Zero Punctuation: Monster Hunter Tri

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Mindmaker

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Aylaine said:
It looks like some people just got served. ;D [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/7635-Extra-Punctuation-Monster-Hunter-Tri]

I figured it was because the game didn't go through for him so he gave up on it. Looks like he did play more then he originally stated though. All in all, fun read. ;F
If by fun read you mean, contradicting himself, reapeating himself, speading some more false information and pointing out some more irrelevant facts, then yes.
 

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Aylaine said:
It looks like some people just got served. ;D [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/7635-Extra-Punctuation-Monster-Hunter-Tri]

I figured it was because the game didn't go through for him so he gave up on it. Looks like he did play more then he originally stated though. All in all, fun read. ;F
It seems he's not big into the item/resource management, or simply not into these kinds of games at all.
 

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solidstatemind said:
If you don't pay attention enough/seen enough ZP to have noticed that he has said that he absolutely does not review MP, shouldn't that be chalked up to your ignorance? Same goes for the bit about not playing it long enough. Jesus: he covered that like only 2 episodes ago.
It takes 2-4 hours based on how much you play for it to get good.

He has admitted that he does fuck all but play the game he will be reviewing.

He had reasons to only play FFXIII for only 5 hours (though not very good ones).

He has a fucking week to play. (three days? I think he mentioned it somewhere in one of his articles)

you're telling me that he has so little time that he can only fit a couple hours in a few days, despite his entire job revolving around playing games?

Trust me, by no means am a a fanboy for MH, but I have played it, and it is really fun
 

deckai

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At thats the point, we all make/have decisions/opinions based on our own experiences.

Most of the people in that thread assume that Yahtzees view on the game is their own opinion... they don't have any fundemental arguments other than his review. The "fans" try to convince the "non-fans" that not everything what Yahtzee said has to be taken serious.

But i don't want to start that discussion again .. it's like running in circles :(
 

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Lol Extra Punctuation Rocks.

Now i've played MH since it came out and own MH,MHF2,MH2NG,MHU, and of Course Tri.

But everything yahtzee says is completely true. More then once after running the game for ten plus hours (and killing a f**kton of monsters), i find i need this one item for my weapon (lets go with Lagicrus plate) so i proceed to kill and capture twelve Lagi. No dice, i go once more for good measure...no dice. At this point i go f**k it and save quit and play port royale 2 for four hours.

Even massive fans of the game and series get 'f**k this' moments, so its not like yahtzee is pointing out anything new.

And if i'm not mistaken he not once mentioned the fact that it has no lock-on, so thank christ because that is the reason every website gives for negative reviews.
 

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llagrok said:
What is it about Japanese games being criticized that gets the fans so riled up? Yahtzee tears apart for just/unjust flaws every week. As soon as it's final androgynous teenfantasy or asian robot farmer XII, we'll see 500 hits in the comments two days after.
It's the fact he's being disingenuous? He could have complained about any game with such low quality and I would have been posting.

Please actually read our comments before becoming another one of the annoying "What's with all the bitchy fans I haven't read who clearly must be whining about Yahtzee?" one post in the thread wonders.
 

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gof22 said:
I was not aware that people were mad at Yahtzee because of the review. I can understand why people are mad about it but at the same time why only depend on one review? Why depend on any reviews? In my opinion I say people should rent the game instead to decide if they like it or not.
I think people are mad because Yahtzee is discouraging people from playing this great game based on some lies. The people who take the review seriously are missing out on something great.

And I know his reviews aren't really serious, so calling them lies aren't much of an insult. I mean, he only played for 2 hours. That's like playing Mario Kart wii for one lap on Luigi Circuit and using that to judge the whole game.
 

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lol the sea moster is the last boss!
Actually it isn't. Ther will be a "plot twist" and you will gasp when you find out who the real "evil overlord of the seas" is.

Not to mention that there are even bigger/more threatening monster in multi player.
 

BlackSnow

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Pretty much all the review said to me was that if your like yahtzee you won't like the game.

I on the other hand enjoyed my time with monster hunter. I put in 70 hours beat all the monsters and now I'm done as far as I'm concerned. Personally i believe if you can squeeze that many hours of enjoyment out of a game it was good enough.

Now my criticism of yahtzee's review/criticism is that it seems he got confused as to which part of the game is the actual game. If you listen to his review again you can hear him talking about MOga forest, the little sandbox area they let you mess around in, as if it is the real game and the quests are just quests like in an mmo, not important. So perhaps it was not technically his fault he never finished the tutorial because he didn't know any better.

Oh and you can get to a real monster fight in 30minutes as well as beat the story mission in about 30hours if you know what your doing. Yahtzee needs to make use of game resourses like Faqs <.<
 

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nicholaxxx said:
solidstatemind said:
If you don't pay attention enough/seen enough ZP to have noticed that he has said that he absolutely does not review MP, shouldn't that be chalked up to your ignorance? Same goes for the bit about not playing it long enough. Jesus: he covered that like only 2 episodes ago.
It takes 2-4 hours based on how much you play for it to get good.

He has admitted that he does fuck all but play the game he will be reviewing.

He had reasons to only play FFXIII for only 5 hours (though not very good ones).

