Zero Punctuation: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D

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FinalHeart95

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I just beat/played it for the first time earlier this month and I still think it's better than Twilight Princess. So I don't think nostalgia's a big factor there, and that was the Virtual Console version.

Anyway, the water temple can either be really easy or really bullshit depending on the person. The boss is easy, but if you forget to search one corner (not even room, just corner of a room) you're fucked. The other pain in my ass was trying to get to the Spirit Temple as I couldn't fucking see the flags I needed to run to. I must've spent an hour on just that. And I know my friend hated the Shadow Temple, but all the Redeads probably didn't help.

Also, z-targeting is brilliant. Especially since you don't have to hold it in this one, unless the 3DS version is different than the virtual console one. It might be, I'm not sure.

Of course, Yahtzee probably isn't even serious, so this whole post was for naught.
 

Pedro Negrin

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I agree that N64 games have not aged well (of course they are stil playable), as the years pass we can make more complex games(Galaxy better than 64, TP better but copied from OoT), The point being that nostalgia is a blinding ***** and pepole should just see that games of before don't comparee to today standards.

Also I myself find Link bland in this one, but I do enjoy the story and that Zelda actually does shit for onece; at the end of the day I enjoy my memories, I still revisist it to enjoy the story, but its overated.
 

Android2137

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Yahtzee, it wasn't that the Water Temple was difficult. It was that it was annoying, especially with the flooding mechanic.

Also, which room was the one what wouldn't give a cutscene until you entered through the correct door? Was it the volcano to the Fire Temple?
 

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Scrumpmonkey said:
I have more concern about skyward swrond since it really looks like it sticks horribly close to the Oot formula, well apart from the slightly ugly art stlye...
Not a fan of impressinism?
 

isnosche

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seriously can't be bothered :s might buy skyward sword and that will be my second zelda game :D
 

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Delicious Anathema said:
Zelda is so tired by now, even Skyward Sword seems like the same old thing over again.

They should remake Majora's Mask with a decent gameplay and flow, instead of the frustrating mess it was, because the story was there.
I don't recall ever being frustrated.

Also why look up a strategy guide for a game that has one right outside your house?

My captcha is requiring me to watch a stupid video...

I liked the book one better.
 

Waddles

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Goldeneye is and always will be the best fps of all time!

It's a bit difficult to go back and play something thats basically 13 years old but the original Ocarina of Time is still probably the most immersive game I've ever played. I still bust out the n64 to play it every couple of months
 

scorptatious

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Didn't expect you to review this game Yahtzee.

As much as I think OOT is a really good game, I personally thought Majora's Mask was the better of the two. MM had a better story, better cast of characters, and the three day mechanic is one of the most unique mechanics I've seen in a game. Every single person in that game performed actions depending on what time and day it is. And the entire time the moon descends closer and closer upon Clock Town.

Although I will admit OOT had the better dungeons. Including the Water Temple, which wasn't so much hard as it was tedious.
 

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so does that mean i don't have to play it now?
i mean i played zelda 1 and 2, link's awakening, OoA/S, minish cap, link to the past, majora's mask, wind waker, twilight princess

is it that much different from those?
maybe if they do a complete remake with up to date graphics and additional content i'll consider
 
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Funnily enough I have a N64 with OoT and Golden Eye sitting in a corner at the other side of the room gathering dust, staring at me, whispering "play me, please, all my games classics that certainly haven't aged badly at all, and don't look like a sh*t stain in comparison to last gen games".
 

Stabby Joe

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Hmmm, I wonder if this thread will spark as much needless fanboy rage as prior videos on popular long time franchises

I hadn't played OoT prior to the 3DS and yes, it is the template. Now on one hand I can see how this was a very much hailed game for its time but having played the numerous upgrades since, the impact is completely lost on me. Basically it has to be a nostalgia thing I suppose, but don't get me wrong, it is still a great game.

As for getting into it, I found that Link's Awakening on the Gameboy was the quickest and easiest for that.
 

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Water dungeon was difficult for, one, the fact that you had to figure out which level you were supposed to be on at what time, and then how to get that level filled (or unfilled) with water at that particular time. That and it's the only level that you can seriously ruin your game on; If you hookshot over to the wrong door early by standing really close to the ledge you can use up a silver key that's needed to get to two other silver keys, thereby making the level, and therefore your game, impossible to finish.

That and water is always fun to try and navigate through.

Admittedly, however, it is a lot easier now that I'm 21 when I go back and play it. Still an awesome game though.
 

Frank_Sinatra_

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Squilookle said:
While all those may be valid points, I'd like to point out that the N64 controller pretty much ruins all of them.
Sure the gameplay may be fun and all that, but it's a fleeting kind of fun when you're constantly wrestling with the damned controller.
 

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Is there an actual fucking "review" in here, or just admission that Yahtzee had a questionable basis of comparison for Twilight Princess? Really, I was surprised when I found out that Yahtzee was going to waste his time (and mine) talking about a remake. But then it turned out to be a remake from a series he overtly hates to begin with.

So, rather than get any sort of "review", we just get the usual "I hate Zelda. I know you all know that already, but I hate Zelda." So rather than establishing anything worth discussing, he just filibustered for a week.

Bravo.

This shit wasn't worth tanking the performance of the entire site today.
 

StriderShinryu

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So, basically, Yahtzee discovered the Nintendo formula. Make one game, or variation on a franchise, and then do nothing but iterate on it for 20 years. My only question is: why did it take him so long?