Zero Punctuation: Next Gen Buyer's Guide

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Silentpony_v1legacy

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This is kinda where I'm at. I still only have one current gen console- a 360. I have no reason to get a xbox one or PS4. Maybe im in the minority on this one, but I don't think the current gen is done with. I see no reason for a whole new gen of consoles!
 

Luminos564

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Honestly, none of the newer consoles appeal to me in the same way that the PS2 originally did (I did not even buy a PS3 until nearly 3 years after its release). The WiiU is, as Yahtzee said, unimpressive in the game line up. PS4, knowing SONY's tradition, will likely suck at launch and will take at least a year or two before the really good games start coming out. And the Xbox One? Yeah, I'm sorry Microsoft but you really dropped the ball at that presentation.

I'll give SONY some credit, in that they're also trying to ensure the PS Vita doesn't die out by making sure most of their PS4 games can be remote played with it. But, that assumes people actually want to buy the Vita in the first place.
 

Anti-Robot Man

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I agree with everything in the video, and I think the odds of this console generation causing another industry crash are pretty high.

I've loved console gaming since the 8-bit era, and have usually had more than one machine per generation, but with the way things look for the next gen I've decided to build a dedicated games pc and attach it to my tv. With the console architecture aligning with PCs, ports should be better than during the current gen, and the specs are much closer to an average rig than in previous generations.

Consoles have lost pretty much all the advantages they once had: they're expensive (especially when adding in extra costs like subscriptions and peripherals, and overall higher price of games), they're almost as much hassle (I have to enter a code for almost every game I play, install it to the HD, (re-)download updates, etc.), and are likely to restrict what I do with my games (used game restrictions/can't lend).

With both the PS4 and XBox One lacking backwards compatibility, there's literally no incentive for me to stick with them on account of my existing library. I'll miss out on a few exclusives but they are mostly going to be sequels to long in the tooth franchises like Halo and Gears anyway.
 

Aiddon_v1legacy

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Strain42 said:
I know it's not really fair to say this since the PS4 and XBO were only recently announced and haven't had the time to show off some of their games, but I think if I'm gonna buy any next gen consoles at all, it would be the Wii U.

I always hear people going "But it doesn't have any games!" and that may be true...but I know it's got a lot of stuff coming out that I'm going to want.

Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem, Yarn Yoshi, Super Luigi U, Super Smash Bros. 4, Rayman Legends, Game & Wario and that's just off the top of my head.

Honestly, I know it varies from person to person, but the Wii U has been announcing more games I have any interest in playing than we've gotten from the 360 in the past few years now.

But my rules for buying ANY console is that it has to have at least 10 titles I want before I consider buying it (and at least 5 must be console exclusive)

So I'm not really in any rush to buy any of the consoles right now.

Just that if I was to get any, the Wii U is currently the most likely.
Yeah, Nintendo will solve that problem by the end of the year and suddenly we'll all be wondering why people were ever demanding for Iwata's head on a silver platter. People said the same crap with the DS, the Wii, and the 3DS and every time they had to eat their words when sales picked up and titles kept coming. 3rd parties never get to fact that Nintendo's titles are indeed the system sellers for growing an install base...but even diehard Nintendo fans want something between 1st party titles. It's why stuff like RE: Revelations can succeed if the devs and pubs actually put some EFFORT into it. Heck, one of the most hotly anticipated titles for the 3DS right now is SMTIV. By end of the year the Wii U will be getting a bigger install base and suddenly third parties might want to be eyeing other avenues
 

The Lugz

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DVS BSTrD said:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!
'CONSOLE DISGRACE'
lug ft, 'dvs'


it's a disgrace in the face of the master race!
outta pace outta space in the console race
'insert obnoxious techno bebop nonsense'

Chorous:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!


sony's playing the safety dance, step left, step right
we got ram and a stick suckkas! that's right.
stick your social media innn the fight
beep, beep, split screen! ya'll got friends, er right?


Chorous:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!

nintendon't know, what to do, they forgot the games
'whopety doo' it's got touch and sound,
gyro's 'n' stuff.. NFC what the reader's for?
sounds ( to me ) like a pile of fluff.

bloop blip, flippty trip.

Chorus:
Are you ready?
Yeah, you think you can tell us what to do (with a console)?
You think you can tell us what to play?
You think that your better (then what we have now)?
Well you better get ready
To bow to the master (race)
Break it down!

Micro, soft in the brain fliped out locked down
your money in the drain! boo hoo f%^$ you
we got hal 9000 stuck in the cloud, just..
DEAL WITH IT!

you did... red ring... oh, 'sigh' well s%^*



Yep, it's pretty terrible and with great effort it might be as bad as this generation..
( with allot of effort ).
 

kenu12345

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geizr said:
kenu12345 said:
irishda said:
Welcome back kids to another edition of "New Generation Hatred", a joyous occasion where the next generation is hated because it seems different than the old one. Then a bunch of people will buy it, it'll slowly faze out the majority of the old consoles, and everyone will get used to it and forget they hated it because there are other things to complain about. Then the next series will be announced and lo the cycle will start anew.
so so true. Why does this have to happen every gen
Believe it or not, there was once a time when people were looking forward to the next generation. It's just that lately, far too much BS has been added to the mix.
And believe it or not there were still false rumors and people yelling at the top of their voices that this would be the end of gaming. Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.
 

RJ Dalton

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When it comes to my relationship to consoles, I describe myself as being like a recessive gene trait. I usually skip a generation.
 

Cid Silverwing

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That "Don't!" at the end is exactly my thoughts for this generation.

Fuck this new generation - the market cannot support this new avalanche of shovelware mid-crash.

CRASH already! So we can be RID of the garbage and freshen things up!
 
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sadly the things you said abou kinect are right.
reality is far more crass than your idea, which you might thing of as overexaggerated-but it is not.
its worse.


it WILL take notes- on how much people are in the room and THEN it will shut down the thinsg(eh movies) you &your pals watch until you entered your credit-card number or bought enough points to pay 3 times more because you and 2 other people are in the room adn none of the other people bought the movie you want to see.
and because they did not bought the movie, you have to -for them.


big brother 2.0 was never so real as with the: always on+ face recognition+ heart-rate monitoring+people counting(and via face recognition identifying)money demanding+room surveiling +motion detecting (and seeing how much force you apply if you hit the pal next to you because he makes too much noise with his popcorn) kinect.

micoroft filed a patent for this technology. and for applying the technology on pc and smartphones if you connect the big-brother 2.0 with it.


full patent:

i urge you to read it, most important are point:1, 5, 6, 8,9, 12, 13-14, 15-18


http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220120278904%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20120278904&RS=DN/20120278904
 

Steve the Pocket

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Then we get 20 pages of nothing but morons on Facebook yelling, "PC GAMING IS AWESOME FUCK YOU WANKERS!"
There's nobody on Facebook but morons anyway. Who cares what they end up saying?
 

Lovely Mixture

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kenu12345 said:
Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.
They have shown what they have

PS4
-a new controller
-no backwards compatibility
-social integration

Xbone
-no backwards compatibility
-voice commands
-a required peripheral (that no one wants)
-possible online requirements
 

WeepingAngels

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kenu12345 said:
geizr said:
kenu12345 said:
irishda said:
Welcome back kids to another edition of "New Generation Hatred", a joyous occasion where the next generation is hated because it seems different than the old one. Then a bunch of people will buy it, it'll slowly faze out the majority of the old consoles, and everyone will get used to it and forget they hated it because there are other things to complain about. Then the next series will be announced and lo the cycle will start anew.
so so true. Why does this have to happen every gen
Believe it or not, there was once a time when people were looking forward to the next generation. It's just that lately, far too much BS has been added to the mix.
And believe it or not there were still false rumors and people yelling at the top of their voices that this would be the end of gaming. Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.
I really am sick of people telling us to wait before we criticize? Wait for what? First it was wait for the Xbone reveal, wait till the Wii U launches to criticize it and so on. This is just a game of "cross this line", "now this line" and it never ends.

Let me ask you, can we criticize the Wii yet or should we wait until they discontinue them?
 

kenu12345

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Lovely Mixture said:
kenu12345 said:
Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.
They have shown what they have

PS4
-a new control
-no backwards compatibility
-social integration

Xbone
-no backwards compatibility
-voice commands
-a required peripheral (that no one wants)
-possible online requirements
They have revealed part of it and you are omitting the upgraded hardware. I get the lack of backwards compatiblity but whats so wrong with having a share feature for those who want it. Also, maybe im not quite reading it right but whats a new control? Dont forget the wii u too
 

Trishbot

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We all know the winner of the next gen race will be Sega after a dramatic and sudden increase of interest in the Dreamcast. Shenmue III, here we come!
 

kenu12345

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WeepingAngels said:
kenu12345 said:
geizr said:
kenu12345 said:
irishda said:
Welcome back kids to another edition of "New Generation Hatred", a joyous occasion where the next generation is hated because it seems different than the old one. Then a bunch of people will buy it, it'll slowly faze out the majority of the old consoles, and everyone will get used to it and forget they hated it because there are other things to complain about. Then the next series will be announced and lo the cycle will start anew.
so so true. Why does this have to happen every gen
Believe it or not, there was once a time when people were looking forward to the next generation. It's just that lately, far too much BS has been added to the mix.
And believe it or not there were still false rumors and people yelling at the top of their voices that this would be the end of gaming. Just want everyone to wait and at least check out what the new gen has to offer before yelling that it sucks before knowing it. It's annoying.
I really am sick of people telling us to wait before we criticize? Wait for what? First it was wait for the Xbone reveal, wait till the Wii U launches to criticize it and so on. This is just a game of "cross this line", "now this line" and it never ends.

Let me ask you, can we criticize the Wii yet or should we wait until they discontinue them?
I'm saying wait til you actually get more information on it. I remember people condemning the systems just based on rumors and it annoyed the hell out of me. Yes, I agree the xbox's features that have been annouced are stupid and deserve to be called out. Go right ahead but dont condemn something for things that it never has even mentioned or that are completly optional