He has a fucking week to play. (three days? I think he mentioned it somewhere in one of his articles)

you're telling me that he has so little time that he can only fit a couple hours in a few days, despite his entire job revolving around playing games?

Trust me, by no means am a a fanboy for MH, but I have played it, and it is really fun
That's a valid argument, but at the same time, what I'm getting at is that Yahtzee is up front about the fact that he doesn't play games for that long... so you should know that is going to come up. That's really the only point I'm trying to make: Yahtzee does his Yahtzee schtick, and when you watch the video, you should take that into account.

You know: Caveat Emptor. I don't necessarily agree with all of the... well, policies for lack of a better word- that he employs, but I'm aware of them. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect all the viewers to be aware of them as well, rather than whining on and on about how he's done their favorite game wrong simply by behaving as he's always behaved. (And funny, they didn't complain about it when Yahtzee did that to a game they really weren't interested in...)

That's it; that's all. Not saying those people don't have a right to like the game, or a right to disagree with Yahtzee disliking a game, but for them to say- in essence- "Yahtzee, you should spend more time on this game that you spend on other games... (the unspoken portion being 'because it's a game I like!)" is rather solopsistic. That's the only thing I was trying to point out, and I apologize to anyone who felt as if I were attacking their right to hold a differing opinion from Mr. Croshaw-- I'll take the responsibility for that, because it means I didn't explain myself well.
 

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NickCooley said:
Eventidal said:
NickCooley said:
A Typical Zero Punctuation Thread:

1) Average fan watches ZP, is entertained and gathers another opinion about the game being reviewed.

2) More devoted Yahtzee fan's denounce the game in the discussion thread, swearing by the review.

3) Fan's of the game reply in thread stating how Yahtzee Missed the Point/Didn't play the game properly/didn't play the game right/isn't real reviewer/shouldn't be taken seriously. (Delete where appropriate)

4) Groups 2 and 3 begin to argue the toss.

I've yet to see a single ZP thread that didn't follow this to some degree or another. It doesn't really bother me that much I suppose. Except for the ridiculous "isn't a real reviewer" argument. I'd say ZP is as valid as any other review because all a review is, when it boils down to it, is an over glorified opinion of the subject matter and swearing by Yahtzee's reviews is no better (or worse) than swearing by X reviewer.
^reason #1 I don't usually post on his review threads. You're probably right.
But I really don't think anyone should take his reviews seriously. He's fabricating the truth in this review. Not to say it's on purpose or anything, but he's taking one part of the game (apparently the only part he even played- the tutorial) and bashing it into the dust and calling the whole thing horrible as a result. In some reviews, he says good things. Yahtzee's not about the good or bad parts of a game. He focuses on the bad usually, but it's whatever makes for a more funny video that goes in. That's why his reviews shouldn't be taken seriously. "Brawl sucks" - obviously not. "Halo blah blah worst FPS ever" - not if you play the right modes. "MH Tri is the worst" - just ask me and my 110 hours' game time. It's a bunch of game bashing and, while it is funny, it isn't accurate. Based on his word, I should never buy a video game ever. Or maybe just Portal. There are few games he actually said much good about, which would lead most people to the conclusion that they aren't worth getting.
I'm not trying to defend Yahtzee or anything, he's a big boy now and of course you are completely entitled to your own opinion. I've never played Monster Hunter so I can't really comment on whether the review is false or not but I still don't think Yahtzee should be disregarded as a reviewer. But thats not really a compliment on his part. More a sign of my skepticism of reviews in general. While other reviewers may go into greater detail and lengths their reviews are still essentially just their opinion (at least in my mind) like these videos are just Yahtzee's opinion, albeit just with more swear words and metaphors delivered quickly.

But I do agree that anyone that bases their opinion of a game off of a sole review is a bit of a mug.
True. After thinking about it a bit, I think his review is still a valid one. It's a biased one, but then again that's just Yahtzee. He doesn't do grind-heavy games or games whose purpose is to just play and get better. I never saw him liking Monster Hunter. His reviews are there for the laughs more than for the valid and reasonable opinions. And as usual, it was a funny review. He pointed out only the bad parts, but that's what he does. I'm sure anyone who's at all interested in the game would be checking other sources and know what the game is all about.
 

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This thread is pretty embarrassing. I love Yahtzee's videos as much as the next, but people treating them as an actual review need to get a grip. The overall outlook is never even remotely positive, and if you use these videos to determine whether you should buy a game you're fucking retarded.
 

Zeroraven

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Yahtzee played for an hours and quit right as he got to the end of the tutorial section from the looks of it.

Anyone who thought that was a valid review of the game, please do yourself and everyone else a favor and DO NOT get this game. You are an idiot and should not get anywhere close to this game. The last thing i need is to see another punk when i join a quest and have him fail the quest for us.

Monsters do not have health bar, no the game doesn't auto-aim for you and no you don't win by spamming the attack button. There's no story, the game is just that, a game. It's like every old school game where most of what you do is play the game and not sit through a shitty story that's in every modern game. You fight monsters and that's it. Is it a grind fest? yep, that part is kinda a ***** but you accomplish it by playing the game more, something you should be enjoying anyway if you stick with it for that long. Bottom line, if you're one of those sissy that play through a game and expect stuff to be given to you, stay the fuck away. If you enjoy fighting stuff that's way too strong for you then you're welcome to try it out.