Zero Punctuation: Top 5 of 2010

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Ghored

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There were probably worse games than Bioshock 2 and FFXIII (didn't hate them. But felt like something was missing from both of them.), but other than that, the list of terrible games is pretty much right, by me, anyways.


And I can support every top 5 best games of 2010. Because, well, they may not be the best to everyone, but they are all good.
 

duchaked

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looking back at 2010 I tried out FFXIII and really did wanna like it...
but now I realize that I had stopped playing the game around the 5 hour mark and...yeah I don't really want to touch it again... =/
 

iamultraman

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Well this is long overdue but sometimes you have to defend yourself if only to give yourself a semblance of self-respect...

"Also that's complete bull. If you're going to say stories need you to feel good in the end, you're limiting stories so much. Ironic you'd use Macbeth as an example when that story does nothing but make you feel awful in the finale. PS, themes and morals are the base for good story, otherwise you're just tossing things at a wall and seeing what sticks."--LackingSaint

When I said "A good story is something that makes you feel good at the end", I didn't necessarily say that it had to incorporate a happy ending (I actually hate happy endings incredibly, so that was missing the point entirely). I meant to say that a good story makes you feel like your time wasn't spent, specifically in this case, your time wasn't spent on listening to someone's bullshit moral message. Endgame didn't make any sense to me, but in the end the experience was so delightful that I, unquestionably, have to praise it.

Also, when you say "themes and morals are the base for good story", I think of James Joyce, a writer who never bothered with the themes or morals and turned out to be one of the 20th century's finest writers. And J.D Salinger. And probably tons of other writers I've never read. Most good story-tellers generally write about humanity, and bother little with morals and themes. It's the critic's job to translate all of that writing and convert it to something usable. (And Joseph Heller, now that I think about it) So that is that. Also Macbeth made me feel happy at the end. He finally stopped being a pussy and accepted his disaster with great courage. An magnificently well-thought tragic hero.

"If your problem is that the main storyline was the /only/ thing, and that you weren't a "grain of sand in a macrocosm" then I'd have to disagree. It's easy enough to just look around and see that the state of the city has changed, that the splicers have adapted and altered the environment to better survive. There are potential stories in every stray corpse you pass. Clearly the developers cared very much and put in a lot of effort to make it seem like the city was still functioning even as it was dying."--Honeyfish

I was trying to relate your experience to Rapture to that of a journey into a mythic land, but I didn't make it easy did I? Sorry? In the first, by the atmosphere and the characters, you were really nothing. You were like Theseus; small in comparison to the massive, bewildering Gods and monsters. Rapture in the second Bioshock was fleshed out--for good or bad--indeed, but it didn't keep that tone. In about every story, every person dealing with the Devil becomes nothing more than a puppet under his control. That's how the first was like; tossing and turning on a wave, never knowing when the lightning strikes. The second didn't seem to grasp that and it failed in my eyes. In the end, I wanted my moment of electricity, a thunderbolt of surprise and anxiety and diminishment (is that a word?), but it didn't come.
 

silverleaf81

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I've only played the demo of Just Cause 2, and i love it! The story is bad, the voice acting is laughable, but it all gets drained out by the awesomeness of hanging onto helicopters while shooting them to destroy it. Just Cause 2 obviously is for people who don't love games for the story. This game is for people who love a little bit of crazy grittiness that games originally were.
 

Juqu

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silverleaf81 said:
The story is bad, the voice acting is laughable, but it all gets drained out by the awesomeness of hanging onto helicopters while shooting them to destroy it.
Agreed.
I got just cause 2 today myself and story seems really weak.
Action may still make the the game worth it's price (19.95e)
But in my opinion it isn't best game released in 2010.

This was first time I bought game based solely on Zero punctuation review.
should have probably checked other sources too.
 

silverleaf81

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Juqu said:
silverleaf81 said:
The story is bad, the voice acting is laughable, but it all gets drained out by the awesomeness of hanging onto helicopters while shooting them to destroy it.
Agreed.
I got just cause 2 today myself and story seems really weak.
Action may still make the the game worth it's price (19.95e)
But in my opinion it isn't best game released in 2010.

This was first time I bought game based solely on Zero punctuation review.
should have probably checked other sources too.

I guess the experience is different for people...i also forgot to mention how big the world was.
 

Colest

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Call me crazy, but I liked The Force Unleashed 2. The core game was extremely short but, as a avid Star Wars nerd, I rather enjoyed the story and think that if anything that was the game's strongest point next to its visuals. With the DLC being a dollar that tacks on another couple hours to the gameplay. So it's about the length of any other Hack'n'Slasher with core and DLC included.

Along with the frequent gripes of Bioshock 2 being on the bad list and Just Cause 2 being number 1 on the good list, I agreed with his selections mostly.
 

Enflame12

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i know you may have been drunk, but the only 4 you got right there were "Just Cause 2" "Dead Rising 2" "Metroid other M" and "Kane & Lynch 2" :p

Generally because i think that Bioshock 2, Final Fantasy 13 and Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 were by far not the WORST games of the year, they definately could of used some polishing but they were enjoyable and i actually bothered to complete them (however little effort it took)...

Otherwise i don't understand how you can post an indie game as the top 4th and 5th, i know they're good, however in my personal opinion they weren't top 5 worthy.

One more thing is that, Red Dead Redemption was an interesting game, but it soon got boring for me, most of missions i could actually skip by holding down the gallop button and watching Television, as it followed the NPC's around the map for an hour or two. the combat was a little shabby but decent, yet not particularly enthralling... also with the tedious repeats of missions, "Follow this guy" "kill his enemy" "save the girl" i got no real sense of feeling or immersion.

But this is just my personal opinion :)
 

Waif

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I can agree with many of the placements. Though I kinda wonder what 2011 will hold ^~^.
 

SilentSh0tz

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FF13 sucked, like most of your choices Yahtzee.. Bioshock 2 was a pretty big disappointment compared to Bioshock. Why I say FF13 sucked is because Final Fantasy doesn't know what they're doing story wise anymore, they've lost the spark they had with games like FF7, FF8. It's more of a cutscenes than a game now; and if they wanted that, they should just make another movie.
 

Apature_Science

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Do you not think that a free roaming game can have too large an area? After I completed the story of Just Cause 2 I tried to increase the % completement, but it took at least an hour a percent. WAY Too many fiddly things to do!

Great Episode as usual!
 

Xman490

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Well, I finally played all of the Top 5 here, unless you don't count Case West as the miserly man's Dead Rising 2. I sort of wish Case West was longer (it took an hour less than Limbo's evening).

And making my situation even more in "smiley town", I got them all, except for Red Dead, 50% off the standard prices. Just Cause 2 was $30 as a download I got last night.
 

YodaUnleashed

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I don't fully understand Yahtzee, he advocates the importance of story in games and yet makes his top two games of the year ones with a minimal amount of story (good or otherwise). Maybe he just thought none of the games of the year where story was at the fore were all that good (yeah that's probably it). Ah well, at least he gave me a new word to add to my ever-growing list: saccharine.
 

Xman490

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I just noticed that most of the Top 5 have emphases on corpses, except of course Just Cause and except maybe Red Dead. Oh, and I'm getting Off The Record 1/2 off, which is technically Dead Rising 2 with a third eye.