Honorable Mention: Nethack, for being so incredibly hard...

JRPGs

1. Kingdom Hearts.
2. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
3. Demon's Souls.
4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
5. Final Fantasy X
Honorable Mention: The Pokémon-series, for helping me learn the English language... Oh, and it's fun to play too...
 

Enderrr

New member
Dec 8, 2009
116
0
0
Are we counting zelda games? Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time and probably Twilight Princess would all easily top my JRPG list then.
 

Graustein

New member
Jun 15, 2008
1,756
0
0
I like how so many people decry JRPGs for being so samey, and in the same post list Bioware, Black Isle and Bethesda products almost exclusively for their "top WRPG" list.

I suppose I'd better place mine, then.

Western:

The only Infinity Engine game that ever hooked me, mostly because of its supreme lack of focus on combat. I found the Infinity Engine's combat system far more frustrating than that of any JRPG I have ever played - this is why I have never finished Baldur's Gate. The cast of supporting characters was also fantastic. Your first companion is a floating, talking skull, and they only get more interesting from there.

This game satisfies my inner munchkin to no end. The insane amount of customisation allowed and incredible number of builds (viable or not) has caused this game to provide me with endless enjoyment. The story itself is not one to sneeze at, either. Although very few people will pay any amount of attention to the story and dialogue, I for one found it incredibly deep and interesting.

The story, and Deekin, where largely what drew me into this game. Like the Infinity Engine, mentioned above, I had major issues with the combat system. It was, to put it mildly, extremely boring between dialogue. However, there was a great deal of satisfaction and closure at the end, when I Truenamed the Big Bad to his death, thus avoiding a tedious battle. Too bad there was still such a focus on combat.

This is another one of those "pull-me-in-by-the-throat" games. While I have never played a Fallout game, I am told this game is basically a steampunk version of it, which is the single best argument one can make for me playing Fallout.

I don't really have a fifth. It's not that I've not played any other WRPGs, it's just that I don't think any of them really merit a spot here. Any game that I place in this spot would have won that spot by virtue of me disliking it less than any of the alternatives. A game that's only a favourite by default isn't really a favourite in any non-semantic sense of the word (despite how much I do love my semantics).

Japanese:

The most heartwarming, heartbreaking bundle of fun that I have ever had the pleasure to experience. I hold this game to be the pinnacle of storytelling in games. No other game has made me cry for the characters, or truly dread facing the final boss once I discover who he is. The actual gameplay is solid, and the music is excellent, but both of these are blown away by the atmosphere that these two features, together, manage to bring to the table. Despite Lucas being a silent protagonist, there is no other character for whom I have cried (Except, perhaps, Flint in the same game). As you may have noticed, I am in fact physically incapable of criticising this game. Any criticism that could be levelled at it is overshadowed by how it manages to make me feel, with its wonderful little 2D GBA sprite graphics. It's just that good.

This game is fantastic. No two ways about it. The characters are memorable, the story is immersive and grand, the gameplay stays interesting throughout and the visuals - as proven by the recent DS remake - hold up wonderfully to this day. While I'm sure flaws in it exist, the only criticism that I can think of to level at it is that I wish they'd have gone into greater depth about Robo's backstory. When the only problem you have with a game is "I wish there were more of it", you don't have room to complain.

I fell deeply in love with tactical RPGs with FFTA, this game's precurser. It provided me with many pleasurable memories of gunner-only parties and the like. The sequel improved upon this game manyfold: the law system is less byzantine, battles no longer become unwinnable due to the presence of a single Flan and, best of all, there's two new races and a whole slew of extra jobs. This is my favourite kind of sequel: the kind that takes what the previous game had, polishes it, smooths out some rough edges and then provides more of the same.

I list these two together because, storywise, they are the same game. Radiant Dawn is, largely, the kind of sequel I mentioned above when speaking of FFTA2, with the added bonus of a continuous story to link the two together (FFTA and FFTA2 are linked only thematically). Fire Emblem in general has a story that, while on a smaller scale than most ("save your country from invasion by another country" rather than "collect the cosmic keystones to save the multiverse from Cthulhu"), feels so much grander because it is so much more personal. To this it adds a terrific strategic game that, while frustrating, is the best proof in the world that turn-based, luck-based combat is hardly mindless.

I have been a fan of Pokemon since the beginning, and found each installment to be an improvement upon the last. Gold and Silver worked to fix some horrific balance issues in the first games, allowed you to find out what moves did in ways other than experimentation and introduced such concepts as breeding, a day/night cycle and gender, on top of throwing in a hundred new Pokemon and I don't know how many new attacks to vary up the cast a little. Ruby and Sapphire took this further, with some of my favourite Pokemon coming from this generation (Gardevoir, Metagross, Blaziken) and the addition of Abilities, which added to the game to no end. Diamond and Pearl finally divided attacks into Special of Physical, an addition I hold dear to my heart. No longer is a Mightyena (which looks like a big dog) somehow unable to seriously harm an Alakazam (which looks like a frail old man) despite the fact that it is biting the Alakazam's face off. Platinum, then, is the pinnacle of the Pokemon series, at least in my eyes.
 

Vortigar

New member
Nov 8, 2007
862
0
0
I'll turn it around to keep things interesting:

JRPG's:
5 Phantasy Star 2 (FF7's gambit: "awww, the girl dies", been there, done that!)
4 Valkyria Chronicles
3 Secret of Mana
2 Shining Force 2
1 Final Fantasy V (5, dagnabbit, 5!)

WRPG's
5 Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
4 Baldur's Gate 2
3 Fallout 2
2 Fallout 3
1 Diablo 2


NeutralDrow said:
2. Wizardry 8
Seriously didn't expect that title to pop up, awesome.