Zero Punctuation: Overlord 2
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I suddenly see the absurdity of criticism: it assumes that the object of its critique actually wants to improve. What a ridiculously foolish assumption. What it wants - what everything and everyone everywhere wants - is to make money. The end. Now let's refashion the entire methodology of criticism around a market-based ideology and see where we get. I can guarantee it will seem, at the very least, less absurd.
Dr.Poisonfreak said:
Seriously?Freakout456 said:
This is something I never understand - you were thinking of trying the game out, but because Yahtzee, someone that sensationalizes poor points about a game and generally acts as though he hates everything for comedic effect says its bad, you won't try it...
That's pretty stupid...besides which the role of a critique is not to improve aspects of the game it is to criticise them...criticism is subjective, and going on about the bad points of the game without offering any form of suggestion as to how it could be improved helps nobody...
Agreed, I mean it would make sense to try and game if he LIKED it since thats very rare (reason why I looked into Saints Row 2), but if you went by his advice 110% you'd probably have a small game's library.D_987 said:
The best case of him trashing a good game with good advice was MGS4 (that had enough fanboys to defend, it Overlord 2 doesn't) because he pointed out that the plot would be confusing for those who aren't long time fans... thats advice to go by.
Since this sin't a mainstream game there won't be that many comment with most being "never heard of it" or "won't get it now" with the later most likely being said since this is probably the only review of Overlord 2 they'll read.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7VAhzPcZ-s
I find it very ironic that the Nazi reference was made at the end - almost as if he was pointing to this. Try listening to this embarrassingly bad copycat tosser and compare the video to Yahtzee's. It should serve as an effective test to determine whether you're exactly the kind of brainless dipshit Yahtzee constantly whines about (e. g. Mr. "Absolutely Brilliant Review As Always", etc.) or a person with inclinations of seeking truth and the capabilities of forming a distinct opinion. I'm rather curious as to what ratio this thread will have.
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I find it very ironic that the Nazi reference was made at the end - almost as if he was pointing to this. Try listening to this embarrassingly bad copycat tosser and compare the video to Yahtzee's. It should serve as an effective test to determine whether you're exactly the kind of brainless dipshit Yahtzee constantly whines about (e. g. Mr. "Absolutely Brilliant Review As Always", etc.) or a person with inclinations of seeking truth and the capabilities of forming a distinct opinion. I'm rather curious as to what ratio this thread will have.
Oh wait.
... Wait, you mean people take Yathzee's reviews word to word? Excuse me while I go laugh hysterically as I play the game.
Besides the dodgy sweep controls on the PC version the game quite entertaining. If anything unlike the first game this time around when it claims you do evil it's actually evil, not being a schoolyard bully. Frankly I like the "make everyone my *****" route you can take.
Besides the dodgy sweep controls on the PC version the game quite entertaining. If anything unlike the first game this time around when it claims you do evil it's actually evil, not being a schoolyard bully. Frankly I like the "make everyone my *****" route you can take.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7VAhzPcZ-s
I find the Nazi reference at the end very ironic - it's almost as if he pointed to this. These days, I honestly think he's pulling off the low quality as a sort of experiment to see just how much his fanatical asshole-licking followers can take. Have a look at this embarrassingly bad copycat tosser and compare the video to Yahtzee's. It'll serve as an effective test to determine whether you're exactly the sort of brainless dipshit Yahtzee constantly whines about (e. g. Mr. "Absolutely Brilliant Review As Always", etc.) or a person inclined to seek truth and with the capability of forming a distinct opinion for themselves. I'm rather curious as to what the ratio will be in this thread.
Oh wait.
I find the Nazi reference at the end very ironic - it's almost as if he pointed to this. These days, I honestly think he's pulling off the low quality as a sort of experiment to see just how much his fanatical asshole-licking followers can take. Have a look at this embarrassingly bad copycat tosser and compare the video to Yahtzee's. It'll serve as an effective test to determine whether you're exactly the sort of brainless dipshit Yahtzee constantly whines about (e. g. Mr. "Absolutely Brilliant Review As Always", etc.) or a person inclined to seek truth and with the capability of forming a distinct opinion for themselves. I'm rather curious as to what the ratio will be in this thread.
Oh wait.
I thought the first overlord's control issues were an artifact of the game being a poor Console to PC port, and I am not entirely surprised that the second overlord suffers from the same issue.
My main gripe about this review is; How does Yahtzee justify saying dickish simulators aren't fun when he gave fairly positive reviews to Infamous and Prototype? Especialy when he pointed out how enjoyable it was to act like a dick with the game play elements that actually required you to be a dick to advance the story. It just all seems so inconsistent.
I don't think Overlord was a particular impressive game, but saying the whole genera of "lets be the bad guy" dark humor games is a bad idea might discourage some truly great games from being made. Dungeon Keeper
My main gripe about this review is; How does Yahtzee justify saying dickish simulators aren't fun when he gave fairly positive reviews to Infamous and Prototype? Especialy when he pointed out how enjoyable it was to act like a dick with the game play elements that actually required you to be a dick to advance the story. It just all seems so inconsistent.
I don't think Overlord was a particular impressive game, but saying the whole genera of "lets be the bad guy" dark humor games is a bad idea might discourage some truly great games from being made. Dungeon Keeper
I thought Overlord II was fun and had a couple good laughs. I might even give the first one a try. I will agree that your minions control like ass and will add that the game is ridiculously short with no replay value whatsoever but it's still fun. Maybe I'm being too lenient considering I only rented it but whatever.
??? I really like the Overlord series, for me it's like Pikmin for Xbox 360, but mure fun, funnier, and with less annoying stuff. I was actually able to use strategy in it. Hell, I'll even look forward to Overlord 3! On console, of course, PC games always end up feeling like Microsoft Word.
I don't agree at all ... complaining about the similar look of the Overlord to Sauron is kinda stupit since Overlord is supposed to be a parody. And he didn't loose one word about the humor.
Still a fun review though
... btw. Evil Genious really is an amazing game.
Still a fun review though
... btw. Evil Genious really is an amazing game.
What a boring review.
Hey, let's not objectively say "some people who can overlook flaws could like it" "HATE, HATE, HATE".
Genius.
Overlord 2 is a flawed gem of a game and if you're willing to overlook the problems, numerous as they may be, you can have some fun. They should certainly make the third one open world and fix the clusterfuckian minion controls, though.
Hey, let's not objectively say "some people who can overlook flaws could like it" "HATE, HATE, HATE".
Genius.
Overlord 2 is a flawed gem of a game and if you're willing to overlook the problems, numerous as they may be, you can have some fun. They should certainly make the third one open world and fix the clusterfuckian minion controls, though.
I was kinda hoping he would have done a reveiw on the guy who did a reveiw of the Zero Punctuation level in Little Big Planet but this was pretty funny too. Good job Yahtzee, you're videos are my weekly dose of drugs.
Radical and the inFamous developers actually did what he said in previous videos, and this seemed a lot more critical than usual, so I wonder if this review is partly a test to see if Yahtzee can kill a game's sales, partly to see how much influence he really has in the gaming industry.
If you think that's a run-on sentence, try studying german.
If you think that's a run-on sentence, try studying german.