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Aura Guardian

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danpascooch said:
Aura Guardian said:
danpascooch said:
The only time I actually get annoyed by casual gaming is when it affects hardcore gaming negatively, for example, the fact that casual gaming denied hardcore gamers a real Nintendo console for this generation
Huh? Wait...what? The Wii is not a "real" Nintendo system? Wait...was is a fake Nintendo System?

Pretty much
Pretty much what? The Nintendo Wii is a Nintendo Console.
 

kickyourass

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I don't think that there's any distinguishing features that make gamers need to split into these two groups. I mean what makes hard core gamers and casual gamers any differant? I mean if you want to play Farmville go ahead, Gear of ar more your thing? Play until your eyes dry out. Wanna play both, what the hell's stopping you? I love Gears, but I like Wii Bowling just the same.
 

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danpascooch said:
Aura Guardian said:
danpascooch said:
The only time I actually get annoyed by casual gaming is when it affects hardcore gaming negatively, for example, the fact that casual gaming denied hardcore gamers a real Nintendo console for this generation
Huh? Wait...what? The Wii is not a "real" Nintendo system? Wait...was is a fake Nintendo System?

Pretty much
If the Wii isn't an Nintendo Console then what the fuck's Nintendo doing on the side of the console? If you don't like the Wii then don't play it, simple as that.
 

Danpascooch

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Aura Guardian said:
danpascooch said:
Aura Guardian said:
danpascooch said:
The only time I actually get annoyed by casual gaming is when it affects hardcore gaming negatively, for example, the fact that casual gaming denied hardcore gamers a real Nintendo console for this generation
Huh? Wait...what? The Wii is not a "real" Nintendo system? Wait...was is a fake Nintendo System?

Pretty much
Pretty much what? The Nintendo Wii is a Nintendo Console.
Weird, sounds like you already knew the answer to your question.

People give me stupid questions, I give them stupid answers, you knew what I meant
 

Danpascooch

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kickyourass said:
danpascooch said:
Aura Guardian said:
danpascooch said:
The only time I actually get annoyed by casual gaming is when it affects hardcore gaming negatively, for example, the fact that casual gaming denied hardcore gamers a real Nintendo console for this generation
Huh? Wait...what? The Wii is not a "real" Nintendo system? Wait...was is a fake Nintendo System?

Pretty much
If the Wii isn't an Nintendo Console then what the fuck's Nintendo doing on the side of the console? If you don't like the Wii then don't play it, simple as that.
I meant it's not a "real" hardcore gaming console in my opinion, this guy noticed that I didn't clarify that, and asked a stupid question already knowing the answer.

So I gave him a stupid answer
 

NoNameMcgee

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Although I play games that would be considered 'hardcore' I would consider my status as a gamer somewhere between casual and hardcore. I play different types of games, but I don't care much about getting really good at games, I don't spend insane ammount of time on games, and gaming is just one hobby for me... I'm also not interested in games that require a lot of strategy or planning, and I hate high difficulty levels. All of these things are usually associated with casual gamers.

So yeah I think there's nothing wrong with either Casual or Hardcore games or gaming styles, each to their own.
 

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I still wonder if being a hardcore gamer is what you play or how long & hard you play it.

Take my grandmother for example. She has been playing Westward 1-4 (a casual game series) for several years at 4 to 8 hours a day. Is she a hardcore or casual gamer?
 

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What is this "casual" and "hardcore" gamers you speak of? Their are no such things only people trying to make a label for themselves and others they consider inferior.
 

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I think that there's a place for both and that neither one needs to threaten the other; there will always be a market for both. I see the "hardcore" gamers that rail against casual games as the worst type of elitists.
 

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I think their are two kinds of casual gamers, the kind that play casual games and the kind that play hardcore games occasionally. I say I'm a casual gamer because I only play games every other week but I still play what others might consider "hardcore" games (and even though I suck I have fun).

Hardcore gamers are the ones who play non-casual games more than what's healthy and can beat any game with ease.

The only hatred I have are the people who call themselves gamers and doesn't know what a FPS is.
 

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Heart of Darkness said:
Ahem.

"Casual" and "hardcore" gamers do not exist. It is merely a false dichotomy put forth by the old guard of video gamers who are unjustifiably sore at their hobby spreading out to new markets and the assumption that they are being abandoned for the "casual" crowd.

Thank you for your time.

Explanation: "Casual" and "hardcore" do not exist; only games exist. And only gamers exist. A person who plays FarmVille as a hobby is no different than someone who sinks 200+ hours a month into the online component Modern Warfare 2.
Basically what he said. Gamers have been fighting for years to get gaming recognized as a form of entertainment in society and now that it is, don't go whining because more people are starting to get into it.
 

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danpascooch said:
kickyourass said:
danpascooch said:
Aura Guardian said:
danpascooch said:
The only time I actually get annoyed by casual gaming is when it affects hardcore gaming negatively, for example, the fact that casual gaming denied hardcore gamers a real Nintendo console for this generation
Huh? Wait...what? The Wii is not a "real" Nintendo system? Wait...was is a fake Nintendo System?

Pretty much
If the Wii isn't an Nintendo Console then what the fuck's Nintendo doing on the side of the console? If you don't like the Wii then don't play it, simple as that.
I meant it's not a "real" hardcore gaming console in my opinion, this guy noticed that I didn't clarify that, and asked a stupid question already knowing the answer.

So I gave him a stupid answer
How so? It has all the majors, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, the list goes on. That's about as Hardcore as Nintendo games get, and you have plenty of other options RE4, Mad World, several FPSs, and about a dozen fighting games, not including Smash Bros. Add that with the Virtual Console and Backwards Compatibility, and you have nearly ever game from about 2000 back, as well as any Gamecube game you damn well please. So again what's the problem? It seems to me to be the most "Hardcore" Nintendo has ever gotten
 

Danpascooch

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kickyourass said:
danpascooch said:
kickyourass said:
danpascooch said:
Aura Guardian said:
danpascooch said:
The only time I actually get annoyed by casual gaming is when it affects hardcore gaming negatively, for example, the fact that casual gaming denied hardcore gamers a real Nintendo console for this generation
Huh? Wait...what? The Wii is not a "real" Nintendo system? Wait...was is a fake Nintendo System?

Pretty much
If the Wii isn't an Nintendo Console then what the fuck's Nintendo doing on the side of the console? If you don't like the Wii then don't play it, simple as that.
I meant it's not a "real" hardcore gaming console in my opinion, this guy noticed that I didn't clarify that, and asked a stupid question already knowing the answer.

So I gave him a stupid answer
How so? It has all the majors, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, the list goes on. That's about as Hardcore as Nintendo games get, and you have plenty of other options RE4, Mad World, several FPSs, and about a dozen fighting games, not including Smash Bros. Add that with the Virtual Console and Backwards Compatibility, and you have nearly ever game from about 2000 back, as well as any Gamecube game you damn well please. So again what's the problem? It seems to me to be the most "Hardcore" Nintendo has ever gotten
I completely agree, it had plenty of hardcore titles right around launch, which had me playing the Wii for about 4 months.

The problem was after that, they just stopped consistently releasing quality non-casual titles, the few that were released were far apart, and barely any were console exclusive.

Also, I don't really consider backwards-compatibility something that makes a new console a hardcore gaming system, all those gamecube games for me are filed under "gamecube" and not "wii"
 

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I think the whole "casual and hardcore" concept is retarded. A game is a game, stop being so petty.
 

kickyourass

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danpascooch said:
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How so? It has all the majors, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, the list goes on. That's about as Hardcore as Nintendo games get, and you have plenty of other options RE4, Mad World, several FPSs, and about a dozen fighting games, not including Smash Bros. Add that with the Virtual Console and Backwards Compatibility, and you have nearly ever game from about 2000 back, as well as any Gamecube game you damn well please. So again what's the problem? It seems to me to be the most "Hardcore" Nintendo has ever gotten
I completely agree, it had plenty of hardcore titles right around launch, which had me playing the Wii for about 4 months.

The problem was after that, they just stopped consistently releasing quality non-casual titles, the few that were released were far apart, and barely any were console exclusive.

Also, I don't really consider backwards-compatibility something that makes a new console a hardcore gaming system, all those gamecube games for me are filed under "gamecube" and not "wii"
Well since the Wii is the only current generation console with it as a standard feature (as in you don't have to go out of your way to get it), I count it. And my original question is still unanswered, what's the real difference between Hardcore and Casual games, length, difficulty, the amount of blood? Come on tell me already.
 

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kickyourass said:
danpascooch said:
kickyourass said:
How so? It has all the majors, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, the list goes on. That's about as Hardcore as Nintendo games get, and you have plenty of other options RE4, Mad World, several FPSs, and about a dozen fighting games, not including Smash Bros. Add that with the Virtual Console and Backwards Compatibility, and you have nearly ever game from about 2000 back, as well as any Gamecube game you damn well please. So again what's the problem? It seems to me to be the most "Hardcore" Nintendo has ever gotten
I completely agree, it had plenty of hardcore titles right around launch, which had me playing the Wii for about 4 months.

The problem was after that, they just stopped consistently releasing quality non-casual titles, the few that were released were far apart, and barely any were console exclusive.

Also, I don't really consider backwards-compatibility something that makes a new console a hardcore gaming system, all those gamecube games for me are filed under "gamecube" and not "wii"
Well since the Wii is the only current generation console with it as a standard feature (as in you don't have to go out of your way to get it), I count it. And my original question is still unanswered, what's the real difference between Hardcore and Casual games, length, difficulty, the amount of blood? Come on tell me already.
Go play Portal, and then go play Carnival Games for the Wii, and believe me, you'll know the difference.

And I have to be firm that I really don't count backwards compatibility, as I am saying they denied hardcore gamers a NEW hardcore gaming Nintendo platform, and gamecube games aren't new generation, yes it's a merit to the console, but not as a NEW hardcore gaming experience, I still have my gamecube, which I play occasionally.

EDIT: I guess if I had to put one characteristic that I believe mainly separates hardcore and casual gaming (which is hard to do, and probably wrong to generalize like this) I would say that it is NOT the amount of blood, or a first person perspective, or any of that, I would say the main characteristic I look for when determining if a game is hardcore is a story arc. Something you could turn into a book (probably a crappy one, but doable). If the game has a story arc, I more often than not consider it hardcore and not casual. See if you can find a story arc in Wii Sports or Carnival Games, I dare ya!
 

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As long as the two hemispheres don't mingle I am fine with casual gaming. Even though casual games are a less enjoyable and memorable experience, some people just don't want to put forth the effort for serious games. It bothers me when developers try to "mainstream" games to make them more "accessable". That usually translates to a less intricate and less fun game.