Zero Punctuation: Spore

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Snidenightshade

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Sweet! ii havent tried spore before and hoped to if i can be bothered getting it. the sims i hate that seires cause you wait or em to get back and then go go angry
 

MarcusStrout

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Wow, what?

There's definitely a lag in the way Yahtzee has been reviewing lately, but its not unacceptable. It seems that the little bashing that is going on here (what there can be without bannage or smiting or whatever) is focused on the fact that he is less funny. I mean, yeah, the no may have been filler, but at least it was placed correctly. And it was only 15 seconds, it just seems long next to his mile-a-minute monologue most of the time.

Keep it up, Yahtzee. Keep it up.
 

boholikeu

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MarcoTenshi said:
Are you saying spore isnt a game? If so then it fine. If it is a game, its shit. It lacks gameplay, games require gameplay to be defined as such. That seems pretty straightforward ffs!

Spore is a creature design package pretending (very very very badly) to be a game. If it didnt pretend it was a game noone would care. But it does and therefor is open to criticism.
Here's a hint: there are other types of gameplay besides action and strategy.

Spore is very much a game. Just because it's based on a gameplay mechanic you don't like doesn't mean the game sucks.
 

Corven

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fish food carl post=6.71753.744335 said:
I honestly liked spore though it could do with a bit, a very big bit, of fleshing out, but the creature creator is fun just to muck about on.
just wait for the inevitable 16 expansion packs that will come out for it.
 

Duskwaith

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He could have just stuck the "NOOOO" on a loop to get the 15secs?

Wasnt that funny to be honest, all the old reviwes where funny and sharp the new ones on other hand i get the impression that he is just trying to hard to get laughs and trying to find faults in a game and its not just me, a few die hards i know are going that way.

And i signed up to say this.
 

rapidoud

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I loved Spore, but many did not. So it's not really funny when he doesn't like a game when everybody else doesn't.

Like if he did star wars the force unleashed, that is filled with invisible walls that kill you.

Oh, and Spore kinda is a 3d design program, but according to wiktionary, a game is "A pursuit or activity with rules performed either alone or with others, for the purpose of entertainment."
Spore is a game.

So technically, alot of things can be games. Spore is good. Goodbye].
 

boholikeu

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Ragdrazi said:
And of course I wasn't saying any of that. Its clear I was responding to someone who thought the 3D design mechanic was the game's driving force.

But to a certain extent you're right. In that attaching 5 poor rip offs of other games to a 3D design tool is going to make people want to be creative, want to design interesting things. There's so little in this consumer culture that makes people want to use their imaginations and create something unique and their own. I'm not going to fault Spore for that.

But a 3D design program is not a game.
3D design alone is not a game, but when it's within a certain framework, it can be considered gameplay. Like you said above, the addition of certain mini-games in Spore drives a player to create things, and as such I think you can safely call creation in Spore gameplay. If you don't, then you'll really have to narrow your definition of what a game is. Take accounting and micromanagement for example. I don't consider crunching numbers in Excel to be gameplay, but when people do it in Sim games, RTS games and RPGs it definitely is.

rapidout said:
Oh, and Spore kinda is a 3d design program, but according to wiktionary, a game is "A pursuit or activity with rules performed either alone or with others, for the purpose of entertainment."
Spore is a game.

So technically, alot of things can be games. Spore is good. Goodbye].
This guy gets it. The above definition also validates content creation as gameplay.
 

Heddon

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I'm not aware that the word "civilization" did not exist in the English language until Sid Meier used it.

Yahtzee, you are getting lazy. You're starting to state the obvious. But what's worse, you're starting to think with all the reactionary judgementalism of an ordinary gamer. You're just more clever in how you deliver it.

Let's see some real insight.
 

Heddon

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Also, you little sheep out there, you may think of getting Spore and making up your own mind about it. I haven't gotten it yet, but I am suspicious of people who just buy other peoples' opinions without thinking for themselves.
 

penischomp

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No, that was not good, the steady decline just fuck tumbled into a stale and repetative end. I have no idea why game develpers and gamers like Yahtzee. He publicly humiliates games by blowing there minor problems way out of fucking proportion, he judges games before he plays them and half arses the entire fucking game anyway. And then you fuckers who listen to him eat it up! You actually take his words into consideration! When I go to a game store, I never, not once thought "Oh well, Yahtzee said that game was bad, I probably shant buy it."

Jesus Christ.
 

JimbobDa3rd

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Any chance of getting the video as a podcast on i-tunes (or somewhere else for download)

oh, and to all the people going on about the resent poor quality of reviewing, just remember what made it funny in the first place (the naughty language and the immature rips on modern gaming) and watch it again, its all still there just cause youve matured and dont find the word titty funny anymore doesnt mean you have to ***** on about a video you get for free from some guy who has enogh time in the week to play through a entire game, find ways to work the words cock and fuck/ing into a game review and create a hundred cartoons on paint (or photoshop) then smack it all into windows movie maker and post it online just so geeks all around the world can have a geeky little laugh about their geeky little world.

One last thing how the hell can u get batman in the Sims i must of played it for 30/40 hrs and managed to miss it
 

Vicious Hallway

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I've put off purchasing this game, and I'm sort of glad I have. I have friends who practically mess their pants in sheer delight telling me how addictive it is, and others who have played it and claim they would find watching paint dry to be a more entertaining use of time. All this review has done is confirm what the latter category has been telling me all along.