Youtube Policy is changing the rules for monetize again! Chaos! PANIC! UPDATED AGAIN!!!!

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In this whole debacle I would also like to add in this.

This new policy rule basically states that advertisers have the right to take away ads from a video they don't want to be associated with.

Isn't this also a basic right granted to businesses and person anyway? SC Johnson has every right to say that they don't want their brand ads on a video that features a Lets Player who talks about liver in squalor all day.

Disney has every right to say they don't want their ads to be on an Angry Joe video because he swears and depicts harsh violence.

St.Judes childrens hospital has every right to deny THEIR ADS bringing in monetary revenue to a guy who makes his living saying hospitals are scams.

While I agree with you 100%, there's one issue I have and people should have.

If Toyota cuts ads on say, Angry Joe, I'd better never see a Toyota commercial on shows like South Park. Also the fact that rap videos will never be demonetized shows how backwards this is. And this is the stuff we should be calling YouTube out for.

Youtube isn't deciding what ads goes on what video. The advertisers are choosing. Nothing about it is backwards. All youtube is doing is just notifying people that their videos didn't get "chosen" for ads based on content. You would call out the Toyota in the case you've given not youtube. Toyota chose to cut their ad on Angry Joes videos and continue running them on south park, not youtube.

That's what I said.

Your telling people to call out youtube for things advertisers are doing. Youtube hasn't done anything to be called out for.

I meant to call out the advertisers. Sorry, been fighting a cold.

Oh my bad. While I personally don't see a reason a reason to call them out for having ads pulled in one place but leaving them in another, I feel like it's their choice to me. I could see how people would want to.

Because hypocrisy.

"Oh, that Angry Joe is hardly the sort of thing we want to associate our fine product with. We'll just keep it on rap videos and South Park, instead."

Hypocrites. If you can put it on South Park, you can put it anywhere. And so, they're dicks. We knew this, of course, but this is evidence of unfair treatment. Nothing Angry Joe has ever done has made him more offensive than the other two venues, hence the calling out.

It's true that while someone like Angry Joe may have not done anything to be any worse than south park, it's still the advertisers choice where their ads go. Advertising has never been a fair, equality focused thing. Just because they run an ad in one place doesn't mean that they HAVE to run an ad in another. The advertisers are paying, not the advertisee, it's their decision to make. I'm not denying the hypocrisy in it though, just so your aware. I just don't see a reason to call anyone out.

The hypocrisy IS the reason, though, because if the cited reason is that 'We don't want to associate this with that', then it's either a lie or they're being stupid. And without the stupid lie, there IS no reason to do that.

Right, I'm agreeing that it's hypocritical of them. Calling them out on it though, is like saying you think they should be forced into advertising somewhere, and that is what I don't agree with. You may not mean that by calling them out on it, but it's how it comes off. Because what it seems like is people calling them out they expect them to continue advertising out of force, then I don't see a reason to call out youtube, or the advertisers. And if that's not what you want, and shame on the advertisers is the message here, it's just not worth it.

 

[FalloutJack]

In this whole debacle I would also like to add in this.

This new policy rule basically states that advertisers have the right to take away ads from a video they don't want to be associated with.

Isn't this also a basic right granted to businesses and person anyway? SC Johnson has every right to say that they don't want their brand ads on a video that features a Lets Player who talks about liver in squalor all day.

Disney has every right to say they don't want their ads to be on an Angry Joe video because he swears and depicts harsh violence.

St.Judes childrens hospital has every right to deny THEIR ADS bringing in monetary revenue to a guy who makes his living saying hospitals are scams.

While I agree with you 100%, there's one issue I have and people should have.

If Toyota cuts ads on say, Angry Joe, I'd better never see a Toyota commercial on shows like South Park. Also the fact that rap videos will never be demonetized shows how backwards this is. And this is the stuff we should be calling YouTube out for.

Youtube isn't deciding what ads goes on what video. The advertisers are choosing. Nothing about it is backwards. All youtube is doing is just notifying people that their videos didn't get "chosen" for ads based on content. You would call out the Toyota in the case you've given not youtube. Toyota chose to cut their ad on Angry Joes videos and continue running them on south park, not youtube.

That's what I said.

Your telling people to call out youtube for things advertisers are doing. Youtube hasn't done anything to be called out for.

I meant to call out the advertisers. Sorry, been fighting a cold.

Oh my bad. While I personally don't see a reason a reason to call them out for having ads pulled in one place but leaving them in another, I feel like it's their choice to me. I could see how people would want to.

Because hypocrisy.

"Oh, that Angry Joe is hardly the sort of thing we want to associate our fine product with. We'll just keep it on rap videos and South Park, instead."

Hypocrites. If you can put it on South Park, you can put it anywhere. And so, they're dicks. We knew this, of course, but this is evidence of unfair treatment. Nothing Angry Joe has ever done has made him more offensive than the other two venues, hence the calling out.

It's true that while someone like Angry Joe may have not done anything to be any worse than south park, it's still the advertisers choice where their ads go. Advertising has never been a fair, equality focused thing. Just because they run an ad in one place doesn't mean that they HAVE to run an ad in another. The advertisers are paying, not the advertisee, it's their decision to make. I'm not denying the hypocrisy in it though, just so your aware. I just don't see a reason to call anyone out.

The hypocrisy IS the reason, though, because if the cited reason is that 'We don't want to associate this with that', then it's either a lie or they're being stupid. And without the stupid lie, there IS no reason to do that.

Right, I'm agreeing that it's hypocritical of them. Calling them out on it though, is like saying you think they should be forced into advertising somewhere, and that is what I don't agree with. You may not mean that by calling them out on it, but it's how it comes off. Because what it seems like is people calling them out they expect them to continue advertising out of force, then I don't see a reason to call out youtube, or the advertisers. And if that's not what you want, and shame on the advertisers is the message here, it's just not worth it.

Ah, but this is a case of it having been there already and then retracted for no actual reason. Normally, when you do things like that, there's a real reason. But in this case, there was no harm at all, no need to even act or draw attention to it. All of this is stuff and nonsense, an utterly pointless act to have even insigated at all.

 

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Ah, but this is a case of it having been there already and then retracted for no actual reason. Normally, when you do things like that, there's a real reason.

And that's that grey area. :/

 

[FalloutJack]

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Ah, but this is a case of it having been there already and then retracted for no actual reason. Normally, when you do things like that, there's a real reason.

And that's that grey area. :/

Well, I don't find it to be gray at all, but from there that's just our opinions clashing, so we can leave it there.

 

[Marik2]

So has youtube dropped the idea or is it still going?