For me, it would simply be one where humanity finally wakes up and realizes that we are all one big community that is extremely similar to one another despite what many of us may think and that we all finally just get along and stop fighting and forcefully controlling each other for stupid reasons. It would be a society where the first response of any individual or organized group/establishment when confronted with something unusual, unknown, or even seemingly threatening wouldn't be to suddenly attack or avoid it, but instead to approach it open-mindedly and with an attitude of empathy and understanding. There would also be no poverty, no bigotry, no other discrimination, etc., etc. and instead humanity would work together to create an awesome existence for us all to enjoy by focusing our efforts in a more creative direction through technological and artistic ingenuity in order to make life more of an actually enjoyable and fun experience, rather than one that is so often plagued by suffering and crushed dreams and hatred and boredom and stupidity and so on and so on. In other words, just a place where humanity actually manages to reach our truly vast and grand potential as the intelligent (well, at least some humans are lol) species we are.
Your View of a Utopian Society
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Impossible, because, humanity being what it is currently, no matter what happens, short of brainwashing, which is actually dystopian, one can not create a perfect society, which is why Utopia means "non-place" in Greek. The proper term for a perfect society would be Eutopia, strikingly similar, but different.
To be honest, I'd say that humans need to lose their sense of emotion. Its probably the only way to stop them from being self centered bastards.
They don't need to lose it, just distance themselves from it. Which is actually not all that hard to do.FC Groningen said:
Utopia? There are no more humans, and therefore, no need for a society. Seriously, all we seem to be is space/resource parasites. I know we have good things, but it's hard to think of them when almost always they end up being produced in such a way that makes more harm than good.
I agree with you. That's actually why I use the word Utopia, because I am well aware that that would never be possible, human tendencies being what they are hahahaha. It's pretty sad, really, that humans are so naturally fucked up. So much wasted potential... :-((((chetoos said:
My view of a Utopian Society, would be like those that lose their hate for others because of race or stereotypes. Hell you can hate someone because they're a dick, just as long as it's for their race or such.
But really an Utopian Society would only be possible if people lose their sense of emotion or free thinking. Ever read the books Anthem or Fahrenheit 451? Sorta like that. Sorta
But really an Utopian Society would only be possible if people lose their sense of emotion or free thinking. Ever read the books Anthem or Fahrenheit 451? Sorta like that. Sorta
True. Humanity would finally set aside their differences in this last desperate stand against alien invaders. Pretty lame that we'd all probably just get torn the fuck up in the end by said alien invaders...2fish said:What it would take to make a human utopia:
Granted your utoptia would last maybe a month tops but you would get one.
or the hand of god your choice.
yeah, utopia isn't really possible. People are just too animal. I have some ideas that I think would get us a pretty good society, but they are too long to write out. It involves a pyramid-like government to limit the potential abuses of government, as well as to ensure that each individual has the maximum possible say in what happens in their life. It's based on a low-regulation capitalism system that regulates by giving incentives to good processes instead of by penalizing bad processes.
I have pages and pages on it, i'm thinking about writing something about it. a paper, or a small book or something.
I have pages and pages on it, i'm thinking about writing something about it. a paper, or a small book or something.
People need to get over this "remove emotion" crap. Logic is a tool of the emotions which gives no end unto itself... if you remove emotion, there is no motive force to any human action; even the desire to survive is fueled by emotion.
A Utopian Society is a Paradox, because a Utopia is a Perfect Society and Perfection is to know all, and be all. But I believe a Utopia is possibly the worst thing ever imaginable on this planet, for why on earth would anyone want to be perfect? To be perfect is to lose focus, and it is to lose purpose. A perfect being already knows all things and thus cannot learn anything.
I say that we are already in a Utopia; a Chaotic world that is random where everyone is their own being with their own imperfections. Anyone who believes that this world we are in now is a horrible one is both right and wrong, for we are the masters who must fashion this verse so that our own imperfectness can shape it into a vast society that signifies the All and None of Order and Chaos. Only then will this silly dream known as 'Utopia' die like it should, and the true destiny of mankind continue forward.
I say that we are already in a Utopia; a Chaotic world that is random where everyone is their own being with their own imperfections. Anyone who believes that this world we are in now is a horrible one is both right and wrong, for we are the masters who must fashion this verse so that our own imperfectness can shape it into a vast society that signifies the All and None of Order and Chaos. Only then will this silly dream known as 'Utopia' die like it should, and the true destiny of mankind continue forward.
Utopia is a false ideal, the moment we reach it, all desire to do...well...anything will go straight out the window. There'd be no innovation, no exploration, hell, most of the population will cease having sex because they feel like they won't need to, pregnancy and birth being such distastefully messy things as they are. We'd all be born from test tubes
Interesting points you have there. I can see where you're coming from, but I still think that our current state isn't balanced at all. In a truly balanced world there wouldn't be starving kids in Africa while asshole CEOs are living in Penthouses and getting blowjobs from thousand-dollar hookers. A truly balanced world would have people's actions being directly rewarded or punished in a manner that correlates exactly to the degree of their action. Instant Karma, in other words. That would definitely be nice, at least, if we can't have my ideal Utopia.Chase Yojimbo said:
Lol, you kidding? People would be boning like crazy in a Utopia. They'd probably make the Karma Sutra Parts 2, 3, 4, and 5 seeing as they'd probably perfect birth control and there would be more mates to get with considering that there wouldn't be all that hate and divisiveness in the world. Also, people would probably be more attractive as a whole cuz of better health and lifestyle choices and natural evolution through racial integration where the best attributes of each race getting more and more present in each person.Servallier said:
I love the over emotional self centred bastards to bits. Yeah they are the source of some of our biggest downfalls, but also some of our greatest achievements. I'd rather take the bad with the good than try to get rid of all of it, you know?FC Groningen said:
EDIT- And then I was all "Whoops, forgot to post what I actually think utopia means for me."
My idea of utopia? Humanity reaches for the stars. Off world colonies, all that jazz. In the end I would hope it would mean everybody can live long, fulfilling lives, not hampered by an unfortunate place of birth or a premature demise.
It is physically and technically impossible to make everyone happy so a Utopia is impossible. Let me explain. Everyone wants to be happy but what makes us happy is different. Some people love puppies some love riots. those two will not get along. Some people believe in sharing resources and burdens while other want to horde all they can get and have others do the dirty work. Theses are extremes but often the extremes that define the whole. Only a small minority of Muslims actively want to see Western civilization collapse but they put the entire population of Muslims in such a harsh light another extreme, the ultra right, demonize them to the point that a lunatic murdered dozens of innocent men, women and children in Oslo because he feared Muslims were taking over. Now every act of violence perpetrated by either extremes make us all look bad.
All,this said I still feel we can all try a little harder to be in the words of the great sage Bill S. Preston Esquire "Be excellent to each other"
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