Zero Punctuation: Saboteur
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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I'm sick of real life war-based shooters in general. They're boring to look at, we generally know how they're going to end, there's only so many variations of "dude wearing body armor" you can shoot before they all start to feel the same, and the atmosphere of oppressive horror that characterizes actual war (e.g. "All Quiet on the Western Front") is conspicuously absent when you can duck behind a rock for fifteen seconds to regenerate from a gaping chest wound.
Now, if someone decided to adapt AQotWF (or even just WWI in general) into a game, and made an effort to focus on the psychological horror aspects of it, I would buy that shit faster than you could say, "Not only does everyone you care about die horribly, but it's all pointless and ends up giving Hitler an excuse to manipulate Germany into making him its Evil Overlord."
borderline offensive jokes about Americans or any other group relevant to, possibly relevant to, or in the same vicinity as the current object of his scorn every other week.
Grow a thicker skin. Stay off the internet until you're finished. For your own good.
The More You Know(tm).
Now, if someone decided to adapt AQotWF (or even just WWI in general) into a game, and made an effort to focus on the psychological horror aspects of it, I would buy that shit faster than you could say, "Not only does everyone you care about die horribly, but it's all pointless and ends up giving Hitler an excuse to manipulate Germany into making him its Evil Overlord."
Right, because he doesn't makeMegametalwolf said:
Grow a thicker skin. Stay off the internet until you're finished. For your own good.
My Irish History professor (whose parents emigrated from Ireland) had something very interesting to say about this. Apparently, actual scientific studies have found that a gene responsible for encouraging alcoholism is extremely common among the Irish. However, the general population seems to be aware of this, and a large number of people have decided not to take any chances as a result. So compared to other Western nations, Ireland has a disproportionately large number of both alcoholics and teetotalers. The meetings of the historical temperance movement that occured in Ireland in the 1830s as a result of that same backlash against alcohol just so happened to be very friendly towards Irish nationalists, and ended up encouraging a lot of poor Irish Catholics to start seriously thinking about independence for the first time.JaredXE said:
The More You Know(tm).
Ha, liked the review.
If they wanted to do the Saboteur better, they could have set it in Poland. Add quite the tragic feel as you try to hold off the Germans and the Russians, frantically busying yourself with a range of missions against two enemies on different sides of the map.
Course everyone doesn't know who the Polish are, or their history. And by everyone I mean Americans. *wink*
You could make a better game when the outcome isn't know quite so clearly. Oh sure the Nazis lose, but the question is, does the main character and the known NPCs survive the war? Also, welcome to the aftermath, it may not be quite as rosy as you hoped. Sequel?
Chaotic Neutral makes some points I have to agree with. Shooters are getting bland and repetitive.
If they wanted to do the Saboteur better, they could have set it in Poland. Add quite the tragic feel as you try to hold off the Germans and the Russians, frantically busying yourself with a range of missions against two enemies on different sides of the map.
Course everyone doesn't know who the Polish are, or their history. And by everyone I mean Americans. *wink*
You could make a better game when the outcome isn't know quite so clearly. Oh sure the Nazis lose, but the question is, does the main character and the known NPCs survive the war? Also, welcome to the aftermath, it may not be quite as rosy as you hoped. Sequel?
Chaotic Neutral makes some points I have to agree with. Shooters are getting bland and repetitive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Days_in_FallujahChaotic Neutral said:
Its not WWI and controversy surrounding it has lost Konami as a publisher but it sounds like it is/was supposed to be a psychological warfare game.
I think you missed the point. Yahtzee was highlighting the tendency for game companies to think that gamers will only regard foreigners through stereotypes, so they will not take an interest in a game in which the main character challenges the preconceptions (i.e. a Frenchman ≠ indulgent coward, or a Britishman ≠ stuffy, ponce). Instead, gamers want to play as characters who reinforce those stereotypes (American = rugged, patriot or Irish = down to earth, tough, cool accent). Saboteur follows this trend and embraces the stereotypes whole heartedly. As an Irish person, you should be offended by game's condescending attitude towards the Irish, not Yahtzee's lampshading of it with troll remarks.Megametalwolf said:
Actually I think he was a bit harsh, funny, but harsh. I was actually very interested in this game and still not sure. I liked Red faction and I like the Sin-City esque noir. (BTW Nazi flags, igsignia and lamps are colored 
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