You're asked to defend gaming, what game is your reason to defend it

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procyonlotor

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captaincabbage said:
Not to mention Shadow of the colossus is basically a masterpiece.
It certainly is. We'll be looking back at this game after the industry will have taken to artistically more mature areas.
 

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Bioshock.

But really there are a lot of games. I'll just use that one.

It could have easily been made into a book.

The story was deep, intriguing and had twists that I doubt anyone saw coming.
It was full of interesting characters with amazing back-stories set in a rich environment.
i totally called Fontaine! well, not his name specifically, but i knew that the guy saying 'would you kindly?' every other sentenec was just using me and i would eventually have to kill the guy. though my "faith" did waver at the part where the submarine supposedly containing his family exploded... but i held strong, sure there was a reason as to why he kept saying those same 3 words that was more than just a speech habit as usually speech habits aren't so well picked up on in games

yeah, just thought i'd say i totally saw that plot twist coming. however, very frikking good game and every point you made is valid... if it can still be considered modern enough to be used to defend modern gaming.

My problem is that most of my favourite games are previous generation, for the PSP (and thus my opinion is void) or from the very early years of this current generation.

EDIT: thinking on it, that Batman Arkam Asylum was very entertaining (least the demo i played was, and i've heard practically no bad feedback from the actual game) and that came out pretty recently right? yeah, i could use that. Its easy to get into, i'm sure any competent 15 year old would be able to play it with no problems settling into the difficulty curve, it didn't seem to repel non-gamers whilst provided pro-gamers with massive amounts of fun. The gameplay was fluent and amusing. It was very different from the "Brown FPS", so that solves that complaint... though it did suffer a little from being a bit dark/realistic but what do you expect, its batman!?
as for the story... my only knowledge of it is from Yahtzee, that its supposedly written by comic writers... so its not awful plotwise, but likely to be full of corny one-liners/come-backs. But most movies have terrible writing anyway, so quit complaining.
 

teh_Canape

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Tdc2182 said:
teh_Canape said:
Prosecution: A battle of the hair, eh?


Your point is moot.
me: I see you have a strong offensive strategy, but again, I have a solid defense,



but may I say, I have shaved myself a 'fro hat, therefore your point is once again discarded
 

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TestECull said:
thats not even out yet... how do we know what its going to be like? do you trust hype that much?

Plus, you make no reason based upon the game you chose to defend it... wanna know why you can't pick a reason? because the game isn't out yet!

it would only be a worse post if you'd posted a picture of Duke Nukem Forever.

On a slightly related note, i am actually looking forward to this games release. lets hope that in the future, we both would love to defend gaming with this game as our example.
 

MikailCaboose

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Shadow of the Colossus
Muramasa the Demon Blade
Majora's Mask
Phoenix Wright (didn't the escapist even run an article detailing reform to the Japanese legal system BECAUSE of that series?)
Hell, I'd even find some way to shoe-horn in Touhou and use cultural education as a reason! (Well, I did learn a bit about Japanese mythology from this and Muramasa)
 

spartan231490

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all games. I would argue based on the principles of individual freedom and responsibility, not based on a single game.
 

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i had to do a mock debate in gov class about this question "do video games create bad behavior in children?" i was on the "no they don't, that's bullshit" side and i FUCKING RIPPED INTO THE OTHER GUY'S ARGUMENT SO BAD IT HURT!!!!

here's the main problem; parents. a stereotypical overprotective mother (who like most parents of this type will never, ever, admit that they've made at least one bad parenting choice down the line) gets all up arms when she see's her twelve year old son play halo...3. what does she do? she makes up a bogas story created by her worst fears of what could happen to her son's behavior. then, she tells this story to every other stereotypical overprotective mother in the neighborhood, and on the PTO staff at her son's middle school. then no one in the entire community can play halo and everyone is sad.

that's when i, wearing a mjolnr costume i bought online, jump through the window of the school where the stereotypical overprotective mothers are having their video game burnings and i shout "DID YOU KNOW THAT HALO 3 IS RATE M17? THAT MEANS ONLY SOMEONE 17 OR OLDER CAN BUY IT!!! GUESS WHO BOUGHT HALO 3 FOR THEIR 12 YEAR OLD SON? THAT'S RIGHT, YOU DID YOU STEREOTYPICAL OVERPROTECTIVE MOTHERS!!! LOOK AT THE RATINGS BEFORE YOU BUY THE GAME NUM-NUTS!!!"

