Zero Punctuation: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
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The thing is, though, God of War's gameplay--and the creators even admitted to this--was actually inspired by Lament of Innocence, another CastleVania game, and I feel like this game sort of just improves on the gameplay LoI offered. Only with quick-time events. God awful quick-time events. And repetitive combat. This was supposed to be a good 3-D CastleVania game... I don't think we'll ever get one, though this one's at least breaking mediocrity...Pirate Yoda Online said:
Fuckin' Christ Konami, were you THAT scared of innovating Castlevania that you had to rip off God of War so entirely? Ugh. I'm sick of those 2D handheld games because they're all the EXACT SAME GAME but this isn't any better. Lament of Innocence wasn't too bad, a step in a decent direction.
Great review as always, Yahtzee, though I'll shamelessly admit I actually liked Castlevania 64.
Great review as always, Yahtzee, though I'll shamelessly admit I actually liked Castlevania 64.
I actually bought LoS before this review. About a few weeks actually. And to be honest, I didn't mind it much. It was a more or less, leave it or take it to me. Like it or not. The camera was annoying. It's never fun to be slapped in the back of the head by something jumping into camera sight from way the hell out of sight. The other thing that always made me raise a brow to it was, Gabriel looked great, everyone else looked kind of funky. Well him and like the Lords. They looked like they got worked on, everyone else looked like they were just thrown in to take up space.
Let me see, oh right. The scenery was really nice. It had a way of making you feel like a small person in a big mean world. The downside to that is, the camera sucks harder then a french whore with ten dollars. The combat was okay, everything was easy to get. The difficulty was what you would expect from a Castlevania game. So all in all I have to agree with Yahtzee on this one. But I think if you need something to kill time while you wait on a better game, get it. It is pretty long.
Let me see, oh right. The scenery was really nice. It had a way of making you feel like a small person in a big mean world. The downside to that is, the camera sucks harder then a french whore with ten dollars. The combat was okay, everything was easy to get. The difficulty was what you would expect from a Castlevania game. So all in all I have to agree with Yahtzee on this one. But I think if you need something to kill time while you wait on a better game, get it. It is pretty long.
It?s obvious that Yahtzee has never played any of the Castlevania games except this ?one?.
Otherwise he wouldn?t have bashed it the way he did. It stuck with some of the concepts that makes Castlevania, castlevania and that is the use of magic and secondary weaponry. It is hard to take the original series from 2D and 3D modeling into this new high tech digital art styles being used now- a-days. They did it this way because it was EASIER. Yes I know they ripped styles from two other fabulous series.
I have played Shadow of the colossus. Hell pre-ordered both it and Okami (which Yahtzee has yet to review Ps2 version) before Yahtzee EVER reviewed it. I have also played God of war which too is an amazing series. This Castlevania game was to give konami a fresh start. I partially blame Kojima, but anyways, because last year?s release of Castlevania was complete and utter ass/ shit.
And we all know how ?most? Wii games turn out. Konami needed this new beginning. Castlevania is an old series it is literally up there with Mario and Zelda because of the year. So, instead of listening to Yahtzee ?all the time? go out and play the game for yourself , I personally enjoyed it and the puzzles are fun.
All I am saying is stop THE BANDWAGON. I used to follow G4tech tv/ X-play. This Is how I knew/saw if I was going to like a game or not, by looking at the gameplay and seeing how it was treated. This is how I knew to BUY: Okami, Shadow of the colossus, and Assassin Creed for example (plus i am a BIG fan of Prince of Persia ^^). G4 now is Bleh, they used to be Cool, now they suck in my opinion.
My boyfriend (and yes I am A GIRL) too hated Resident Evil 5, but he only played like what 10-20 mins of it before he said he hated it. One of my friends bought the game, he played it with one of my friends and decided to give it another shot, yes he actually liked it! I still hated it and love Resident Evil 1, 2 & 4 were my best choices, but that is me. Same with Devil may cry 4, he actually likes it too. I don?t like it, as much as DMC?s 1 & 3 seeing as these were my favorite.
I like Yahtzee, he?s hilarious his reviews do in fact make for great shitz and giggles. But I just wish people would give games a try unless from a true GUT standpoint you know the game is awful. For instance, Halo 3=BAD. I hate halo. I Loved the first one that too me WAS/IS the best Halo out there. Anyways Looking forward to Dues Ex 3 and Bullestorm <3 Woohoo.
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hope no one takes this huge ass comment offensively as it wasn't meant to be just advice/suggestion is all.
Otherwise he wouldn?t have bashed it the way he did. It stuck with some of the concepts that makes Castlevania, castlevania and that is the use of magic and secondary weaponry. It is hard to take the original series from 2D and 3D modeling into this new high tech digital art styles being used now- a-days. They did it this way because it was EASIER. Yes I know they ripped styles from two other fabulous series.
I have played Shadow of the colossus. Hell pre-ordered both it and Okami (which Yahtzee has yet to review Ps2 version) before Yahtzee EVER reviewed it. I have also played God of war which too is an amazing series. This Castlevania game was to give konami a fresh start. I partially blame Kojima, but anyways, because last year?s release of Castlevania was complete and utter ass/ shit.
And we all know how ?most? Wii games turn out. Konami needed this new beginning. Castlevania is an old series it is literally up there with Mario and Zelda because of the year. So, instead of listening to Yahtzee ?all the time? go out and play the game for yourself , I personally enjoyed it and the puzzles are fun.
All I am saying is stop THE BANDWAGON. I used to follow G4tech tv/ X-play. This Is how I knew/saw if I was going to like a game or not, by looking at the gameplay and seeing how it was treated. This is how I knew to BUY: Okami, Shadow of the colossus, and Assassin Creed for example (plus i am a BIG fan of Prince of Persia ^^). G4 now is Bleh, they used to be Cool, now they suck in my opinion.
My boyfriend (and yes I am A GIRL) too hated Resident Evil 5, but he only played like what 10-20 mins of it before he said he hated it. One of my friends bought the game, he played it with one of my friends and decided to give it another shot, yes he actually liked it! I still hated it and love Resident Evil 1, 2 & 4 were my best choices, but that is me. Same with Devil may cry 4, he actually likes it too. I don?t like it, as much as DMC?s 1 & 3 seeing as these were my favorite.
I like Yahtzee, he?s hilarious his reviews do in fact make for great shitz and giggles. But I just wish people would give games a try unless from a true GUT standpoint you know the game is awful. For instance, Halo 3=BAD. I hate halo. I Loved the first one that too me WAS/IS the best Halo out there. Anyways Looking forward to Dues Ex 3 and Bullestorm <3 Woohoo.
Bye~ I
hope no one takes this huge ass comment offensively as it wasn't meant to be just advice/suggestion is all.
Yeah, I'm still waiting for another game like Super Castlevania 4. That is my basis for a perfect Castlevania game...minimacker said:
Anyway, this certainly isn't a bad game. I'm having a hell of a lot of fun with it. I will agree with Yahtzee that there is little of the Castlevania feel to this game, but it's still really fun.
Wait, what? How can you blame a producer? Who had nothing to do with last year's Castlevania. Unless you aren't talking about Hideo Kojima, in which case I apologize.Hi klaus said:
Exactly what I wanted to say! Thank you for saying it! He made a stamp to joke about how many companies keep making and selling games that are pure knockoffs of other famous games, but still fails at being at least good at copying. The sad part is that they keep doing it, and thus, keep earning the stamp in the face.samwd1 said:
As much as I love handhelds, why stop there? Why not also make console 2D Castlevania games? Afterall, if titles like LittleBigPlanet and New Super Mario Bros. Wii proved anything, it is that 2D platformers are far from obsolete.JustaGigolo said:
It's kind of sad to bear witness to the fate of the Castlevania franchise. While Symphony of the Night isn't up to everyone's tastes, it still at least deserves respect for proving that 2D platformers had a place in the world during a time when everyone and their dog was jumping onto the 3D bandwagon. But instead of getting the message, especially after the dismal failure of both N64 games, Konami just decided to keep shoving 3D Castlevania games down console gamers throats no matter how poorly the market responded to them. I suppose trying one more time wasn't a bad idea, but you would think they would have learned by now that the 3D games aren't the way to go for the series.
Oh well, at least the music is still fantastic:
^ This. I like it a lot, actually. Clearly originality is deeply overrated. I've been advocating for a God of War Germanic Edition forever. bahahaMr.Pandah said:
Yeah, just saw about that in a post above. Didn't know it was inspired by Lament of Innocence. Never played it, though. Now I'm curious and I wanna play it. But that actually worsens what this Castlevania did and the stamp it deserved. First, although God of War was based on LoI gameplay, I also read that at least he brought something new to it. Something new AND GOOD to the GAME. I think it was the quick time events, and I know they are a pain when not used right, but I like how they're thrown in GoW and even Yahtzee said in his review of GoW3 that in this game the QTEs make sense and complete the gameplay, instead of just being thrown in like all the games that try to copy it. Second, with the former sentence I defend the point of the stamp: GoW was a copy with something more and that improved the gameplay copied. The games that deserve the "Like God of War But..." stamp don't copy from the inspiration of GoW. They base their entire gameplay on GoW, completely forgetting its own inspirations and improvements. And to top it off, they do it poorly, causing frustration and boredom on gamers. So, they ARE "Like God of War, But" they suck at trying to be it. If Castlevania was truly the inspiration to GoW, then this Castlevania developers had no reasons for not exploring what LoI did RIGHT and putting that in their game!Turbo_ski said:
That's what I conclude after knowing GoW's gameplay was based on another game. Now I have to play it and find out how much of it was copied.
Don't worry bro, I'm actually at your side, this game is awesome from start to finish and as I said before, it feels more like Super Castlevania IV with combos and 3D (and less awesome music) than anything else, even GoW since the combat feels distinct yet familiar...Sonic Doctor said:I looks like I will have to break out the word "seriously" again, like I mentioned in my thread about words I am addicted to using.Misho- said:Which is a lie of courseSonic Doctor said:
Seriously, I meant everything I said about Castlevania: Lords of Shadow.
But I feel people are going for the easy cheap shot and calling it a knockoff and stuff. Ok go for it, I still found it... Fun, what according to Mafia's review, Games are supposed to be.
Wow, what a feeble mind you have. To think that it only took one person's opinion to sway you. Bravo.Azure Knight-Zeo said: