Zero Punctuation: Call of Duty: Ghosts

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Muspelheim

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Arslan Aladeen said:
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Zachary Amaranth said:
I'm not saying you have to be a paranoid racist to like Call of Duty games (BLOPS 2 was quite fun, even), but I do think it's marketed to the 'brown people are scary' crowd. Or, I think that's the subtext to a lot of the jingoism we're getting these days.

In short, I think America is sympathetic to the Americans this game is marketed to, at least in sufficient numbers.
Don't people generally buy CoD for the multiplayer, though?

How is CoD marketed, anyway? It would be probably interesting to compare it's marketing in the different countries.
As far as I know, Call Of Duty just has famous actors dressed up as various normal people having big battles. They don't show any gameplay or anything. The tagline I think is 'there's a soldier in all of us.'
Ah, now I remember seeing one of those. If I were a proper soldier myself, I'd be rather irritated by their idea of how my job works.

-"Yes, well, standard procedure is to run off alone in different directions and shoot the bad guys who are doing the same. When we kill six enemies or more, squad command allows us to use our gear."

JaceArveduin said:
Hey, rocket's from space? Now where have I heard that from before...
Oh yeah! Of course, technically it's a gun, but I'm guessing it's still the better super weapon.
The Modern Warfare series have had considerably less fantastic music, on the other hand.

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Zipa

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Infinity ward couldn't write a good story if their lives depended on it now.


That said I learned of the existence of the Jam audiobook so that is a bonus.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
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Seriousally south america invades the US? I call BS!
You know how zombies were originally an analogue for black people? Well, maybe you don't, but early zombies, before they were a commentary on commercialism or republicans or whatever else the writer wants to call mindless, they were an analgoe for black people. There was this fear that black people were going to take us by storm in the US, and America would be ruined by having....Slightly higher melanin in the skin? I don't know.

I suspect this plays off the fear that 'Mexicans,' because pretty much anyone to the South of the US is called that it seems, are invading us and destroying America. I mean, you'd have to ignore the numbers, where the number of illegals is no longer increasing (and may actually be decreasing, depending on the source), but people seem happy to do it. If you believe Fox News, it's a miracle they haven't completely overrun the South and Southwest. And, because Fox wouldn't be Fox without race baiting, all those imaginary brown people seem to have some sinister plan to destroy America from within.

Brown people from our south attacking us with our own infrastructure sounds like someone played perfectly into that paranoid mess.

Basically, zombies became a thing in America based on the premise that black people are scary.

MMS would probably be a thing, period, but I'm sure cashing in on the notion that brown people are scary isn't hurting anyone's wallet.
...Uh, I think the whole "zombies were originally an analogue for black people" thing had to do with the fact that, well, the concept for a "zombie" CAME from black people, specifically with Haiti Voodoo. As for it becoming the shorthand for "brown-aphobia" for the USA, the whole "zombie" thing didn't really grab the American zeitgeist by the balls until "Night of the Living Dead", which most assuredly NOT playing off the "brown-aphobia" you're talking about.

Admittedly, "brown-aphobia" definitely is a part of American life, if nowhere near as extensively as before the Civil Rights Movement. It's the phobia that made "Birth of A Nation" the biggest cinematic blockbuster for generations, why there can't be any major black characters in fiction UNLESS the story is about making their "blackness" a story-overriding character trait (blaxploitation, their struggle for equality in the Civil War or Civil Rights Movement, etc.), and the reason more black criminals are given the death-penalty in spite of more white criminals being tried and convicted for death-penalty worthy crimes.

I still don't think that the COD having "brown" antagonists makes them racist, it's just that they think "brown" countries are suddenly more "exotic" to white audiences than North America and Western Europe - notice that every other "spunkgargleweewee" shooter has you fighting either Asians (specifically North Koreans, who have pretty much gotten the entire world to hate it's guts), or Eastern-Europeans (neo-Commie or Mafiya Russians obviously, but also Serbians, Armenians, Germans (seemingly indistinguishable from NON-Nazi Germans)). These are groups that aren't "brown" by any stretch of the imagination, but are still pretty damn foreign or alien to "First World" - and by extension, somehow able to pass as shooting gallery targets without needing to give any real "context" to the big, bloody brawl.

As for the whole "this is marketed to conservatives because they like guns and hate brown people", bear in mind right-wing paranoia isn't just limited to racism: just look at "Rainbow 6: Patriots", which riled up a shitstorm for having the decidedly white, yet also decidedly LIBERAL "Patriots" movement, basically as a paramilitary offshoot of Occupy Wall Street. That one was cutting a fine line between examining how badly militant fanaticism can corrupt an otherwise benign cause, and outright catering to the Neo-Conservative Doomsday Bunker players.

That said, I think the reason they made a unified South America stealing our doomsday laser technology the main bad guys this time around isn't COMPLETELY catering to the right-wing nutjob audience. I think they simply wanted to be more "creative" (i.e., they were completely out of semi-plausible ideas), and only figured ramping up the explosions would make a better game (instead of remembering COD 4's semi-serious look into how the War on Terror was shaping up at the time, or even the Black Ops miniseries halfhearted attempts to mix up the morality structure between America and it's enemies).

Of course, none of this shit really matters to "real" COD-players: they just hop on for the multiplayer experience of legalized deathmatches where they can blow the ever-loving shit out of their family, friends and strangers, all while indulging in all the zesty racist, sexist, and homophobic profanities denied discourse in real life!
 

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*sigh*...Here we go again...

I don't know what to say. A lot of reviewers say it's bad, but I haven't played it yet so i'll reserve my final judgement until then.
 

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SILENTrampancy said:
Well, who the hell buys CoD for singleplayer anymore?

Please, stand up and say your name, so that we may oggle at the oddity that is you.
See, that's not much of an argument.

It's the Gears of War situation again. Had Yahtzee said that CODGhosts' single player was amazing, nobody would have said that they don't care about the single player campaign.
 

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Hasn't there been nuclear war yet in the Call of Duty series? Why not just have an old fashioned resource war as the setup for a game? The United States can still have the killbots and high tech stuff, but lack of resources to maintain the high tech gear makes them very valuable but only as an ace up the sleeve when the situation is dire. It also justifies people we normally wouldn't think of as threats being antagonists, they're the strongest simply because they were the least f-ed up by the previous war. Further, with the simple goal of getting the resources to keep their own civilization going, it would set up moral ambiguity which would come across as more genuine.

A damn shame the dog was just another toy to throw away. Would have been fun if he was a core aspect of the game. I might have forced myself to play it while pretending the dog is the son of Hewie from Haunting Ground carrying on his father's secret war against alchemy :p
 

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I don't think we should be criticizing the developers for the prevalence of burly white dudes - the money they saved on alternate character models is clearly what allows for the staggering degree of innovation the series is known for.
 

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On the topic of "America is OP" (Even if MW 1-3 was more British SAS and America as a way to fill in the gaps) if anyone wants to read a story where America is a Villain, try Seven Ancient Wonders by Matthew Reilly. Sure it's got mystical junk and technology that doesn't make much sense, but it's no worse than COD and has a very Indiana Jones/A-Team feel to the whole thing.
 

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Well, CoD is slowly collapsing it sounds like. Like watching an old person fall over, it looks like slow motion, but it still hurts the person all the same.


As for JAM...that was the most confusing thing I've watched in a while. Is it a book of free flowing consciousness coming from Yahtzee? If that's the case I'm sure many high readers/listeners will come up with some rather profound interpretations.
 

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Well I did enjoy the mogworld audio book.

You might think they would take risks knowing that everybody will just buy their game anyway. Well except for the battlefield fans.
 

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erttheking said:
Wait a minute WHAT!? Orbital missile platforms? Did Activision miss the part where those were outlawed by the Geneva Convention? That's a freaking war crime waiting to happen right there! And who exactly is the US going to nuke? This all coming from a freaking American!
So the basic detailed I gleamed from the inter webs is that the middle east oil supply is dwindling and caused a major economy collapse in most of the developed world. while at the same time large oil deposits were found in he South America and at some point the "federation" forms and begins a hostile take over of South America and then works its way up. the Odin satellite are not nukes they are rods the deal massive kinetic damage but don't leave any nasty radiation. I remember an article about in in the escapist even. I don't know why the satellites were there, but at the start of the game there was no war ongoing and there was some sort of treaty in place that was broken by the villains when they took the satellites and used them on the US and used them as an opening blow, and at the en of the game the villain have built there own orbital satellites and are actively using them on US forces when they are taken away and used against the federation. Something about how he portrayed the situation in the video seemed off so I went and looked up the plot and that what I came away with

anyway not nukes, general politics have taken a massive change, and I think the satellites were what was keeping the war from starting up in the first place.
 

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I'm going to say it: If that was a sample of the audio book, it turned me away from a purchase. Mostly from the stilted voices that were indistinguishable from each other.
 

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Was anyone under the impression that Yahtzee would like this game? Did anyone think that it would actually be any different from the last one?

No, probably not. But like sports games they seem to make the exact same game year after year and still sell out. I don't understand it, but apparently there is an entire demographic that wants to buy the exact same game year after year (with betterz grafix).

P.S. Just for accuracy's sake the US actually does have a giant space laser.
 

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Flunk said:
Was anyone under the impression that Yahtzee would like this game? Did anyone think that it would actually be any different from the last one?

No, probably not. But like sports games they seem to make the exact same game year after year and still sell out. I don't understand it, but apparently there is an entire demographic that wants to buy the exact same game year after year (with betterz grafix).

P.S. Just for accuracy's sake the US actually does have a giant space laser.
Wait what? We do? Since when? What's its name?

...and do you actually mean "giant space laser that can be used to attack things on the ground, like Dracula in his moon base", or "giant space laser that sends beams of light out to distant planets to analyze the general temperature of the dust"? Because the latter sounds like the more realistic thing to have happened.
 

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While this spectacularly boring franchise still makes a squajillion dollars a year, its review scores and award nominations are at least in slow decline. Hopefully that's the first step. Probably not though.
 

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Anyone else unable to shake the feeling the Spec Ops: The Line may have warned us about the orbital space cannon bit?

Seriously, someone please acknowledge this, it's driving me crazy.