It's still the same gameplay, and platforming in Infamous 1 was hell. Did Cole lose his superglue-covered limbs?jmarquiso said:
Zero Punctuation: Infamous 2
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and the one for Painkiller was probably a bit more positive than this, but I reckon this one comes third after those two.Anchupom said:
Edit: Correction. Infamous 2 comes fourth after Orange Box, Painkiller and Saint's Row 2
The first one is unbelievably pretty fun, and this is coming from someone who hated the demo.Mojo_22 said:
OT: I am shocked, shocked that Yahtzee had such few criticisms for Infamous 2, but when the last game you played was Duke Nukem Forever, playing in the toilet from Saw would probably be more fun, I assume.
Yathzee didn't really celebrate his hundredth episode when it came out so far as to actually mention it a couple episodes later and what did he do then? Just play that intro song in full. Weeee....Anaklusmos said:
If he doesn't want to make a fuss than I don't mind him not making a fuss personally online people get kind of annoying always celebrating a number.
IMO they worked a lot more on the Good side and a lot less on the Bad side. I just don't think there's a reason to be evil. At all. What, taking over the city and being reckless? Well, then you should've given more destructive powers. The Good side yields a lot more practical powers, like Ice Launch, and...well, powerful powers, like Bolt Stream. Also, Nix is the most annoying character I've seen in a while, what a whining *****. I'll give the Evil ending credit though, it made me cry, and I don't cry easily.
Madness!? THIS!!!!! IS!!!!.....The escapistmagazine.com, where gamers from every corner of the globe unite under this one HTML site and watch our ever loving Yahtzee review games.....hehehe thought I was gonna say Sparta.Furioso said:
I'm surprised myself he liked it. However I still need to Play Just Cause 2 first
There is some damn brilliance in predeterming a player's karma BEFORE the game begins. First you wouldn't have to integrate some sort of karma system for the game; second you can just concentrate on really dicking around a sandbox instead; third you don't have to think of the karmic duality of missions too difficultly; fourth it would be a good exploration of a character's psyche, like two legitimate responses to one event that end in absolute good or absolute evil, a real statement on the flippantcy of the human mind. It's like if Mass Effect had a preemptive button that changes moral attitude, and if you choose good people are like "Oh Commander Shepherd you're so great" or "Commander Shephard haha what a sucker I can con it", and if you choose bad people go "Commander Shephard you are such a bastard" or "Oh Commander Shepherd we can make a partnership in my KITTEN NEUTERING BUSINESS." The plot would change dramatically--shying away from the overall neutrality of the plots we have now--and show the player the contrast between being a good guy or a bad guy, like Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde. For example the good side would have Shepherd getting its dossiers and information from planetary militaries, and the bad side would have Shepherd getting its dossiers from pirates and mob bosses and neo-nazis.
Anyway, damn. I predicted Yahtzee's big problem would be UGC. I even screamed out UGC! when he stated there was one problem. Ah well.
Anyway, damn. I predicted Yahtzee's big problem would be UGC. I even screamed out UGC! when he stated there was one problem. Ah well.
I have to say, the idea of letting us have the choice at the beginning of the game is actually quite good. If you are not going to be able to re-write every scene to count for five or so playing style (Evil, on the path to evil, neutral, on the path to good, Good) so the story flows smoothly then this is the very way to go about it. Give the player the choice at the start and then make the cut-screens designed so you get a good feeling of character depth during the whole of the game and not these bland, pointless, 'hero' and 'anti-hero' templates.
It is always good to see that I the only one sick with good and evil moral systems not based on the circumstances they are in. Cause face it, when you make a moral choice in real life it isn't based on 'will I be good or evil?' but a wide range of variables at that point in time. Not just 'am I a dick' but also if you are wanting to impress someone who is near by, if you are planning for a bigger betrayal due to revenge, have a irrational hatred or fear of something... I can go on and on with reasons people do good things for evil reasons. Hell, even if you are just having a bad day affects if you will be good and evil more then what we see in said games.
Never forget: The most evil acts in history are those justified that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
In games life Infamous having those sort of thought patterns leave you getting screwed out of all the good power up and other stuff in the end because you simply can not play this game like a real, rational, human being. You have to either be a saint or a dick all the way through and that is unbelievable, to say the very least.
Sure, maybe I am asking for too much like game developers to make the story part of their game five times just to make it all fit together with a more smoother feel... but if your not willing to do that, make the player choose good and evil at the start and write the whole story with more depths and feeling then some bland 'can swing either way' gray moral character.
It is always good to see that I the only one sick with good and evil moral systems not based on the circumstances they are in. Cause face it, when you make a moral choice in real life it isn't based on 'will I be good or evil?' but a wide range of variables at that point in time. Not just 'am I a dick' but also if you are wanting to impress someone who is near by, if you are planning for a bigger betrayal due to revenge, have a irrational hatred or fear of something... I can go on and on with reasons people do good things for evil reasons. Hell, even if you are just having a bad day affects if you will be good and evil more then what we see in said games.
Never forget: The most evil acts in history are those justified that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
In games life Infamous having those sort of thought patterns leave you getting screwed out of all the good power up and other stuff in the end because you simply can not play this game like a real, rational, human being. You have to either be a saint or a dick all the way through and that is unbelievable, to say the very least.
Sure, maybe I am asking for too much like game developers to make the story part of their game five times just to make it all fit together with a more smoother feel... but if your not willing to do that, make the player choose good and evil at the start and write the whole story with more depths and feeling then some bland 'can swing either way' gray moral character.
I'll contest you on the system not making sense in this one. At it's weirdest, yes, it's a bit shallow. At it's best, which has more examples, you see a viable option (for the comic book themed superpowered individuals in question) that stays well within the boundaries of selfish, self-indulgent, self-glorification (evil), and the for-the-betterment-of-the-many selflessness that makes him a hero to the people, often risking losing something himself (hero). Consider the biggest decisions of both games. They follow this line to the letter. Does he save the lone woman he loves, or save a number of doctors instead? Does he steal medicine and break through the heavily defended enemy line to get the support of the people, or does he stage an attack that he ends, making him necessary in preventing further deaths? Does he sacrifice himself and others to save millions, or does he protect his own life at the cost of many other deaths? The morality is at least consistently directed, and does usually make sense in that light.
Nice to see the emotional endings getting some love, though. One, a tear-bringing affair with an emotional sendoff, the other a stolid, somber affair that is in itself rather heartbreaking, making the result a lonelier world. Well done, Sucker Punch, Well Done.
Nice to see the emotional endings getting some love, though. One, a tear-bringing affair with an emotional sendoff, the other a stolid, somber affair that is in itself rather heartbreaking, making the result a lonelier world. Well done, Sucker Punch, Well Done.
That was honestly one of the biggest problems on this great game. In order to prevent exploiting the UGC for experience they made it so you barely gain any exp at all. I also don't know about you, but I found most of the UGC missions far too tedious for the measly 50-90 experience gained. Well, except the "Cole - God of Thunder" ones - infinite health, no knockdown, rocket to the face? what? Psh... let's not forget infinite energy and a bunch of respawning dudes. Even then you don't get experience from any of the stunts or kills you make so it's pointless. According to the Sucker Punch forums it's based on how much time you spend in there up to the current cap of between 100-300... couldn't get confirmation. So yeah, UGC... no incentive to do them short of mind numbing boredom once you're done with the campaign and the trophies. So my final take on that... good idea, decent tools, poor execution. It's like Co-op in Dungeon Siege 3.jmarquiso said:
Oh, and on an entirely different note; Cole's voice and design is much better in this game than the first game.
Y'know, I recall on this very site one of the reviewers was talking about how much fun they were having being evil, but then said "the story's...meh..." and I instantly thought
"But the story goes to SHIT if you're infamous!" Seriously on my 2nd playthrough when I was evil it felt like I was playing a lame parody of the good story. but when I thought about it, I couldn't really put my finger on why the story was so much worse. But now that good ol' Yahtzee's worded my thoughts in a much more organized and coherent way (with a posh british accent to boot) I got lots of newfound insight to walk away with, it was also fucking funny. My new favourite review! They say the best stories are the ones that tell you what you already know.
"But the story goes to SHIT if you're infamous!" Seriously on my 2nd playthrough when I was evil it felt like I was playing a lame parody of the good story. but when I thought about it, I couldn't really put my finger on why the story was so much worse. But now that good ol' Yahtzee's worded my thoughts in a much more organized and coherent way (with a posh british accent to boot) I got lots of newfound insight to walk away with, it was also fucking funny. My new favourite review! They say the best stories are the ones that tell you what you already know.