I don't think Yahtzee is wrong about anything that he says about the game. But despite the fact that the characters are shallow and the plot is forgetable, the game is fun to play. And that's what matters to me the most. Sometimes I'm in the mood for mindless slaughter from behind chest-high walls and no game does that better that Gears 3.
Zero Punctuation: Gears of War 3
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One thing I remember clearly from GOW2 is the battle music, which played in EVERY SINGLE BATTLE. I even might remember the stages correctly and in order: city, forest, cave, worm, zombie stronghold, locust stronghold, and the finale in the city with the "shoot lazers at the dinosaur thing" at the end that posed no challenge.
It seems to be an extremely unpopular opinion, but I really enjoy the plot of Gears Of War and I wanted to know what happened. I also did in fact buy Gears 3 for the campaign.
Seems we are a rare breed my friend. I thought the story line was great. The voice acting was something that stuck with me the whole way through aswell. I suspect the reason there are very few Gears supporters on here right now is because they are on their consoles playing it right now and HAVING FUN.JackandTom said:
Yeah, I recall a major character dying in a scene that lasted for fucking ever with them turning up the sorrowful music to eleven and having him perform a completely unnecessary sacrifice (yeah, his gun was empty, how about asking one of the other dudes to shoot the tank while he drives away with the car???). That would've had more impact had it been sudden, a quick end to the constant smug quipping from the main characters who seem to live comfortably in the knowledge that the plot shields will keep them alive no matter how dangerous the situation is. A good dash of anyone-can-die would have livened it up a lot.
And then I say "no thank you, Gears". The series never interested me past the creature designs - that I'm pretty sure a crazy JRPG could rival. (....Or really, any genre)
I'm happy for the hard reset mention. I just played the demo and that first set of fights just screams "we love our work and put as much effort as possible into making it as much fun as it can be."
Plus its all about using the environment and has actual secrets, remember those?
Plus its all about using the environment and has actual secrets, remember those?
I would say I'm glad it's over but we know they'll be making another one since it's selling still. My best friend enjoys them and I've played the first two with him on co-op and Yahtzee is right, the story from both is not worth remembering. First game set off giant bombs to kill Locust, second game completely nullifies the first by saying the bombs did nothing. And the second doesn't even have that much focus going for it, it's all just there to set up the third game's new enemy.
As to the gameplay, I don't see what Gears of War has added. It created artificial looking rooms with lots of neat rows of cover that look completely out of place and it makes you stick to them. Why is that considered a gameplay innovation? What was wrong with the old systems of having to just move behind something while you reload or dodge a rocket or wait for a break in the enemy's firing pattern, or using crouch and lean buttons to make use of cover? This 'sticky' system seems to just railroad gamers into using paths the developers lay out by making the right way forward obvious by the path of chest high walls.
As to the gameplay, I don't see what Gears of War has added. It created artificial looking rooms with lots of neat rows of cover that look completely out of place and it makes you stick to them. Why is that considered a gameplay innovation? What was wrong with the old systems of having to just move behind something while you reload or dodge a rocket or wait for a break in the enemy's firing pattern, or using crouch and lean buttons to make use of cover? This 'sticky' system seems to just railroad gamers into using paths the developers lay out by making the right way forward obvious by the path of chest high walls.
Also I completely agree with this. It will be his undoing in the end, people will just get sick of it. I know its funny for some people watching people get upset because a game which they spent big money on gets trashed but its just getting old. I remember reading the thread where he smashed WH40K and there were many unhappy faces that night.sravankb said:
To conclude. Its just not funny anymore.
Edit* IM NOT DONE DAMNIT!
If other reviewers said things that he said they would be hung drawn and quatered or their opinions barely even noticed.
My thrilling conclusion to Ben Croshaw and his constant negativity... Fuck off.
But, I'm a girl and have a sensibly proportioned neck and I don't miss the plot and character. But I guess it helps that I remember what little plot there is from the previous games and can still follow the story. Ah well, Gears of War is still vicariously fun with it's chainsaw bayonet vasectomies.
I've never actually played trough a GoW game, nor have I ever owned one. I have a friend that loves it, played one of them coop with him once. All i remember is a hospital of some sort.
Nope, but Skyrim and Battlefield 3 will! Wait, did that read "one of"? Damn...Babitz said:
He said the gameplay hasn't changed from GoW2, and he already went over the gameplay in his GoW2 review. What more do you want him to say about it?believer258 said:
rollerfox88 said:
1)
Did you watch the "previously on gears of war" video you can watch in the main menu? That sums it up nicely.
2)
Because there is no military or government left. It's small . Who would court-Marshall him? Hoffman?
3)
The Carmine brothers have appeared in all gears games so far as a kind of recurring joke. Do you remember the charity event to determine whether Carmine lived or died?
4)
Since when has the main evil baddy ever done the dirty work to eliminate the main protagonist until the end?
5)
This one got me too. No idea. Maybe they ran out of it getting to the sub?
6)
Agreed, unnecessary but a very cool cut scene regardless. There aren't many games where you can play as the main character for the 2 games previous, to have him killed off mid way through the 3rd.
I agree with you, not needed, but an awesome scene.
7)
No idea, but I guess they needed a reason for Prescott to come find them with the data disk. A game about random activities on a boat would have been much less fun.
8)
Yup. But remember, people are stupid. Not everyone knows what a neutron bomb is.
9)
The government doesn't know. Adam says this himself in a cut scene when Baird asks him.
Also remember, humans covered the whole surface of Sera at the time of E-day. Someone would have noticed frigging corpsers popping up everywhere.
10)
Looks like it. No idea why Myrrah was so tough though. Maybe a convenient oversight so Marcus could stab her.
11)
Pretty much the whole of Sera was nuked by the hammer of dawn to stop the locust using the humans factories etc against them. The copter came from the ship that Cole and Baird found as reinforcements.
12)
The queen wanted him to modify the machine so it wouldn't hurt the locust, but it would kill the humans. They didn't manage to make it that way. So there's no real confliction there.
Did you watch the "previously on gears of war" video you can watch in the main menu? That sums it up nicely.
2)
Because there is no military or government left. It's small . Who would court-Marshall him? Hoffman?
3)
The Carmine brothers have appeared in all gears games so far as a kind of recurring joke. Do you remember the charity event to determine whether Carmine lived or died?
4)
Since when has the main evil baddy ever done the dirty work to eliminate the main protagonist until the end?
5)
This one got me too. No idea. Maybe they ran out of it getting to the sub?
6)
Agreed, unnecessary but a very cool cut scene regardless. There aren't many games where you can play as the main character for the 2 games previous, to have him killed off mid way through the 3rd.
I agree with you, not needed, but an awesome scene.
7)
No idea, but I guess they needed a reason for Prescott to come find them with the data disk. A game about random activities on a boat would have been much less fun.
8)
Yup. But remember, people are stupid. Not everyone knows what a neutron bomb is.
9)
The government doesn't know. Adam says this himself in a cut scene when Baird asks him.
Also remember, humans covered the whole surface of Sera at the time of E-day. Someone would have noticed frigging corpsers popping up everywhere.
10)
Looks like it. No idea why Myrrah was so tough though. Maybe a convenient oversight so Marcus could stab her.
11)
Pretty much the whole of Sera was nuked by the hammer of dawn to stop the locust using the humans factories etc against them. The copter came from the ship that Cole and Baird found as reinforcements.
12)
The queen wanted him to modify the machine so it wouldn't hurt the locust, but it would kill the humans. They didn't manage to make it that way. So there's no real confliction there.
Hope that helped.
I admit he never used the word retro so I shouldn't have used quotes what he said was that it was like painkiller which is the main example of the no regenerating health/ no iron sights/ no story style of shooter that he seems to love without question, and as someone who loves painkiller it annoys me when people compare it to hard reset which is absolutely horrible to the point where the main menu annoyed meRagnaThePig said: