Zero Punctuation: Brutal Legend
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The way the RTS seems to function in this title reminds me a lot of Sacrifice, or maybe the mashup RTS elements in Giants: Citizen Kabuto. Since those were both bloody wonderful games, I would love to play this one, but I can't since I don't own consoles and I'm not about to buy one for one bloody game.
No PC release = unhappy Gildan.
No PC release = unhappy Gildan.
There's a difference between being a fan and a fanboy. A fan of Yahtzee's holds onto their opinion but appreciates what he does - deliver fresh, well-written and funny content every single week, which is more than most American sitcoms can claim. A fanboy clings to his every word be it spoken very quickly into a headset microphone or stated somewhat quietly in person. For example, I enjoyed Mass Effect very much but I still smiled at Yahtzee's commentary on the wordiness of the game. Yahtzee isn't going to convince me to buy a game I hadn't considered buying - unless I hadn't heard of it, vis a vis Trine - nor is he going to convince me to stop liking a game he dislikes, such as the aforementioned Mass Effect.Highlandheadbanger said:
Yahtzee himself has little patience for sycophants. From Mailbag Showdown [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/37-Mailbag-Showdown]:
"Do you really need somebody in authority giving you a simple Yay or Nay before you buy anything? Why don't you roll over so they can stomp on the other side of your face?"
Wow, lots of brutal legend hate here.
I greatly enjoyed brutal legend, and it's really about the whole package. It's easy to nitpick at this game because the gameplay is definitely weak in places and the main quest could've stood some serious beefing up, but everything for me came together to make something fun and original.
The RTS sections do start to grow on you after awhile, skimpy as they are.
I greatly enjoyed brutal legend, and it's really about the whole package. It's easy to nitpick at this game because the gameplay is definitely weak in places and the main quest could've stood some serious beefing up, but everything for me came together to make something fun and original.
The RTS sections do start to grow on you after awhile, skimpy as they are.
That didn't sound so much like a umlaut as you saying 'brutal' while doing your drag queen impression.
I'm having a good time playing Brütal Legend, and I'd say it's like Psychonauts: flawed, but charming and funny. It's unfortunate that the demo didn't feature the RTS-bit of the game since that would've been more sincere.
I do agree with most of the review still. Finding the motor forges is easy since they're all surrounded by red flowers visible even from a distance, but the story and guitar solo-stones really should've been marked on the map or introduced some other way. Then again, there was a great deal of that in Psychonauts too, so if it didn't bother you then it really shouldn't bother you now.
If you want some excellent acting, an original and funny script (for a game), unique visuals and decent action, sure, get it. It's flawed without question, but still enough of an experience to be worth the asking price.
I'm having a good time playing Brütal Legend, and I'd say it's like Psychonauts: flawed, but charming and funny. It's unfortunate that the demo didn't feature the RTS-bit of the game since that would've been more sincere.
I do agree with most of the review still. Finding the motor forges is easy since they're all surrounded by red flowers visible even from a distance, but the story and guitar solo-stones really should've been marked on the map or introduced some other way. Then again, there was a great deal of that in Psychonauts too, so if it didn't bother you then it really shouldn't bother you now.
If you want some excellent acting, an original and funny script (for a game), unique visuals and decent action, sure, get it. It's flawed without question, but still enough of an experience to be worth the asking price.
Thank God man, I thought I was the only one who saw the development of a Yahtzee-worshiping cult. I hope it doesn't take a degree in Sociology or Religious History to see the Protestant Reformation parallel of it all.Jaqen Hghar said:
It's one of my favorite games of all time, of course, thats along with games like Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect, and the Total War series*, so I'm pretty much an infidel to the Yahtzee-faithful.
*I recognize there hasn't been any offical dogma official denouncing the Total War series or the RTS genre in general, but if you've seen some of the forum chatter since Halo Wars and Darkest of Days, some elements of the RTS community fear that we may end up as the next scapegoat to be burned at the stake by these Gaming Zealots. If that day comes, I shall join you in Ironheade, as fighting a war against Trolls and Gaming Zealots is a lost cause.
...I'm not sure if this counts as observance, or lack of it...?swaki said:
A disappointing review for sure. I'll still pick up the game eventually as I'd like to encourage Schafer to continue making games, and I'm sure there's enough of a good game buried in there to overlook the RTS stuff, but still.
The RTS aspect could have worked if they gave you the ability to pause the action and organize your troops, for the single player at least.
I also don't think there is anything wrong with sandbox games just as there isn't anything wrong with linear games, so long as the former gives you plenty to do and a fairly easy means to get around.
I personally like the game, however, I am not blind to the issues of it. I guess you really have to be a metal head like myself to get the most out of it. For what it's worth though this game did make me feel a bit worse about never buying Psychonauts, though I did try to get it on Steam but the damn thing won't work.
I agree though the demo is a bit deceptive.
I also don't think there is anything wrong with sandbox games just as there isn't anything wrong with linear games, so long as the former gives you plenty to do and a fairly easy means to get around.
I personally like the game, however, I am not blind to the issues of it. I guess you really have to be a metal head like myself to get the most out of it. For what it's worth though this game did make me feel a bit worse about never buying Psychonauts, though I did try to get it on Steam but the damn thing won't work.
I agree though the demo is a bit deceptive.
Of course not. But the amount of people thinking "Oh, he doesn't like it. Guess I won't buy it then" is quite big. When you should at least read around some more. There are also several things in the video which was plain silly. Cannot find Motor Forges? Seriously? If you cannot see the top of them surrounded by the red flowers you are told grows near things you can raise... then you just don't read the manual or in-game help enough. The thing about RTS is also quite funny. When he asks his "friend" if it is good RTS... the whole "amass a big army and throw them at the enemy" is the way you are supposed to play it. And because that is what you do in the RTS segments, this is not a good game?Akalabeth said:
The only thing I think is wrong is calling these videos proper reviews. 'cause they are more a rant about every little thing which irks Mr. Croshaw about the game. Even when he talks about games he love he manages to get the "this sucks" vibe out there. Hey, I love these videos as much as everyone else here. I just think it is wrong calling them reviews. Rants is more like it.
My thoughts exactly.Highlandheadbanger said:
EDIT: Posted this before I saw your comment quoting me
But yeah, I love a lot of the games Mr. Croshaw has stomped all over. But then again, I really dislike a lot of the games he dislikes
And I love the Theif series, which is one of the few games he really likes.RTS is awesome, and I should really get into Total War again.
And while the RTS in Brutal Legend isn't so in depth as proper RTS games, it sure is fun! IRONHEADE!
BL didn't have enough Lemmy parts. It was like, 'Yeah man I'm fuckin awesome look at me heal' and then he has about 2 more lines in the entire game. Ozzy was the same screaming profanities at Jack. ( I will not call him Eddie, because it is fecking Jack Black)
The combos with your teammates in the RTS is pretty funky like combining with the Sound Guy to become invisible, or with the other NPC's for different abilities.
Also the combat lacked alot of combos for jack himself, I think I counted around 6 different combos including mash X, Mashing Square, holding X, Holding Square each with their own piss weak damage that couldn't be upgraded to anything more than a accidental wet fart, likewise the weapons were only like 8 choices and 4 weapons for the Deuce.
The combos with your teammates in the RTS is pretty funky like combining with the Sound Guy to become invisible, or with the other NPC's for different abilities.
Also the combat lacked alot of combos for jack himself, I think I counted around 6 different combos including mash X, Mashing Square, holding X, Holding Square each with their own piss weak damage that couldn't be upgraded to anything more than a accidental wet fart, likewise the weapons were only like 8 choices and 4 weapons for the Deuce.