You're asked to defend gaming, what game is your reason to defend it

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SimuLord

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If the charge is "gaming has become stalled and bland", then gaming is guilty of the charges leveled against it.

If the charge is that gaming is merely a mindless diversion with no redeeming value...well, OK, gaming's guilty of that too, and gamers, while they should not be persecuted for having the same need for escapism as the idiots who stare at reality TV or Hollywood movies, should not hold up their hobby as some form of high culture (especially if the best you can do is Metal Gear Solid, Heavy Rain, and Shadow of the Colossus. Roger Ebert is still right.)

It's easier to defend gaming against charges that are absurd, like "murder simulators" (my SimCity 4 region has a crime rate right around zero), brain-dead fluff for idiots (Paradox Interactive's entire body of work would like a word with you, and so would Sid Meier's), and "just a bunch of brown and gray environments" (which would come as news to the King of All Cosmos, just for starters.)
 

Terminate421

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Ill Defend any Halo game really (Maybe not so much on Halo Wars but Ill still put up some defences around it)
 

Dango

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Call of Duty 4.

I don't like it very much, but it proves that games can be more than just mindless violence.
 

imaloony

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It's fun, piss off.

^ That'd be the abridged version of my "defense". I'd probably go into more detail, but that's it in a nutshell.
 

Devil's Due

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"It's fun"

Simple, there's no reason needed to explain much. We should take the non-believer and force them down with the console of their choice and make them play through one game completely!
 
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Rylot said:
Hubilub said:
I'll just pat the person speaking against video games on the back and say "Enjoy your cynicism, friend. I'll just go and have fun with my video games while you continue your ranting"

No need to defend video games when you can enjoy them yourself.
/This

When asked to defend something against people who don't like that thing you aren't going to win. It's a hobby. I enjoy it. The rest of society can shove it.
agreed.

trying to convince an unknowing troll of what they are trolling is extremely difficult..

so i just smile and play my games and enjoy what has been given to me =]

but if i had to try to pick something, it'd be pretty hard..hell its hard for even gamers to define what game is the best, so trying to show someone how games are "good", it'd be mighty hard to ignore our own personal opinion to try and persuade them to maybe something they might find interesting.
 

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If I could only point at one game, I think it'd have to be Okami for the Wii. Challenging, fun for all ages, silly, and beautiful. The story and characters have depth, with a couple mind-bendingly epic crowning moments of awesome.
Plus it's your classic battle of good vs. evil, something that's always fun for the tykes. Sure, there's some "violence", but it's clean, bloodless slaughter of evil demons; and let's be honest, it's not too different from the way Mario massacres everything that stands between himself and saving the day. I think Okami represents some of the very best gaming has to offer.

On the other hand, I could point at games in general and say, "This is clean, healthy, non-damaging fun that people of all ages are enjoying. Are you really going to tell me that you're against having a good time, when it doesn't hurt anybody?" Because, in the end, that's all gamers are really looking for: A good time. And who can argue against that?
 

Eumersian

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I would try to think hard about any games where you actually have to think hard about how to proceed. In other words, it would be impossible to defend the concept of gaming by describing Halo.
 

101194

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Psychonauts, It's entertaining, funny, and a true classic play.

Arcanum, Last RPG I truly enjoyed.
 

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TestECull said:
Think about it for a moment. Obsidian is comprised of the people that made Fallout 1 and 2. Obsidian has been given free reign. What they want to do they do. They're also not under the Activision, EA or Ubisoft umbrellas, so they don't have to worry about that. Bethesda actually allowed Obsidian to listen to their customers and get rid of that GFWL malware.
Never played Fallout 1 or Fallout 2... and whenever i watch a gameplay video, it seems quite different to Fallout 3, so i can't really comment on how good either games were. However, the other facts you presented are points in the games favour.


TestECull said:
Obsidian is NOT going to wreck the very franchise that gave most of them a job in the first place. Absolute worst case scenario is that it's no better than Fallout 3, and hell that alone was pretty damn epic.
Agreed, even if its just another fallout 3 with flashy lights, it will still be worth playing. However, i don't think any game producing companies are attempting to wreck their franchises, so that point was bit redundant.

TestECull said:
Plus, you make no reason based upon the game you chose to defend it
I don't have to. All I have to do is tell 'em to go look up the trailers that have been released so far.
well, i suppose what with the internet being "freedom", you don't have to make a reason. Just think its a bit bold of you to believe you don't have to. and damn unhelpful.

but you didn't tell them to go look up trailers, you just inserted a massive image stating the title of the game. not once until now was it even vaguely suggested that i should to look up trailers. This is getting good though, now you are actually defending your game, rather than just posting images of its title and expecting us to agree.
It just seemed like a lazy post, which is why I quoted against it in the first place, because when this scenario happens, I either get totally ignored and never quoted back (meaning that they don't actually care and will continue to post 1 word/picture posts) or I get a response which provides some reasons to defend/explain why they just posted what they posted (which is whats happening here). I much prefer the latter, because although it proves you were just having a lazy post, at least you can actually provide some discussion when you get asked.

TestECull said:
it would only be a worse post if you'd posted a picture of Duke Nukem Forever.
This makes no sense whatsoever.
pfft, i was just having a bash here at Duke Nukem forever.
The similarities between the 2 games being that Nukem is yet to come out and had a lot of hype also. However, Nukem won't ever come out, so the joke was that your lazy picture post could have been much worse, had you posted a picture that showed the title of "Duke Nukem Forever" ... do you get the joke? sure, its not comedy gold, but what do you expect?

Urgh, i hate explaining Jokes. Its feeble enough without being spelled out... now i'll be lucky to get the reaction "oh i see... that kind of made the ends of my lips upturn for a moment".

EDIT: OMFG, i just read what your username is xD thats a pretty awesome username
 

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Tenkage said:
101194 said:
Psychonauts, It's entertaining, funny, and a true classic play.

Arcanum, Last RPG I truly enjoyed.
What system is Arcanum in?
PC, It's old from 2001 but feels great as you play, It's got good conversion forcing you to pick Magic or Technology, It flows nicely and the soundtrack is simple and soothing, I sometimes put on the soundtrack to go to sleep.
 

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Wii Tennis. It's brought so many families together (whether you like the Wii or not, you cannot admit that is an awesome game). Or Tetris, as it's saved so many from death of boredom on car journeys.
 

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The real question, do we really NEED to defend gaming as an art? Isn't it's status as an artform inherent? Hey, maybe we can't say it's HIGH art like say, painting or literature, due to the fact that gaming doesn't have the same prestige as such, but really, I don't think defending it is even necessary.
 

Jezzascmezza

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Portal because it's sheer genius.
Oblivion because it's so immersive it doesn't deserve to be classified as a game.
And surprisingly Guitar Hero, as it's a game that everyone can enjoy.
 

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HeySeansOnline said:
Okami, I know SOTC is often seen as the end all be all of art, Okami mixes beautiful art, fun gameplay, a great story, and envirorments to explore. Okami takes cultural influences and adds In the gameplay that was perfected by Clover. And its reasonable learning curve will give the Eberts of the world a better chance at immersion, now those who have picked up Halo, only to explode over and over again, will begin to get It. Okami, my favorite game of all time, the pinnacle of what a game should be.
Definitely.
I think Okami also Proved that you don't need a decent voice acting cast to make a decent game. But thats just my opion ^^;

Portal also springs to mind. Its fun,its challenging, got some of the best humor i've come across in a game & unlike most games with guns, you don't just point click and kill.
 

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I've got two (can never just pick one, can I?)

Firstly a little cult favourite of mine. League of Legends is an example of how an incredibly simple premise can be elevated to levels of unexpected awesome. As the old saying goes, easy to learn difficult to master does a good game make. League fits this perfectly, as every battle is similar to every other but a completely different experience due to the number of characters, play styles and builds as well as your team set up in the sense of both players and their characters. And for a game with such little actual plot development its backstory sucked me in deep. Which is impressive considering it consists of character backstories and a short newsletter every so often.

Secondly, the Modern Warfare series. This one is to disprove the cinema nuts who say gaming is nothing more then a bunch of people sitting around shooting Russians/Aliens/whatever the developers country happens not to like at that moment with little or no real plot or character development, and that games lacks the cinematic experience of the movies. MF was one of the frist games I ever genuinely felt part of something more epic than just a shootout in Iraq outside of an MMO style universe. The whole series you're pushed from elaborate and stunning set piece to brutal fight sections to memorable moments. As most brown shooters can barely claim to have more than one or two generic hangers on, the squad members in MW are genuinely wel developed and balanced chracters that are great to fight alongside. I was honestly happy to see Gav 'back' as Ghost and to see how Price's jaded outlook on the war after years in a Russian gulag. Most war movies can only manage the old 'war is bad, look at these young farm boys dying horribly and needlessly' line for emotional stimulation, MW captures so much more.
 

Nikolaz72

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Karousawai said:
I've got two (can never just pick one, can I?)

Firstly a little cult favourite of mine. League of Legends is an example of how an incredibly simple premise can be elevated to levels of unexpected awesome. As the old saying goes, easy to learn difficult to master does a good game make. League fits this perfectly, as every battle is similar to every other but a completely different experience due to the number of characters, play styles and builds as well as your team set up in the sense of both players and their characters. And for a game with such little actual plot development its backstory sucked me in deep. Which is impressive considering it consists of character backstories and a short newsletter every so often.

Secondly, the Modern Warfare series. This one is to disprove the cinema nuts who say gaming is nothing more then a bunch of people sitting around shooting Russians/Aliens/whatever the developers country happens not to like at that moment with little or no real plot or character development, and that games lacks the cinematic experience of the movies. MF was one of the frist games I ever genuinely felt part of something more epic than just a shootout in Iraq outside of an MMO style universe. The whole series you're pushed from elaborate and stunning set piece to brutal fight sections to memorable moments. As most brown shooters can barely claim to have more than one or two generic hangers on, the squad members in MW are genuinely wel developed and balanced chracters that are great to fight alongside. I was honestly happy to see Gav 'back' as Ghost and to see how Price's jaded outlook on the war after years in a Russian gulag. Most war movies can only manage the old 'war is bad, look at these young farm boys dying horribly and needlessly' line for emotional stimulation, MW captures so much more.
Honestly. I think Modern Warfare would do more to hurt the gaming than defend it. tons of People underage playing it. The ability to shoot Americans and Brittish. Mass Civil slaughter in airport. Undending rage online.

I would have stated the good stuff but you managed that just fine. But lets just say that both nongamers/gamers do not always accept the fact that everything is twosided.

Honestly. I'd use Portal. Promotes logical thinking (and is fun at the same time)