The OP should also note that Jim Sterling has made a video, and I think TotalBiscuit has, as well. So, Great Britain speaks, I guess.
Yeah but Jim didn't say much new. Just his usual righteous indignation and bark-bark speeches. Haven't seen TB's video, but I can guess its a slightly better phrased and researched version of JimmyBoy's vid.FalloutJack said:The OP should also note that Jim Sterling has made a video, and I think TotalBiscuit has, as well. So, Great Britain speaks, I guess.
What he said DID make sense, of course Youtube will never have the manpower or the competence to do the job themselves either. For some reason, Google somehow can't afford quality workmanship.Silentpony said:Yeah but Jim didn't say much new. Just his usual righteous indignation and bark-bark speeches. Haven't seen TB's video, but I can guess its a slightly better phrased and researched version of JimmyBoy's vid.FalloutJack said:The OP should also note that Jim Sterling has made a video, and I think TotalBiscuit has, as well. So, Great Britain speaks, I guess.
I guess? I mean not that I guess, I agree. He does make sense. But I always felt when it came to the YouTube business model Jim always is a little too...simplistic? Maybe minimizing is a better phrase. Like I get that he thinks he's the boss and his viewers are the customers, but he's not and they're not. YouTube, meaning Google, is the boss, and the customers are the ones who buy ad space. Because they're actually paying for a service, whereas you and I watching Jim are just two dudes watching YouTube videos.FalloutJack said:SNIP
Opinions on how Jim is seen as handling situations aside, I'll address this because I KNOW Youtube has no PR Department. Complaints - of which there are many - are never really addressed. Updates change things that did not need to be changed, tack on features to a buggy system that weren't asked for or work right, and then of course you have this stuff...which probably doesn't even serve companies competently either, if I had to say it.Silentpony said:But i do agree that Youtube IS handling this very poorly. Its feels like they don't have a PR department at all. Someone to smack a few heads and say "No, I will write the press release and it'll answer all the questiosn!"
So what qualifies as a real job?Kina said:If you rely solely on your Youtube income to survive, then you've got bigger things to worry about than your "content haven". Perhaps getting a real job would be right up your alley.
Well, we've codified already what qualifies as a LICENSED doctor. You got a plan for further liscencing carpentry?Kina said:Do you not feel that undermines and misleads people by claiming a title or asking others to refer to you as such? I could tell someone to take some aspirin and boom guess what, I'm a doctor. Sure, I may not have spent 8 years in med school, but I'm a doctor.
Sit. Down.
Don't mind Grandpa. They dont understand that times have changed and most of the world is digital. What they assume are "real jobs" are becoming rare now and in todays standards, a jobs a job. If you get paid for it, its a job.Smithnikov said:So what qualifies as a real job?Kina said:If you rely solely on your Youtube income to survive, then you've got bigger things to worry about than your "content haven". Perhaps getting a real job would be right up your alley.
I need to know in case I don't have a "real" one, I mean...
Also, is there a reason Kina seems to think we're in a schoolroom with him and that he has authority to tell us to sit? I'm just wondering where that delusion of his came from.Parasondox said:Don't mind Grandpa. They dont understand that times have changed and most of the world is digital. What they assume are "real jobs" are becoming rare now and in todays standards, a jobs a job. If you get paid for it, its a job.Smithnikov said:So what qualifies as a real job?Kina said:If you rely solely on your Youtube income to survive, then you've got bigger things to worry about than your "content haven". Perhaps getting a real job would be right up your alley.
I need to know in case I don't have a "real" one, I mean...
Maybe they assume creativity is not a real job. Gotta tell my writers and director friends. Hell, anyone in media should listen to, Kina on their wise wisdom of a real job.
I am sitting down but not comfortable. My ass hurts. Damn train.The Lunatic said:Everyone sitting comfortably?
Well, anyway.
I kinda get it to some extent. Youtube is a business. It can't just give away free money. If you videos don't make money, youtube is not in any business to give it to your freely.
I won't say that making videos for Youtube isn't a "Real job" but, Youtube is not your employer just because you upload videos there, they are not entitled to give you money, and if they do, it is a Partnership, that relies upon you bringing in a profit for the the site.
As such, It's understandable that Youtube and it's advertising partners may decide they no longer want to monetize certain videos and such.
I think the reasons are kinda trivial myself, but, I'm not an advertiser. So, as much as I disagree, it's a position of ignorance.
Ultimately, advertising is dying. It's been dying for years. And it'll go out and take websites, content creates and a whole bunch of other stuff with it.
Relying upon it, is kinda foolish, and if you're in this industry, I think you have to realise it's time to change how you're getting revenue.
Well, somebody over in Wild West posted this...Smithnikov said:Also, is there a reason Kina seems to think we're in a schoolroom with him and that he has authority to tell us to sit? I'm just wondering where that delusion of his came from.Parasondox said:Don't mind Grandpa. They dont understand that times have changed and most of the world is digital. What they assume are "real jobs" are becoming rare now and in todays standards, a jobs a job. If you get paid for it, its a job.Smithnikov said:So what qualifies as a real job?Kina said:If you rely solely on your Youtube income to survive, then you've got bigger things to worry about than your "content haven". Perhaps getting a real job would be right up your alley.
