I wonder what he think about Evil Genius? I thinl its a bloody good game, but with annoying little things like the stupidness of the minions...
Zero Punctuation: Overlord 2
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Oddly enough, nothing he said actually stops me from wanting the game. I liked the irony in the first game and grew to like the evil stoic. *cough*SelfInsertionFantasyPersona*cough* So I was looking forward to raising his kid. *cough*badparenting*cough*
Damn summer colds.
Damn summer colds.
I've said it before, but evidently it needs to be said again:
If you base your decisions upon the opinion of a single person (no matter how interesting, amusing, and/or intelligent that person may be), please start bleating because you are SHEEP!
Seriously, isn't that the definition of a 'follower'?
I always take Yahtzee's reviews for what I'm pretty sure he intended them to be- comedy, with perhaps the added bonus of conveying some salient facts about a game. Given the nature of Yahtzee's personality and humor, I recognize that he will most likely focus primarily on the negative aspects of the game he is reviewing, and I look at those criticisms and figure out if they are relevant to my own personal pet peeves.
The control issues are a good example: if Yahtzee says that the controls handled like an ass on stilts strapped to rollerskates and it seems as if some of the challenge of the game is simply overcoming poor controls, then that is going to give me pause because that is something that I HATE.
But as far as the "that you're supposed to be a dick takes the fun out of being a dick", or "the possibility of forming an attachment to your minions to the point that you'd pay to bring them back from the dead is ludicrous" (no, I have not, in fact, named my dining room chairs... yet) criticisms, well, I don't necessarily agree with those opinions, so I ignore them.
I also disagree about his take on the function of critics-- reviews and the like may contribute a bit to the refinement process, but as someone else pointed out, it's all about profit motive, as is thoroughly demonstrated by the steaming mounds of turd-like game sequels that are constantly shovelled out the door. No, the primary role critics play is to help their audience make informed decisions about what they do with their entertainment dollar, instead of just opting to toss it out the window. Yes, that does have a bit of an impact on profit motive, as it might help shape sales somewhat, but when you correlate the numbers, it is, at best, tertiary.
but meh, food for thought at least. He should've chosen Evil Genius. I've played both and I thought EG was the better of the two.
If you base your decisions upon the opinion of a single person (no matter how interesting, amusing, and/or intelligent that person may be), please start bleating because you are SHEEP!
Seriously, isn't that the definition of a 'follower'?
I always take Yahtzee's reviews for what I'm pretty sure he intended them to be- comedy, with perhaps the added bonus of conveying some salient facts about a game. Given the nature of Yahtzee's personality and humor, I recognize that he will most likely focus primarily on the negative aspects of the game he is reviewing, and I look at those criticisms and figure out if they are relevant to my own personal pet peeves.
The control issues are a good example: if Yahtzee says that the controls handled like an ass on stilts strapped to rollerskates and it seems as if some of the challenge of the game is simply overcoming poor controls, then that is going to give me pause because that is something that I HATE.
But as far as the "that you're supposed to be a dick takes the fun out of being a dick", or "the possibility of forming an attachment to your minions to the point that you'd pay to bring them back from the dead is ludicrous" (no, I have not, in fact, named my dining room chairs... yet) criticisms, well, I don't necessarily agree with those opinions, so I ignore them.
I also disagree about his take on the function of critics-- reviews and the like may contribute a bit to the refinement process, but as someone else pointed out, it's all about profit motive, as is thoroughly demonstrated by the steaming mounds of turd-like game sequels that are constantly shovelled out the door. No, the primary role critics play is to help their audience make informed decisions about what they do with their entertainment dollar, instead of just opting to toss it out the window. Yes, that does have a bit of an impact on profit motive, as it might help shape sales somewhat, but when you correlate the numbers, it is, at best, tertiary.
but meh, food for thought at least. He should've chosen Evil Genius. I've played both and I thought EG was the better of the two.
Overlord 1 was so much better than 2. Smarter minions, funnier, more interesting fighting and exploring, and it's only like $10-20. While it seemed like Codemasters knew what it was doing on the surface, they really weren't able to construct a worthy sequel. I heartily recommend Overlord 1, and hope you'll stay far away from 2.
Just a few specific things that drove me insane:
-Town control. Killing/dominating 100 townspeople is one of the most horribly dull and repetitive things I've endured in gaming
-Minions keep returning to your side after killing a single animal/enemy, instead of moving onto the next close foe, forcing you to constantly redeploy them. They fail to pick up life force half the time after killing an animal too.
