Your View on Physically Hitting the Oppsite sex

[Kyouran]

"Hopefully, you've taught your son how to hit an open receiver, how to hit a fastball, how to hit a three pointer, and most important of all, how to hit the books. But have you taught him what not to hit? Tell your son that all violence against women is wrong."

Am I the only one sickened by the implications of this commercial whenever I hear it on the radio?

 

[Logan Westbrook]

To put this in a different light, let me give you an example.

You are in a club, and a girl comes over and starts yelling at you. You yell back and she slaps you hard in the face. Flushed with a sense of 'equality' you hit her back, square in the face, breaking her nose and giving her a mild concussion.

She staggers back, her nose gushing blood, confused and woozy. You, on the other hand, have a sore cheek.

This is the equality that many of you are describing.

That has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with responding with equal force. If a guy just slaps you or pushes your shoulder and you break his nose, is that somehow less bad then breaking the nose of a girl who just bitchslaped your face? No ofcourse not, in both situations you responded with too much force, regardless of gender. I know plenty of girls who can easily break my nose if they want to.

I agree, the situation I described is a use of excessive force, but read some of the posts on this thread an tell me that isn't the vibe you're getting from some people.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but if I am, then a lot of people need to do a much better job of explaining what they mean.

 

[Agayek]

To put this in a different light, let me give you an example.

You are in a club, and a girl comes over and starts yelling at you. You yell back and she slaps you hard in the face. Flushed with a sense of 'equality' you hit her back, square in the face, breaking her nose and giving her a mild concussion.

She staggers back, her nose gushing blood, confused and woozy. You, on the other hand, have a sore cheek.

This is the equality that many of you are describing.

That has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with responding with equal force. If a guy just slaps you or pushes your shoulder and you break his nose, is that somehow less bad then breaking the nose of a girl who just bitchslaped your face? No ofcourse not, in both situations you responded with too much force, regardless of gender. I know plenty of girls who can easily break my nose if they want to.

What this guy said. It's a stupidly huge increase in the force returned. In case we're not already sick of metaphors, that'd be like dropping a nuke on someone for a single gunshot.

If, in your example, the man had shoved her back, backhanded her, or something of the like, it would be perfectly acceptable in my book.

 

[mike1921]

"Hopefully, you've taught your son how to hit an open receiver, how to hit a fastball, how to hit a three pointer, and most important of all, how to hit the books. But have you taught him what not to hit? Tell your son that all violence against women is wrong."

Am I the only one sickened by the implications of this commercial whenever I hear it on the radio?

I never heard it, but yea I'm sickened

 

[Wyatt]

To put this in a different light, let me give you an example.

You are in a club, and a girl comes over and starts yelling at you. You yell back and she slaps you hard in the face. Flushed with a sense of 'equality' you hit her back, square in the face, breaking her nose and giving her a mild concussion.

She staggers back, her nose gushing blood, confused and woozy. You, on the other hand, have a sore cheek.

This is the equality that many of you are describing.

That has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with responding with equal force. If a guy just slaps you or pushes your shoulder and you break his nose, is that somehow less bad then breaking the nose of a girl who just bitchslaped your face? No ofcourse not, in both situations you responded with too much force, regardless of gender. I know plenty of girls who can easily break my nose if they want to.

I agree, the situation I described is a use of excessive force, but read some of the posts on this thread an tell me that isn't the vibe you're getting from some people.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but if I am, then a lot of people need to do a much better job of explaining what they mean.

your not wrong, i got the vibe that most people here are in their teens and hyped up on too much red bull.

i think the idea your looking for is called Measured Response.

if a puppy pisses on your flore you dont wip out a gun and shoot him, if a chick slaps you in the face you dont fist her back breaking her nose.

i think the real question in play though (its hard to tell through all the bumblin replys sometimes) is if you would apply the same Measured Response to a woman of the same size and mass in a given situation as you would a man.

should you treat a 120lbs woman who walks up in a bar and slaps you in the face different than you would treat a 120LBS man who did the same thing?

*I* wouldnt. but i also wouldnt vote to convict another than didnt. *I* wouldnt slap her back, but i also wouldnt be overly chuffed at someone who DID either.

 

[Abedeus]

Because you are the stronger sex. And you have (or at least should have - I know a guy that has problems lifting even 30kg on a bench, and he's perfectly healthy) enough strength to prevent her from attacking you. Twist her arm, if you must. Even if it hurts. But don't hit her unless it's absolutely necessary.

Ahh sexism rears its ugly head.
I know women that could kick my ass, and most peoples, fighting back that is. Read my first post in this thread, bottom of page one.

One of my ex's came at me with a bowie knife and I still have the scar 8 years later across my shoulder. It was almost down to the bone, required rehabilitation and surgery. She then tried to stab at my stomach. I broke her wrist to get her to drop the knife (something I felt terrible for, for some stupid reason) and I almost was charged, at 17, with assault causing bodily harm.

Strength of gender is irrelevant. This girl was 5'7" 120lbs max, and at that point I was 6'1", 190lbs and in relatively good shape. If I hadn't reacted aggressively in retaliation, I'd have been dead.

That's why I said "unless it's absolutely necessary". I think everyone has a common sense and when another human attacks him with a sharp tool, it IS necessary. Not retaliating means you might as well start arranging a funeral. For yourself.

 

[fontlas]

Why?

Because it's the embodiment of male weakness.
That's like taking a baby's lolly or stealing an old lady's purse.

If you have any balls at all, you don't behave like that.

I'd rather get hit myself than hit a woman.

You know what? You are totally right on that last point, I'd love to get the shit beat out of me by a women rather than fight back.

 

[bad rider]

Hitting a woman (in my opinion) is never acceptable. Your only real option is to stand there and do nothing. Why do I think this? No real reason, it boils down to it's inherant and I think hitting a woman is unacceptable in 9/10 circumstances. The 1/10 being: at war, in a life threatening circumstance and at risk of serious injury.

There are some injuries you'd rather have than hitting a woman that attacked you?

Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong I would try and stop hurt without hitting. But straight choice scar or hit a woman, I'd take a scar.

Ok, fair enough, it's your choice and no one should be forced to hurt someone. But do you think I should be shunned for hitting a woman over taking a scar?

Depends on the context and how much damage you did. In honesty I'm more inclined to say yes, however if there was clear reason I wouldn't hold it against you, I would however disaprove.

It's pretty hard for a fight to happen and there not be a clear reason for the person defending themself.

I can't quite justify it, but everytime I've heard someone has hit woman I've got a sense of unease and a "What they did was wrong" vibe. However more often than not fights start over really pathetic reasons, so if you did this and it escalated and she got really violent first, I'm more inclined to say you shouldn't have pushed the issue that far. I know that sounds like a *****, but thats how I'm programmed.

 

[Zersy]

They want equality? They got it.

If i made a list of all the most awesome post this would be number 1 !

 

[mike1921]

Hitting a woman (in my opinion) is never acceptable. Your only real option is to stand there and do nothing. Why do I think this? No real reason, it boils down to it's inherant and I think hitting a woman is unacceptable in 9/10 circumstances. The 1/10 being: at war, in a life threatening circumstance and at risk of serious injury.

There are some injuries you'd rather have than hitting a woman that attacked you?

Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong I would try and stop hurt without hitting. But straight choice scar or hit a woman, I'd take a scar.

Ok, fair enough, it's your choice and no one should be forced to hurt someone. But do you think I should be shunned for hitting a woman over taking a scar?

Depends on the context and how much damage you did. In honesty I'm more inclined to say yes, however if there was clear reason I wouldn't hold it against you, I would however disaprove.

It's pretty hard for a fight to happen and there not be a clear reason for the person defending themself.

I can't quite justify it, but everytime I've heard someone has hit woman I've got a sense of unease and a "What they did was wrong" vibe. However more often than not fights start over really pathetic reasons, so if you did this and it escalated and she got really violent first, I'm more inclined to say you shouldn't have pushed the issue that far. I know that sounds like a *****, but thats how I'm programmed.

I'm not asking what started the first hit, whatever caused the first hit is irrelevant. Every fight started because someone threw a punch, I'm not talking about the reason for that punch. The person who threw the first punch is wrong almost every time.