Zero Punctuation: Saints Row 2

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Looks good - better than GTA IV

 

[Laughing Atheist]

me and my roommate have spent weeks arguing which is more important, fun or realism. it's good to know that Yahtzee and I agree on this one. fun>>>>>>realism and grit

Tell your friend if he wants realism, go play sports. Or play the sims without all the add-ons. He should have a blast.

 

[Laughing Atheist]

The only thing Saints Row did better is by adding a bunch of useless features. If Rockstar had left off where they did from San Andreas they too would have added a bunch of useless features.

Unfortunately they decided to NOT follow San Andreas' footsteps. They instead removed features and worked on other areas like,graphics,physics,and detail. I myself am a modeler and can appreciate the amount of work put into making the GTA 4 city. You can tell that in Siants Row 2 they just copied buildings and textures all over the place to fill things up.

To summarize what I'm trying to say in Gta 4 you can go to the middle of the city and stare at beautifully modeled buildings, amazing car models and physics, and an astounding amount of adverse and active pedestrians. In Saints Row you won't see any of that, but you can get in a side seat of a car and shoot rockets!

It really depends what kind of gamer you are. Personally I would love to have both scenarios. But if I have to chose I'd rather play a game that has style and grace than one that was made to keep ADD kids busy for long periods of time.

yes game with bad graphic are never any fun at all *rolls eyes*

You missed his point - he appreciates the beauty of GTA4 above the fun - you wouldnt expect fun from a painting or some fine literature but that doesnt mean it is inferior. Games dont always have to be about fun.

However...

I'd worry about appreciating GTA4 for architechural modeling because if you care to glace your eyes a little above the ground floor level you'll find they arent just identical but downright lazy at times. Also, yes i see the appeal of a wonderfully detailed city where everything happens as it should but there were few times where there was anything i actually wanted to look at, just because life is a wonderful magical thing to some doesnt mean it is everywhere, and if your're going to base a game on that you should pick a location you'd actually want to be in.

Actually the point of games is to entertain so, yes, they HAVE to be fun. That's why they're called games. If they weren't fun we would call them [World of Warcraft] I mean jobs.

1) http://www.answers.com/entertainment Does. Not. Mean. Fun... And from wiki "A video game is a game that involves interaction with a user interface to generate visual feedback on a video device" again, no fun has to be present. That said GTA4 was a fun game, at times, for a short while so even by your misconceptions it forfilled its purpose.
2) WE - the public - called it a game, hell, call it an interactive movie if you really want all the facts remain, doesnt make it any less worthwhile.
3) The WoW thing... *sigh* nevermind

but a game is a device to pass time and time flies when you're having fun...so therefore games have to be fun. I'm pulling out my ace in the hole here and saying that Yahtzee would agree with me.

Games don't have to be fun. But if they are not fun they are simply crap games, which is a definition I think applies to GTA4.

Actually, in this age, game DO have to be fun, and they are MADE to be fun. However, I will give you points for saying it- if they aren't fun, it doesn't make them any less a game.

 

[orneryboy]

Two things:

1)I wholeheartedly endorse giving Yahtzee whatever means necessary to have that Supervillain Sandbox style game see the light of day.

2)I would have never, EVER, *EVER* (shifts to 1999 Chris Jericho)EEEEEEEEVER (shifts back to normal) expected Yahtzee to make a Team Rocket reference.

MAD MAD Props for the TR reference.

 

[1337mokro]

I am hyped about yahtzee's Gotham City: The Riddler v.s Batman release, mind if I present that idea to THQ and Volition, they did an awesome job on SR2, the only thing they needed to do to have Yahtzee's ideal sandbox game made was remove all limitations from SR and put in jetpacks and freeze rays.

Teamrocket away!!!!!

 

[VxBREENERxV]

was a big fan of the first saints row for one reason the in game online multiplayer gang system which for some reason saints row 2 left out even though it made saints row 1 popular; which is why i don't really like it as much as the first one, love the review as its very VERY true GTA 4 Sucks with a captial S and saints row 2 is what we want in games mind blowing pointless killing and fun. Although u could maybe start to review the game fully as every game now has online multiplayer

 

[Equality]

Thanks Yahtzee. Was bored out of my mind and grimly played till the end of the story line in GTA4 in the hope that it would at some point get better. Traded it in straight after. Might not have got SR 2 if it wasn't for this review and I'm really glad that I didn't miss out. Much more fun and exactly what I had wanted GTA4 to be like.

 

[ssgt splatter]

LOL

 

[Arkhangelsk]

What did he say about someone's house being covered in poo? Couldn't make out what he was saying.

 

[The_Night_Walker]

if u give them guns, they will shoot old ladies; if u give them cars, they wil run ova old ladies; if u give them aircraft, they wil ascend to the highest possible height, and hurl themselves out onto an old lady - haha how did you come up with this lol

 

[locksmith9898]

all i do in the game was buy the airport safe house and blowup the landing planes

 

[Ep1c Fla1l]

"Mankind is yet to realise my genious" is a briliant idea and i would buy it.

 

[Obeliskos]

Because somebody had to do it.

 

[hobbeslayer117]

my copy will be here monday csnt wait

 

[Circusfreak]

i would really like to play "Mankind is yet to recognize my genius" please make it exist!!!

 

[DoctorObviously]

I don't know but everything Yahtzee says in 99% of his reviews make more sense than all the reviews I've seen or read bundled together.

 

[undeadfly]

ok, I liked this game. I bought it on the recommendation of yathzee. HOW-FUCKING-EVER!
WTF!!!! I was playing by myself and some guy asked to join my game. I was in the middle of a mission and didnt think anything of it and said yes. Then the fucking game said he was using cheats and I would not be able to save or get acheivements while they were on.
So I kicked him.

BUT THE FUCKING CHEATS REMAINED!?! Well I found that out after I played for another hour and decided to save. and it fucking wouldnt let me cause the cheats were still active and I could not turn them off!!!! FUCK THIS GAME AND FUCK YOU YAHTZEE!

This is something I would have expected you to catch.

 

[Craftybonds]

I was actually have an argument similar to your rant about realism in games before i watched this video. He loves realism; how fast things die, how shitty a car can handle, and how "realistic" things can look.

While i'm not totally against any of these aspects of a video game, it's my opinion that it defeats the purpose. it's why crackdown is still one of my favorite titles on the 360. they didn't give a shit about anything; they broke almost all laws of basic physics, but it was still face-smashing fun.

 

[DrHatsby]

It's a shame the PC version is a steaming pile of lag and control issues..
It really is.