Zero Punctuation: Splinter Cell: Conviction

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Xan Krieger

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Only thing I hated was the "free" healthcare joke because there is no such thing as free healthcare. We can't have the government paying for healthcare because we're trying to cut spending, not add another bill onto our already massive as mount Everest pile. The people are going to have to pay for it themselves until the government can afford to and I don't see that happening within my lifetime.
 

tkwelge

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"America practices foreign trade rights, market exclusionism and Anti-trust laws in a fashion that would have made Gorbachev blush.

All in all .. it's kinda funny that China and Japan's respective central banks basically own 10% of all American debt (as Bond holders) .... and yet America turn to Japan and says "sorry ... levees on foreign made cars :p

Equal give and take ... foundation of all good relationships .. .China and Japan bought up US Bonds (and continue to do so despite ridiculous rate of return which won't make them earn a single cent for the next 60 years) ... least you can do is drop tariffs on Japanese car manufacturers, or stop supporting corrupt, faltering motor companies like GM, now can't you?

Given that public debt of the US is 16 trillion, and represents 106.9% of US GDP .... that would mean of the 44% of foreign central banks owning US debt (as lenders, given almost half of America's debt is owed to Foreign organizations) ... that would mean that Japan and China alone literally own more than 10% of your entire country's net worth ... and the rest of the 34% being owned by Australia, England, Germany .... basically the rest of the developed world ...

I KNOW Americans know this....because |I watch American news on occasion ... America knows of US bailouts .... and Americans didn't pillage and burn. In fact most Americans seemed quite blase about the whole thing ..."


I couldn't agree more. The whole Europe=Socialism and USA=Free Markets thing couldn't be more wrong. We've both gone back and forth over and over again. Our shared trial now is the massive debt crunch and failure of non-specie backed, non-100% reserve banking systems all over the world. We're all in this boat together, and we've been heading this direction ever since WW1 destroyed the classic gold standard, and nationalism and greed made it impossible to reaffirm it. Since then, most GDP growth is the result of increased government expansion and borrowing as well as inflated, inverted pyramid style credit expansion in the private sector.
 

tkwelge

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The last paragraph in my comment above is my statement. Everything before that is a quote. It looks hard to tell, though. Sorry.
 

Mister Benoit

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Sensei Le Roof said:
I had to laugh. "Ubisoft Montreal? Well, that explains it." Dunno why, but it struck me as funny.
Go figure they also made Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time.

Ahh busting on my city T_T
 

Cyanide Christ

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tkwelge said:
In most of the US, somebody who rides public transportation and lives in an apartment is considered incredibly poor. Even teenagers can scrape enough money together to own a car and share a large (2200 square feet) rental house in many parts of the country.
America's made for cars, Europe isn't. The road network here is so bogged down that it's alot faster to go by public transport, which is quite excellent. It's a cultural thing, I live in a small country and you don't need a car to get around. Same thing with housing, space here is a scarce commodity and very expensive, restaurants usually don't have a parking lot instead of what it's like in the US where the restaurant is in the centre of a huge parking lot.

You can buy a parking space in the centre of Amsterdam for about $200,000.- , lol.
 

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TheEnglishman said:
LOL at the stupid Americans not wanting free health care.
That's so funny! Except that's not how it works, and it would dig into the pockets of Americans not to fix the debt we're in but to provide medicine in a way that's easily associated with socialism (since you'd be taking from all to provide for all), and that by the end it's simply taking money to force people to buy health care.

Who's going to be the first person to drop all the pretense and simply draw an ASCII hand to jerk off Yahtzee with?
 

CAW4

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Shamanic Rhythm said:
Frederick II said:
I'm going to wait here for you to link to where he's made this same analogy before.

Waiting.
Go to the list of ZP videos. Close your eyes and click randomly. Done.

BTW, the "waiting" joke isn't funny if it's in the same post.
 

winter2

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As an American I must confess that I find a lot of humor in how many people got their feelings hurt by that ONE joke. I also have a feeling I know those people's political affiliation.
 

DirkLarien

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this was one of most honest reviews for this game i read(heard) so far.
Thank you.
Was great and fun. As usual
 

KidKarolus

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winter2 said:
As an American I must confess that I find a lot of humor in how many people got their feelings hurt by that ONE joke. I also have a feeling I know those people's political affiliation.
I think this has a lot less to do with political affiliation and a lot more to do with what amounts to Yahtzee pulling a cheap shot to garner points from the non-American crowd. As I noted earlier, America has a lot of big, dangerous, doomsday inducing weaponry. The motivation is simple; who give a crap about fixing debt when you hold the world hostage with enough firepower to turn the surface of the planet into a Fallout style wasteland?
 

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CAW4 said:
Shamanic Rhythm said:
Frederick II said:
I'm going to wait here for you to link to where he's made this same analogy before.

Waiting.
Go to the list of ZP videos. Close your eyes and click randomly. Done.

BTW, the "waiting" joke isn't funny if it's in the same post.
There's only one other video where he calls anything a gorilla.
 

