Zero Punctuation: Overlord 2

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Taranaich

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Even though I like Overlord 2, I can't disagree with anything Yahtzee mentions in the review save the "it's not as fun being the bad guy when the game tells you to be one" - isn't that the point of Saint's Row 2?

You're a total bastard in SR2, and even if you never kill anyone that isn't shooting you, there are moments in the cutscenes where you're using innocent people as human shields or just running them over. Sure, SR2 is more polished and playable than Overlord 2, but I find it strange to criticize Overlord's "forced evil" and yet praise that exact element in SR2.

Also, the "resurrecting favourite minions" can be useful, as this means you can resurrect high-level minions that have died. It's basically upgrading the minions under the guise of caring about them.

I think Overlord 2 could've benefitted from a lot more personalisation. Few of the minions have any character outside the ones that stay in the lair, it would be nice for there to be slight variations in personality and character beyond just the colour types. Also having the mistresses *do something* - you got to be Overlord of the Bedroom in the first game, in this one, none of that. Dammit.
 

sfried

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Was he reviewing Overlord 2 or the first one?

Pretty spunky an succinct installment. I like it. (This episode. I haven't played the game.)
 

Anot

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Overlord is just like fable. Full of linear worlds and epic big feet colorful ninjas.
 

standokan

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"It's my canabalism that does that."
i really laughed long on that joke (my brother came looking what was going on)
 

Castigar0

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Overlord 2 is a great game, and it has bad faults, but he complains about the Computer Version, try the Console versions, on Xbox 360 the game runs great and the minion control is very simple
 

burninfidels

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The Keeper said:
The Pope is lawful evil, huh?

Nice to know that Yahtzee is still a little child at heart. Then again, it's games that he excels in, and not worldly issues.
Lol, offended much?
 

CounterAttack

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Which was the ZP episode that had the "extrrrrravaganza" bit? I'm trying to find it but I don't remember which one it is.
Just asking.
 

searanox

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I have the game on PC and it's a lot of fun. I know the Yahtzee is talking about, and a lot of people have trouble with it because of the mouse. The game is designed for a controller - if you have one, hook it up to your PC (an Xbox controller works fine), and use that. I think you'll find the experience a good deal smoother. The game definitely has some issues with polish as well as "where to go and what to do next", but it's got a lot of charm and the morality system (i.e. dominate vs. destroy) is a cute satire.

It is definitely lacking in strategy, though. Most of the time you can get away with just holding the right trigger and letting your guys do their thing. I think the move towards larger horde sizes later in the game, about 25+, starts to move the game towards being a standard action affair. By contrast, I think the original one topped you off at 20 minions, which is more or less what you start out with in the sequel.

Another minor issue is that it has pretensions of being a less linear game that it is; you have to be pretty blind to miss a lot of the stuff in it, so there's very rarely a reason to return to earlier parts, and almost all branching paths lead to dead ends.
 

mike1921

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CounterAttack said:
Which was the ZP episode that had the "extrrrrravaganza" bit? I'm trying to find it but I don't remember which one it is.
Just asking.
Super smash brothers brawl
 

Elemental

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Nazulu said:
Hold on, you make linearity sound like a really bad thing. All well, Good stuff Yahtzee.

MeXR said:
i really enjoyed today's episode
but i have a question... who the hell is this guy at 0:33?????
i have seen him in almost every episode of ZP
I have a question for you. What is that you put as your avatar? I swear I see that thing everywhere while surfing the net.
it's called Shoop-Da-Whoop and it shoots lasers out of his mouth
yes its stupid, i only put it as an avatar cuz it looks funny XD.

now could someone please answer my question?
 

Nazulu

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MeXR said:
Nazulu said:
Hold on, you make linearity sound like a really bad thing. All well, Good stuff Yahtzee.

MeXR said:
i really enjoyed today's episode
but i have a question... who the hell is this guy at 0:33?????
i have seen him in almost every episode of ZP
I have a question for you. What is that you put as your avatar? I swear I see that thing everywhere while surfing the net.
it's called Shoop-Da-Whoop and it shoots lasers out of his mouth
yes its stupid, i only put it as an avatar cuz it looks funny XD.

now could someone please answer my question?
Yeah I figured that one out not too long ago. I find it a flipping hilarious picture, cartoon style crazy always gets me like in Ren & Stimpy. Thanks though, appreciate it.

Unfortunately I have no idea who that guy is either, maybe you can bring up a thread on it.
 

PEPPI

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The movies do not work if you have installed the latest version of firefox.
You can try internet explorer for the time it is not fixed yet.
 

SsilverR

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I DON'T CARE!!!!

as long as i get to fuck up those tree hugging elves sponsored by Peta ... i'll buy this game and a spare copy
 

gtotheb

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I'm honestly not surprised he didnt like it, I am surprised , however, that he chose to review it. Overlord is a love it or hate it game that is a little touchy in controls and has to be given a chance before you can actually enjoy it. Once you get the hang of the controls, the game is fun, creative, and very well-written. Overlord 2 is a little more linear than the first but still manages to be entertaining throughout, given that its your type of game. Also, I wouldnt ever recommend playing it on pc, the controls are much better on 360. I think yahtzee kind of missed the point of the game, its not supposed to be just a mindless rush fest the entire time. There is strategy if you choose to use it. The longer your minions stay alive, the stronger they get, rewarding you for strategizing, but at the same time the game is forgiving in that it gives you plenty of opportunities to get new minions should you ever lose them. This is something that I thought yahtzee would appreciate, but it seems either the shitty pc controls or his commitment to disliking the game overshadowed these good design choices. In any case, I can understand that this game might not be his "cup of tea" but its odd that he didnt realize the good design choices that were made.