Zero Punctuation: Saboteur

[Harmondale2]

what you said about the irish is very offensive man, you show your british colours with this you fucking english ****

Hey Michael Collins, the fight for independence is over? So seriously quit your bitching. I'm Irish and do you see me complaining? I can't help but laugh at the funny accents and guinness jokes, you know why, because its a "joke". Its not racist unless theres genuine hatred behind it. We're always making jokes about guinness and the funny accents where I am because its all so rediculiously untrue. Lighten up dude. Are you even Irish for that matter?

On a side note, I hate most of the americans that come over here, why do they need to yell everything? and I've honestly been asked if leprechauns exist... god save us all...

 

[BENZOOKA]

Another good review

 

[rynocerator]

Chill out, Megametalwolf. Why did you watch the videos when many of them contain racial humor if it offends you so? Why should people like me suffer because you can't take a joke? And besides, Yahtzee's an ass. Why let him get to you at all when he makes it abundantly clear on a near constant basis?

 

[Zing]

I'm going to be pedantic as hell right here, but it bugged me. I'd like to point out that the game is called "The Saboteur", not "Saboteur", there's a game from 1985 and a canceled game by that name.

Anyways yeah, pretty much echoed my thoughts exactly, the game just seemed "meh" for me, the story kept me going till the end, but it wasn't anything special, and as you noted, extremely predictable.

I was mostly in it for the cars and the atmosphere, I think Pandemic captured 1940's-nazi-occupied-Paris very well and the cars are sweet, I loved collecting them. But really the rest of the game was a Infamous/ACII/GTA clone with a much more generic-predictable story.

 

[Joeshmoe5]

he was born in britian

 

[nYuknYuknYuk]

Jeez, what happened? All you Irish people have you panties in a bunch. (And I refuse to call it anything less silly.)

 

[Fists]

In truth the shallowness of his Irish jokes are endearing of the people, there is nothing legitimately flawed about the so all he's got is "guiness, potatoes leprechaun". Rather than saying that all Irishmen have some sort of insufficiency in the bedroom.
Same with Australian jokes, we're awesome so its just "Fosters, Steve Dundee" (I know, Steve Irwin and Croc Dundee are different but that fits the jokes). Or at least that was the case until everyone found out we are the censorship nazis of the 21st century.

 

[Enigmers]

nope any kind of attack on any people is bad and angers me, yet i have seen no-one from those country's saying anything about it and im not going to bring up the problem as its not my land, if they did i would back them up.

im talking about the escapist and my day to day life

Believe me when I say we really, really do care. Please, keep posting.

Hell, if he said all Canadians were igloo mongering hillbillies with sled dogs for cars, I would have cared less. (I am Canadian, by the by)

I think that'd be cool, considering including me there are maybe ten people living in Canada and nobody ever mentions us anymore

 

[Born2xlr8]

LOL @ anenemy

 

[13752]

surprised he didn't take the piss out of the term "French Resistance"

 

[IamaPest]

Nice review, but it's still not as good as last weeks. That one made me laugh for like 3 days every time i thinked about it.

P.S.: For some odd reason i was expecting Zelda: Spirit Tracks...........

 

[Winter Rat]

what you said about the irish is very offensive man, you show your british colours with this you fucking english ****

Hey Michael Collins, the fight for independence is over? So seriously quit your bitching. I'm Irish and do you see me complaining? I can't help but laugh at the funny accents and guinness jokes, you know why, because its a "joke". Its not racist unless theres genuine hatred behind it. We're always making jokes about guinness and the funny accents where I am because its all so rediculiously untrue. Lighten up dude. Are you even Irish for that matter?

On a side note, I hate most of the americans that come over here, why do they need to yell everything? and I've honestly been asked if leprechauns exist... god save us all...

WE NEED TO YELL SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR AND UNDERSTAND HOW GODDAMN AWESOME WE ARE AND ALSO BECAUSE WE ARE FAT. YOU MEAN LEPRECHAUNS DON'T EXIST?

 

[thisisyournamenow]

what you said about the irish is very offensive man, you show your british colours with this you fucking english ****

Hey Michael Collins, the fight for independence is over? So seriously quit your bitching. I'm Irish and do you see me complaining? I can't help but laugh at the funny accents and guinness jokes, you know why, because its a "joke". Its not racist unless theres genuine hatred behind it. We're always making jokes about guinness and the funny accents where I am because its all so rediculiously untrue. Lighten up dude. Are you even Irish for that matter?

On a side note, I hate most of the americans that come over here, why do they need to yell everything? and I've honestly been asked if leprechauns exist... god save us all...

yes im irish full blooded born of the land, im sorry but its that type of talk that gets the iish into this, have some pride mate. oh and by the way if you look through my post you will see a clear cut reason.

 

[dududf]

Stupid idiots posting at 17:01.

I was going to try the game, since it's RFG + AC... but seeing how it holds a 77/100, I'll wait till I finish Mass Effect 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 on PC.


Also, when will we get to see a Scottish protagonist?

Here yeah go!
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Good review, but is it just me or did it sort of cut off at the end?
Like he was talking about something then broke off into a joke and ended it. w/e

 

[chiefohara]

well i find it offensive because what he said is used by most british as a factual statement and has been the bases of oppression for the irish people for years. so thats why

Quoted for Truth.

 

[chiefohara]

You irish people are ridiculous! (Wow, I'm totally judging all of you!)
Seriously though, what's with all the joy killing and whining? Get over yourselves, no one really cares or takes his 'racism' seriously. (that said no one with a brain takes any racism seriously).
I find the game quite fun, though some missions are really annoying and always make you die first to get the hint (like he said), and the driving from A to B over and over is ridiculous.

The alcohol and stupidity comments were a stereotype created by the British to demean Irish people and to help justify the occupation and repression of our country.

One of the reasons we got the 'stupid' stereotype is because at one point in our history the British made it illegal for us to be educated.

The constant potatoe jibes we get is because of a famine that killed over a million of us, and forced another million (or at least the million who survived the coffin ships) to emigrate... almost half the current population of the country. The Famine is also now called a holocaust by historians because it was so devastating. This is like laughing at the Jews by chanting the word 'oven'.

As regards Alcohol we are no different from the British and the Germans.

Its bad enough when we get this stereotyped crap from people who genuinely don't realise how its origins have its basis in repression but when it comes from an Englishman who does know or at the very least has a damn good idea where it comes from, it moves from being annoying into being offensive.

To put this whole thing into a context you'd probably grasp a little better, Imagine a game review where someone from texas mocks a black character for being a water melon slurping, fried chicken eating stupid *********** etc.

I know ZP ripped on the British and French as well, but there was a Monkey Island review a few episodes back where he ripped on the Irish in exactly the same manner recycling every piss poor cliche and stereotype and to see this shit re-emerge again for yet another review starts to get very annoying.

 

[Hazy]

what you said about the irish is very offensive man, you show your british colours with this you fucking english ****

Funny how you mentioned "Offensive," yet proceed to call him a "fucking english ****."

Just thought that was quite humorous.

OT: This was an improvement from last week's Demon's Souls review, and I thoroughly enjoyed this one quite a bit.

I think those who are getting a little offended by the Irish comments need to grow some thicker skin, and/or acknowledge who it's coming from.

Can't take a joke? Stay out of the comedy club. Simple as that.

 

[Hazy]

I do dislike French people

As your invasion statements have shown.

 

[The Cake Is Annoying]

Oh bravo. Bravo. Lets all give Micromentalwool a big round of applause for being so courageous to defending sweet innocent Ireland from this err... British Australian games critic.

God knows what would happen if this son of Cu Chulainn hadn't so courageously in whining ethic slurrs pseudonymously on the internet. Something unimaginable to be sure to be sure bygorrah...

While he is overreacting, you are segueing into racism yourself there man.

Fair point, I may be sailing close to the wind on that one. Sorry.

To get back on topic, I didn't find Yahtzee's depiction of the Irish offensive. And I've lived in Ireland long enough to remember when car bombs and Brits out weren't something that were just flamebait on the internet. They were real weapons and a real hatred that got real people killed. Funerals were held, lives were ruined on all sides. Payback was promised, sworn. It was a bloody and vicious cycle.

That the North isn't self destructing anymore is as much a modern miracle as a lasting peace in the middle east. A generation or two ago it was that hard to imagine.

So when Megametalwolf starts shooting his mouth off at Yahtzee because Megametalwolf is an internet tough guy fancy dressing as Irish rebel, it pisses me off. The one thing that makes me proud to be Irish is being alive when it was decided "enough is enough". And what he says really hits a nerve for people like me who are old enough to remember what putting four foot boxes in the ground feels like.

If you want a 3 dimensional take on the Irish, without the cheap potato jokes and stereotypes, that's fine. But its not the fault of lazy developers in the US responsible. If you do some research on the realities of life in Ireland today and its recent history and quickly you'll realise the alcoholism jokes become some of the LEAST offensive and universally recognised touchstones to use to build Irish characterization.