Zero Punctuation: The Conduit
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I have a Wii which I only use for gamecube games making it a expensive gamecube with "motion sensors" and is it just me or did yahtzee keep going slightly more British throughout.
I hate how he's always thrashing on the wii. I may get a lot of hate for this but I don't care. I've been watching these reviews for some time now and just signed up so that I could start making comments. Sure the wii has it's faults and may only be good at certain games but the xbox/xbox 360 and ps2/ps3 don't have much besides fps and sandbox games. Since games came out they have been just like xbox and ps whatever just push buttons and move with a joystick. The wii is trying something new. You know what the word means right "new" as in hasn't been perfected. It needs time and if they can't get it they'll probably change it for the furture. Yahztee complaining about the wii haveing bad controls is like saying Donkey Kong had bad graphics it was new! Besides I have to admit even with all of its faults The wii is still my favorite system becuase it doesn't do the same stuff that all the other games in history have done. If the remote doesn't react like it's supposed to then can't you just test it for a few minutes to see how it will react? The few wii games I have I've mastered. Wii sports over 2000 on all sports, ssbb... well since I am what many would call poor, even though it's middle class, I don't like using batteries and at the time didn't have a charge station so i just used gamecube remote and the game is still fun if you play with people after unlocking most of the stuff.(I'll give you that one but it at least has a reason to play). Okay so I only have those but I've played many with friends and if you swing around and say it's not working right and quit trying no duh you're not going to like it. It's more of a challenge to try to figure the game out first before you expect to be good at it. Ok if you see this Yahztee then I have to admit since you have to pretty much beat a game a week you don't have enough time (unless playing games is all you do which i hope isn't true) but getting people to side with you about rying to beat a game half-fast isn't right.
Cryo84R
You put CDs called "games" into it you control the games with a "controller" it can be called the same thing unlike toilets that you put... are you allowed to cuss on this site? well toilets that you put stuff you no longer what into them and washer/dryers that you only put things in to get back clean.
You put CDs called "games" into it you control the games with a "controller" it can be called the same thing unlike toilets that you put... are you allowed to cuss on this site? well toilets that you put stuff you no longer what into them and washer/dryers that you only put things in to get back clean.
Of course your allowed to fucking curse! Just not directly at people. And don't say anything you think will be offensive either.itsme0 said:
We try our best to play fair with each other but there are going to be people who are going to disagree and what not, so try to keep it civil.
All consoles are toys. The PS3 and 360 are used primarily for games, and games are toys. That doesn't make it a bad thing to enjoy them, it's perfectly fine to enjoy playing games.xdiesp said:
If this is meant as an insult, I just have one thing to say:
There are plenty of good games on the Wii and many can be quite enjoyable to everyone. If you think that there is something wrong with the Wii as a console, you are fucking deluding yourself. I'm not saying that you can't dislike the console. I'm saying that many people like it the way it is and there's not a damn thing you can do about it, so shut the fuck up.
Thank you, Yahtzee, for tearing to shreds a game I had low hopes for.
On a side note, has anyone else noticed any similarities to Mass Effect?
From Wikipedia- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conduit
The campaign storyline focuses on an alien invasion of Washington, D.C. in the near future. The alien race, known as the Drudge, uses the eponymous portal-like Conduits to deploy their forces throughout the city. A shadow government organization called the Trust sends newly inducted agent Michael Ford into the area initially to disrupt a terrorist threat, but he quickly becomes embroiled in the fight to stop the invasion and save the capital from destruction.
Replace Washington, D.C. with Citadel Space; replace "Drudge" with "Geth"; replace "Conduits" (although it is a plot point in ME) with "mass relays"; replace "city" with "galaxy"; replace "the Trust" with "the Council"; replace "agent" with "Spectre", then substitute the American name for another; replace "capital" with "Citadel".
And you get something like <spoiler=this> The campaign storyline focuses on an alien invasion of Citadel space in the near future. The alien race, known as the Geth, uses the eponymous portal-like mass relays to deploy their forces throughout the galaxy. A shadow government organization called the Council sends newly inducted SPECTRE Commander Shepard into the area initially to disrupt a terrorist threat, but he quickly becomes embroiled in the fight to stop the invasion and save the Citadel from destruction.
P.S. I guess both games have a main antagonist with unique names that just so happen to both go rogue, defect to the other side, and lead said invasion?
P.P.S. The deathmatch variant is named "Team Reaper"; Reapers are the overall main baddies of the game- the Geth are just pawns.
On a side note, has anyone else noticed any similarities to Mass Effect?
From Wikipedia- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conduit
The campaign storyline focuses on an alien invasion of Washington, D.C. in the near future. The alien race, known as the Drudge, uses the eponymous portal-like Conduits to deploy their forces throughout the city. A shadow government organization called the Trust sends newly inducted agent Michael Ford into the area initially to disrupt a terrorist threat, but he quickly becomes embroiled in the fight to stop the invasion and save the capital from destruction.
Replace Washington, D.C. with Citadel Space; replace "Drudge" with "Geth"; replace "Conduits" (although it is a plot point in ME) with "mass relays"; replace "city" with "galaxy"; replace "the Trust" with "the Council"; replace "agent" with "Spectre", then substitute the American name for another; replace "capital" with "Citadel".
And you get something like <spoiler=this> The campaign storyline focuses on an alien invasion of Citadel space in the near future. The alien race, known as the Geth, uses the eponymous portal-like mass relays to deploy their forces throughout the galaxy. A shadow government organization called the Council sends newly inducted SPECTRE Commander Shepard into the area initially to disrupt a terrorist threat, but he quickly becomes embroiled in the fight to stop the invasion and save the Citadel from destruction.
P.S. I guess both games have a main antagonist with unique names that just so happen to both go rogue, defect to the other side, and lead said invasion?
P.P.S. The deathmatch variant is named "Team Reaper"; Reapers are the overall main baddies of the game- the Geth are just pawns.
LOL at the review
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I'm surprised you're so quick to be such an obvious troll after only two posts. I wonder if you've been banned for something? Not that you'd admit it if it were true, so you'd be hard pressed to convince me to believe otherwise.Tiakinz said:
Your steadfast hatred of the Wii implies that you probably don't know enough about it to really have a decent trustworthy opinion, in much the same way I haven't ever played halo, and can therefore say nothing as to its merits or faults. However, what I can say is what statistics say, and statistics say that more people have a wii. What I can also say is that the Wii does not have a very strong lineup of games for someone who plays them quickly and constantly. For someone with a life outside of gaming, say, a person with a job (me in the summer) or a person in college (me otherwise) this generally isn't the case. For us, there are enough genuinely amazing games (not just my own opinion, but the shared opinion of friends, acquaintances, and, more importantly, many critics alike) to last plenty long enough, and they're piling up even, waiting to be played, and I want to play them all. Furthermore, graphics aren't entirely controlled by a system. As was shown by a variety of games on all systems, it's really the developers that have the most control of how the graphics on any given console can be made to look their best. And graphics are really generally not enough of an issue to be bothered by, unless they're particularly noticeably bad. And no, the good wii games are not that.
I will now take a moment to pick apart your statement and find all the things that are wrong with it.
You say that the wii isn't a good system, but I think that given the amount of people saying otherwise and the enjoyment my friends and I get playing it prove that not to be the case. Yes, there are games that are "good for the wii," but there are also games that are "good". It has genuinely good games. Even Yahtzee's admitted that, and on multiple occasions, usually in areas other than Zero Punctuation, but occasionally there too. Your use of the word "amusing" implies that you think you're somehow more intelligent than, and above people who, own a wii, which is a very egotistical and shallow thing to think. It implies that you've viewed from a distance, but never actually attempted to enjoy the wii, because of that formerly mentioned state of mind. Plenty of us play all the consoles, especially in a college environment (I know that's the second time I've brought that up - I'm not trying to shield behind that fact, it's just that it makes a good example and statistic sample), and have therefore had enough experience to formulate a good opinion on all consoles. Naturally, this becomes biased based on your closer friends, so if all your friends like the PS3 and make fun of the Wii, you probably will too, much like how in high school for me everyone had the same console and everyone who didn't was wrong for some reason. You keep saying things like "wiiwhores," which gives me pause to wonder if you didn't notice that not everyone defending the wii made an invalid argument, in much the same way that most of the people who attack it do. It also supports my theory of your opinion I got from the word amuse. And, as a good segway from that, those attacking the wii, "open mockery/telling them they're wrong" is a poor argument, and one that is generally formed when the attacker can't think of any other reasons to support his own view, much the same way politicians attack each others' credibility when there's nothing wrong with their opponents' policies. Next, you seem to be confusing the meanings of "listen" and "becoming convinced." I listen to the ideas my friends have about studying. They're all different. I don't agree with all of them. But I listened to them. After hearing them, I decided, based on my listening, that I would disagree with most of them and only agree with my friend who got good grades all the time.
Finally, to say that it doesn't "bother you none" is quite an apparent hypocritical and commonly used argumentative shield, that is used to make the poster feel as though he isn't taking the argument as seriously as a fanboy, when he most definitely is, otherwise the comment would be unnecessary. If it doesn't bother you, you wouldn't have posted that in a REPLY to your previous post. Clearly, something bothered you a bit.
And another thing: the first thing I said in my quote of your post was in agreement to something you said - that you shouldn't have to adjust default settings to make a game playable. I agreed with you, and then you called people who defend the wii idiots (or implied it, anyway). What's that say about you? Hmm?
Maybe you should have done more listening. And also, don't do this: <3. It makes it hard to take you seriously if you're trying to make a point.
very true Yahtzee comparing the Wii to the xbox and Ps3 is never going to happen its games can only be called "good" for a Wii game. Any Game besides the name brand Wii games would do much better on a 360 or Ps3 yes motion controls were a good idea at the start but now it just seems like a chore and now it is really safe to say that the Wii is dead. It truely can not compare to 360 or Ps3 in anyway.
Cryo84R said:
Ok since you didn't realize the implied meaning I meant that it was designed to do that stuff unlike an air conditioner that was never designed to drive. and the wii is a video game no matter how bad some people dislike it. according to wikipedia: "A video game is an electronic game that involves interaction with a user interface to generate visual feedback on a video device."
What? really? That's not the way I would put it because that seems like it implies dvds are games too or somehitng of the sort? all well thats just the opening rule anyways...
Stop trying to insult the wii by saying examples of what devices used in an entirely wrong way the wii was designed to play games which it does, the air conditioner blows cold air which it does. saying I could put wheels and an engine on it won't make it drive is like saying you can't put a wii in an oven and expect a gourmet meal. The wii does exactly what it was designed for with only a little trouble from the controller and if you people weren't so impatient with it you might enjoy the challenge.
p.s. That last comment was not for the people who already like the wii or for people that did give it an honest go got it then decided that they didn't like it.