moral of my argument, if you don't want your 7 year old son pissing people off on halo 3 over xbox live, or your twelve year old son robing a gun store with a knife in GTA4, don't buy those kind of games....retards

or right there was a question

=-=-i would use a combination MAFIA 2 or playboy the game (that's right, you heard me) and dora the explorer adventure to the purple plant and Wii sports. both show the wide variety of games in terms of ratings. -=-=

now i could go on and talk about how video games are an art form, but i am SO FUCKING TIRED, gnite
 

Nukarama

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I present 3 examples:
Portal (games as art)
Team Fortress 2 (best Competitive play)
Rainbow six Vegas 2 (best mix of Fps & TPS)
I rest my case.
 

Xiorell

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Umm... Does "I play them coz I want to and if you don't like it, shut up or we'll take it outside and I'll pull your rib cage out through your asshole, I'm in the middle of a cutscene and can't pause, you cock", count as an argument?
 

BlumiereBleck

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I have no reason to defend it. Sure games are fun but I just can never think of a reason to defend it.
 

DasUberCow

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Pixeljunk Eden and Fallout 3. Eden because it's a very fundamental gaming experience and also very nice to look at and the only successful art-music collaboration in a game which is integrated properly. Fallout 3 because of the sheer experience and the feeling of being part of a world.
 

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mega48man said:
i had to do a mock debate in gov class about this question "do video games create bad behavior in children?" i was on the "no they don't, that's bullshit" side and i FUCKING RIPPED INTO THE OTHER GUY'S ARGUMENT SO BAD IT HURT!!!!

here's the main problem; parents. a stereotypical overprotective mother (who like most parents of this type will never, ever, admit that they've made at least one bad parenting choice down the line) gets all up arms when she see's her twelve year old son play halo...3. what does she do? she makes up a bogas story created by her worst fears of what could happen to her son's behavior. then, she tells this story to every other stereotypical overprotective mother in the neighborhood, and on the PTO staff at her son's middle school. then no one in the entire community can play halo and everyone is sad.

that's when i, wearing a mjolnr costume i bought online, jump through the window of the school where the stereotypical overprotective mothers are having their video game burnings and i shout "DID YOU KNOW THAT HALO 3 IS RATE M17? THAT MEANS ONLY SOMEONE 17 OR OLDER CAN BUY IT!!! GUESS WHO BOUGHT HALO 3 FOR THEIR 12 YEAR OLD SON? THAT'S RIGHT, YOU DID YOU STEREOTYPICAL OVERPROTECTIVE MOTHERS!!! LOOK AT THE RATINGS BEFORE YOU BUY THE GAME NUM-NUTS!!!"

moral of my argument, if you don't want your 7 year old son pissing people off on halo 3 over xbox live, or your twelve year old son robing a gun store with a knife in GTA4, don't buy those kind of games....retards

or right there was a question

=-=-i would use a combination MAFIA 2 or playboy the game (that's right, you heard me) and dora the explorer adventure to the purple plant and Wii sports. both show the wide variety of games in terms of ratings. -=-=

now i could go on and talk about how video games are an art form, but i am SO FUCKING TIRED, gnite
You certainly should have gotten an A for that one
 

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teh_Canape said:
*attention to the jury*
me: Team Fortress 2, it presents an educated level of fun; it's story is weak, yes, but it gives you a reason to do what you're doing; it's character development is none, yet they grow on you almost instantly, and it's designed in such a way that team work IS a requirement, and it's rewarding. And last but not least, it's graphical style is made in such a way that it won't become age quickly and will live on longer than gunmetal gray-brown fps'

prosecutor: yet, it also involves racism and stereotypes, like the black, and I repeat black man who is always drunk and has physical disadvantages over the rest of the white cast, and that is just one example

me:
I love you so much.

Anyways, I would jump behind the Myst series, simply because it got more artistic, grand, and FREAKING EPIC as it went along.
 

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procyonlotor said:
captaincabbage said:
Not to mention Shadow of the colossus is basically a masterpiece.
It certainly is. We'll be looking back at this game after the industry will have taken to artistically more mature areas.
I Completely agree, people are moving on and making "bigger and better" games, but the simple format that worked for Shadow of the Colossus and Ico as well for that matter... it was just perfect, an amazing game, beautiful artistic visuals. A Simple plotline which you can't help but be engrossed in. And if they were bored after going through these points i simply say.

Metal Gear Solid :)