KidKarolus

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Shamanic Rhythm said:
CAW4 said:
Shamanic Rhythm said:
Frederick II said:
Snip
Go to the list of ZP videos. Close your eyes and click randomly. Done.

BTW, the "waiting" joke isn't funny if it's in the same post.
There's only one other video where he calls anything a gorilla.
I am unsure whether you intentionally misinterpret or not. The gorilla point is moot, the point made is that Yahtzee loves to make fun of America almost to the exclusion of all other countries. Sure, there have been a few reviews where he has been harsh on other countries, but if one takes his entire body of work and looks at it side by side, he is incredibly unfavorable to America. It is old; it was funny the first time, maybe the third time, but after the the tenth time, the joke starts to wear thin. I said earlier that I have no problem with sarcastic remarks made about America (and I usually don't), but for God's sake, this is getting ridiculous.

Yahtzee makes fun of America at every opportunity he gets, even when it is hardly topical. It is an easy target because America is not beloved oversees, but I expect more from him; I expect the same inventiveness he showed in earlier reviews, and not insipid jokes about America just because it is easy to target
 

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Frederick II said:
I am unsure whether you intentionally misinterpret or not. The gorilla point is moot, the point made is that Yahtzee loves to make fun of America almost to the exclusion of all other countries. Sure, there have been a few reviews where he has been harsh on other countries, but if one takes his entire body of work and looks at it side by side, he is incredibly unfavorable to America. It is old; it was funny the first time, maybe the third time, but after the the tenth time, the joke starts to wear thin. I said earlier that I have no problem with sarcastic remarks made about America (and I usually don't), but for God's sake, this is getting ridiculous.

Yahtzee makes fun of America at every opportunity he gets, even when it is hardly topical. It is an easy target because America is not beloved oversees, but I expect more from him; I expect the same inventiveness he showed in earlier reviews, and not insipid jokes about America just because it is easy to target
I thought we were done fighting. Do I need to send you another banana?
 

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Shamanic Rhythm said:
I thought we were done fighting. Do I need to send you another banana?
I am truly sorry, I did not mean to fight; I thought you misunderstood, so i wished to help and further your understanding, but a cookie might be nice.
 

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I'm a little sick of him insulting Americans (I'm allowed to like my country, even if it is America) but whatever, I'll keep watching as long as he keeps them informative and funny. He hit right on with my interpretation of the game, yeah it's fun making Sam do cool stuff, but the game seems like it does way to much for you. I guess I would say it is to context sensitive you just have to hit the correct button in the correct position and watch what happens. Kind of like Heavy Rain, I guess, but it lacks the hook of having consequences for your choices and mistakes.
 

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Imp goes AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA That was really funny.

Nice review. Although you didn't actually say the length of the game I expected to.
 

ldwater

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Good fun as always Yahtzee.

I did really like SCC and was expecting you to rip on the plot a little more since it did seem a little less clever than the previous games with Tom Clancy being a master of military / political fiction the plot would have made a bad Micheal Bay movie, laden with PMCs who are more than happy to betray the good old US of A for a bit of cash.

I was also dissapointed with the reduction of stealth and although the 'execute' system is a fun way to empty a room it still felt like playing the game with auto aim on. The new 'context sensitive' interaction system is a bit annoying as pointed out - I found the funniest part is when your in a cut scene (like talking to Victor) and press jump Sam does this funny little half jump like hes doing squats or something :p

Most of the guns are useless as pointed out and I played the entire game with the same pistol and 1 or 2 changes of the main weapon - personally I think they only have all the weapons for the kids to pew pew on multiplayer.

Personally I am looking forward to the book as I find the fiction of Splinter Cell much more rewarding than the games
 

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Frederick II said:
winter2 said:
As an American I must confess that I find a lot of humor in how many people got their feelings hurt by that ONE joke. I also have a feeling I know those people's political affiliation.
I think this has a lot less to do with political affiliation and a lot more to do with what amounts to Yahtzee pulling a cheap shot to garner points from the non-American crowd. As I noted earlier, America has a lot of big, dangerous, doomsday inducing weaponry. The motivation is simple; who give a crap about fixing debt when you hold the world hostage with enough firepower to turn the surface of the planet into a Fallout style wasteland?
Humor is subjective. The more you whine, the more foreigners see us as overly sensitive 'BE NICE WE CAN'T TAKE CRITICISM WE'RE TAKING OUR BALL AND LEAVING' sorts.

I'm American. I found it hilarious. You're American, you didn't. He makes fun of Australia's game censoring and government ALL THE TIME- you're just trying to play us as the poor victim and coming off as a self-righteous person who can't take a damn joke.


Edit: And what's wrong with him directing his jokes to the non-American crowds? There are other people on the planet, you know. It's vaguely refreshing to see THEM addressed rather than us- and unfortunately, that IS how a lot of the world sees us. Do I think it's right that they see us that way? No, but I can understand WHY they see us that way.