Timbydude said:
RebellionXXI said:
I was into Yu-Gi-Oh! for a while during high school, and I bought a God-awful Yu-Gi-Oh! PSX game called Forbidden Memories. I know one might not expect much from an adaptation of a card game, but the problem was the game mechanics weren't even like the actual card game. I thought it might be cool since it had animations for the monster battles, but they were slow, clunky, and flow-breaking.
Bottom line: shit. I went to the store and sold it back to them for used.
Agreed. Yu-Gi-Oh! was amazing. That game was crap. You could randomly fuse monsters with each other...well, you could try at least. If the fusion didn't work out (which was 99% of the time), you just lost both cards. I could get past the first battle and nothing more, because you're given HORRIBLE cards, and the opponent has unstoppable ones.
I'm glad it wasn't just me then. That was the most horrible thing I'd ever played in a long time.
NoblePhilistineFox said:
Lasharus said:
Hrmm, if I have to pick one from my collection, I don't have any games that I really outright HATE.
So, I'll go with Final Fantasy 8. To me, still, the worst of the PS1 Final Fantasy. Annoying gameplay mechanics, a leveling system that actually discouraged leveling, a broken card game (broken in the sense that if you played it a few hours at the start of the game with Card Mod, you could pretty much trivialise the rest of the game) and one of the most strangely written storylines (read: idiotically) of the series, that one's probably my worst PS1 game.
9 was worse, because It had all of those things except it boasted on how stupid it looked and in 7 hours I was already on the last disk.
And the main antagonist guy at the start is a blatent ripoff of sephiroth, look up Kuja and youll see.
Oh, and the main character(Zidane) is annoying, looks stupid(monkey tail, girl face, frilly shirt with no sleaves), COMPLETELY useless in combat(I purposefully kill him in combat and dont heal him, he is even useless as a pincushion) and the exp system is flawed to hell(leveling up only gives you a higher level number, it in no way increases your stats)
the only good thing about it was that Freya and Vivi were cool characters, but I dont consider them FF9 characters, they are thier own thing to me.
Sorry, but no.
First of all, I call BS on 7 hours and you're done, speaking from experience with the game and Final Fantasies in general.
Second, Kuja was actually very much different than Sephiroth. Color scheme, the fact that he wasn't even the main villain until near the end, his change to villainy wasn't that he was artificial and that his mother was an alien, it was because he realized not only was he only a tool that was made to be replaced and to die early, and that everything he was belonged to someone else, and that when he was the villain, he was doing his own thing, not just obeying his mommy (people seem to forget that Sephiroth is only the face of evil for 7, but is actually more of a puppet for it). Another thing is the difference in their sulbtlety. Kuja sets himself up to look like he's only the second in command all the time until he was ready whereas your first experience with Sephiroth is walking out into a hall painted with blood to find the person you thought was the enemy impaled on his own desk with an 8 foot sword. Sure they both didn't wear shirts and have long hair, but if that automatically makes people a ripoff, then you've got a hell of a lot of anime to accuse right now. Because after all, clothing and hair make people the exact same person. Hey, that means that if Kratos ever put on a shirt, he'd be Brentalfloss.
Zidane is actually one of the few characters that I never had to warm up to in an FF game. From the first second he appears I liked him. He's a pirate (which might explain the frills. Oh, by the way, Blackbeard would like to talk to you) and he's actually quite clever, unlike a lot of JRPG protagonists. He knows his way around the world, and he's one of the few none angst leads in the genre. When he finally does angst, there's an actual good reason why, as it reveals that if just a small thing changed in his past, he'd be the one destroying the world now. You mentioned the tail, this is a world full of animal-human creatures, it makes sense. Plus, given his nature, I'd say a monkey was the perfect fit for him. As for uselessness in combat, he was the first time a theif was really actually a good combat choice. Plenty of enemies had items, and he got some great weapons if I remember (you said one of your favorite characters was Freya, and as much as I like her, she's worse). The exp system I will partially agree on, but I played the tactics games so it didn't bother me. You want bad, take either the junction system from 8 or the license board from 12 or Kimahri's sphere grid from 10.
As for the story of the game, 8 is the absolute worse tangle mess with a villain who literally gets no development or even addressment of why they are doing things as well as being able to drop all but around 3 or 4 characters and replace the rest with temporary party members who only fight and have no lines and not change anything (in any other game, that sniper would have been an NPC that doesn't appear in combat but joins your party, as he's only relevant once and he screws up in a manner that if he wasn't a party member, would have ended with his redshirt death) and puts in meaningless flashbacks, where as 9 takes its plot and carefully weaves it around most of the characters, being able to make a short black mage and a stereotypical cannon fodder looking knight have some of the most amazing stories around. The places you visit are insanely memoriable, as well as several of the people you meet. There are several villains in the world, each thinking they're the ones in control. Another big thing about the FF's is their plot twist about the main character's backstory, and as I've pointed out with Zidane, it's a good one, but it also does this frequently with most of the party memebers (going back to 8, it's big twist is one of the most retarded, irrelevant, and useless twists I've ever heard. It's right up there with Bionic Commando's one).
This is a game that didn't get worse the further you headed from the starting city (7), nor a game that took a bit too long to make everyone likeable (13), nor a game with a crappy story (8), nor one which has a lot of potential with different races, political intrigue, and betrayed but fails due to not using the concepts it lays out, going crazy at the end, and has the stupidity to use "Evil Twin" as a plot twist (12), nor has to have the player take a step back in order for them to realize how badly the villain screwed the world over, so much so that some people miss it, but reveal this villain right on the edge of being too late like 8 did, as well as having one awful scene that people get the wrong impression about the whole game from (10). Sure it may have chibi like characters, but so did 7's PS version, and fans seem to think of that game as the BESTEST GAEM EVAR!1!1 This happens to be the game that my brother, who hates playing/watching Final Fantasy games, was actually reluctant to return to me as he said it was the one that he watched me play that he actually found interesting. Sure it's not 6, but I started liking it quicker than 6 and found it to be one of the few games I'd put on par with Legend of the Dragoon.