I need to know in case I don't have a "real" one, I mean...
Maybe they assume creativity is not a real job. Gotta tell my writers and director friends. Hell, anyone in media should listen to, Kina on their wise wisdom of a real job.
Bad flashbacks about the school bully using him as a sofa. Truth be told, I'll bet he's a ringer for the other side, paid off to make the rubes at Youtube look good.Smithnikov said:Snip
Yes, hulu has ads. But you can pay an extra couple of bucks to make sure they don't pop up.Parasondox said:I am sitting down but not comfortable. My ass hurts. Damn train.The Lunatic said:Everyone sitting comfortably?
Well, anyway.
I kinda get it to some extent. Youtube is a business. It can't just give away free money. If you videos don't make money, youtube is not in any business to give it to your freely.
I won't say that making videos for Youtube isn't a "Real job" but, Youtube is not your employer just because you upload videos there, they are not entitled to give you money, and if they do, it is a Partnership, that relies upon you bringing in a profit for the the site.
As such, It's understandable that Youtube and it's advertising partners may decide they no longer want to monetize certain videos and such.
I think the reasons are kinda trivial myself, but, I'm not an advertiser. So, as much as I disagree, it's a position of ignorance.
Ultimately, advertising is dying. It's been dying for years. And it'll go out and take websites, content creates and a whole bunch of other stuff with it.
Relying upon it, is kinda foolish, and if you're in this industry, I think you have to realise it's time to change how you're getting revenue.
Anywho, i get your point about advertising. Its dying but it has itself to blame. People being over burdened with ads if you click one link has caused major annoyance, which then leads to people using ad... am i allowed to say it? Clickbait, malware, virus, scams, and that new creepy way of suggesting you things that you clicked on once but you now see on all sites ypu go on. Holy fuck too many of them. Yes websites depend on them but they need to take back control.
Sidenote: Is it true Hulu has ads? So you pay for a monthly service and you have advertisement during programming? Have it before and after, thats fine. Not during.
*shrug* This day and age, I wouldn't discount it.FalloutJack said:Bad flashbacks about the school bully using him as a sofa. Truth be told, I'll bet he's a ringer for the other side, paid off to make the rubes at Youtube look good.Smithnikov said:Snip
Just do what I've been doing and ignore them.Smithnikov said:*shrug* This day and age, I wouldn't discount it.FalloutJack said:Bad flashbacks about the school bully using him as a sofa. Truth be told, I'll bet he's a ringer for the other side, paid off to make the rubes at Youtube look good.Smithnikov said:Snip
I'd rather lampshade the matter. He's trying to look big and it's not working.RaikuFA said:Just do what I've been doing and ignore them.Smithnikov said:*shrug* This day and age, I wouldn't discount it.FalloutJack said:Bad flashbacks about the school bully using him as a sofa. Truth be told, I'll bet he's a ringer for the other side, paid off to make the rubes at Youtube look good.Smithnikov said:Snip
Yeah I've wanted to say some stuff just to get a few laughs but I didn't want to get in trouble.FalloutJack said:I'd rather lampshade the matter. He's trying to look big and it's not working.RaikuFA said:Just do what I've been doing and ignore them.Smithnikov said:*shrug* This day and age, I wouldn't discount it.FalloutJack said:Bad flashbacks about the school bully using him as a sofa. Truth be told, I'll bet he's a ringer for the other side, paid off to make the rubes at Youtube look good.Smithnikov said:Snip
It's easy. From now on, everyone should stand on their desks like in Dead Poets Society when he demands we sit. Let us all pay homage to the late Robin Williams, I say. In fact, let's bring a bunch of desks to Google Headquarters and do it there! That'll show 'em!RaikuFA said:Yeah I've wanted to say some stuff just to get a few laughs but I didn't want to get in trouble.FalloutJack said:I'd rather lampshade the matter. He's trying to look big and it's not working.RaikuFA said:Just do what I've been doing and ignore them.Smithnikov said:*shrug* This day and age, I wouldn't discount it.FalloutJack said:Bad flashbacks about the school bully using him as a sofa. Truth be told, I'll bet he's a ringer for the other side, paid off to make the rubes at Youtube look good.Smithnikov said:Snip
Because it's the equivalent of trying to check every drop of water for disease, five billion minutes of video are uploaded every hour trying to check them all manually is next to impossible.FalloutJack said:What he said DID make sense, of course Youtube will never have the manpower or the competence to do the job themselves either. For some reason, Google somehow can't afford quality workmanship.Silentpony said:Yeah but Jim didn't say much new. Just his usual righteous indignation and bark-bark speeches. Haven't seen TB's video, but I can guess its a slightly better phrased and researched version of JimmyBoy's vid.FalloutJack said:The OP should also note that Jim Sterling has made a video, and I think TotalBiscuit has, as well. So, Great Britain speaks, I guess.