-Their repetitive voice clips go off constantly, and over top of one another. This is most evident once you have some mounted minions. "Giddy up! Good wolfy! giddgood wolrun run!" Shut up!
-The location to switch mistresses is really far away from the place where you choose decorations. Your active mistress determines your choices, so you're constantly running back and forward to compare decorations. What the hell's the point!?
Just a few specific things that drove me insane:
-Town control. Killing/dominating 100 townspeople is one of the most horribly dull and repetitive things I've endured in gaming
-Minions keep returning to your side after killing a single animal/enemy, instead of moving onto the next close foe, forcing you to constantly redeploy them. They fail to pick up life force half the time after killing an animal too.
-Their repetitive voice clips go off constantly, and over top of one another. This is most evident once you have some mounted minions. "Giddy up! Good wolfy! giddgood wolrun run!" Shut up!
-The location to switch mistresses is really far away from the place where you choose decorations. Your active mistress determines your choices, so you're constantly running back and forward to compare decorations. What the hell's the point!?
you kinda have a point there, sometimes i wonder if we and by WE i mean me and yathse play the same game.
but then i see him riping apart usually the main flaws wich i love "halo 3 being a good rule of thumb by focusing on extremely flawed sp that alot a reviewers seem more than happy overlooking and thus makin spend 60 freaking dollars that i not getting back" , i downloaded both demos from psn and did not care to play it to the end .
but i absolutely see i anyone would like the game , decent controls and graphics and..... O YEAH u get to club baby seals
but then i see him riping apart usually the main flaws wich i love "halo 3 being a good rule of thumb by focusing on extremely flawed sp that alot a reviewers seem more than happy overlooking and thus makin spend 60 freaking dollars that i not getting back" , i downloaded both demos from psn and did not care to play it to the end .
but i absolutely see i anyone would like the game , decent controls and graphics and..... O YEAH u get to club baby seals
Is it just me or does it seem like you can't win with Yatzhee and the morality system issue? He blasts Infamous for letting you be either good or evil, he blasts Prototype for trying to make Alex seem like an antihero while he's killing and consuming everyone within tenticals reach, and appernetly (still can't get the darn video to load) he blasts Overlord for not making any attempt at all to portray you as anything other than a villian and letting you choose between mind controling everyone and slaughtering them.
Its fun isn't it?Strong Intelligent said:
Who the hell says that still? Have you benn left two long in the British Australian vault of Yahtzee doom?(ok that took alot more thinking then anyone will care for)Macksheath said:
Uhh, i forgot what i was gonna say inbetween talking about the first quote and the second
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A fat ass, on stilts...and roller skates...lol! RTS strategy games lost their luster for me a long time ago with things like Command and Conquer and Warcraft. I also agree that half the fun of being a dick while playing a video game is the fact that you're not necessarily "supposed to". I definitely enjoyed the laughs I got from this review.
Sacrifice.
THAT is a game he should play. I know it is a RTS, but it plays very different from the usual RTS and has a delightful setting. In it a bunch of jerkasses Gods fight over the alliance with a wizard (that's you) because of a track record of destroying an entire dimension (his birthplace). Interestingly, Persephone (Goddess of Life) is eviller than Charnel (God of Slaughter).
And Phoenixes are bloated creatures covered in wings that seem to struggle to just keep living. Everything is twisted.
THAT is a game he should play. I know it is a RTS, but it plays very different from the usual RTS and has a delightful setting. In it a bunch of jerkasses Gods fight over the alliance with a wizard (that's you) because of a track record of destroying an entire dimension (his birthplace). Interestingly, Persephone (Goddess of Life) is eviller than Charnel (God of Slaughter).
And Phoenixes are bloated creatures covered in wings that seem to struggle to just keep living. Everything is twisted.
I liked it more than overlord 1 and pik min so i guess nintendo fails at making their ideas. The game had a good humor about it. The minions are so cute when they say treasure! But yea its easy to get ose in this game and money is bloody rare and the game is made to be finished twice by either becoming a destruction overlord or a dominion overlord. But i wqas 3/4 trhough destruction and my spells were pretty much the same. The spells sucks.
It's funny, but also sad, when people jump on the bandwagon of hatred because Yahtzee hates it.
I still remember few weeks ago when dozens of people said they LOVE the game, and now everyone acts like they have completely changed their mind...
I mean COME THE HELL ON, a 79/100 on Metacritics and people hate it? I think something is just not right here.
I still remember few weeks ago when dozens of people said they LOVE the game, and now everyone acts like they have completely changed their mind...
I mean COME THE HELL ON, a 79/100 on Metacritics and people hate it? I think something is just not right here.
