Zimmerman is recieving donations for his crime.

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idarkphoenixi

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/10/george-zimmerman-launches-website-in-appeal-for-donations/

Only just heard about this, and I don't even know what to say at this point. I really am just amazed that he hasn't been arrested and it's taking the attention of millions of people just to get an investigation. The kid was armed with skittles and iced-tea, he had a gun, and apparently he felt so threatened that he just had to shoot him dead. It really does show just how little people have advanced since the days of slavery.

Now it seems things have hit a new low. Zimmerman has launched a website (confirmed by his lawyer) and will be accepting donations, however large or small, in order to cover his living and legal expenses.



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Forgetitnow344

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I'm not justifying his actions in any way, but the reasoning behind this page seems sound. If someone REALLY IS profiting from this by pretending to be this guy and accepting donations for his defense fund, that's wrong and it should be stopped. If someone wants to give Zimmerman money for his defense, that's their prerogative. What's downright evil is trying to profit off of a murder case.
 

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The police really mishandled this case, but I'm not a fan of the lynch mob attitude that's been going on around the country about this guy. If he needs help covering his legal expenses, and he wants to open donations for them, then that's his right.

The only thing I find a bit tasteless is the American flag in the background. Like, supporting him is patriotic or something.
 

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ilovemyLunchbox said:
I'm not justifying his actions in any way, but the reasoning behind this page seems sound. If someone REALLY IS profiting from this by pretending to be this guy and accepting donations for his defense fund, that's wrong and it should be stopped. If someone wants to give Zimmerman money for his defense, that's their prerogative. What's downright evil is trying to profit off of a murder case.
dyre said:
The police really mishandled this case, but I'm not a fan of the lynch mob attitude that's been going on around the country about this guy. If he needs help covering his legal expenses, and he wants to open donations for them, then that's his right.

The only thing I find a bit tasteless is the American flag in the background. Like, supporting him is patriotic or something.
Normally I might agree but since it mentioned "living expenses", that makes things totally different. Because what counts as living expenses? Well, pretty much everything does: Food, clothes, heating bill, rent. Everything you need to live comfortably.

Hopefully, it's just an insane minority of people who donate. Maybe he can scrape together his earnings and buy a small tin of beans.
 

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idarkphoenixi said:
There's a perfectly good Trayvon Martin thread here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/528.355532-So-Trayvon-Martin-Updated-4-9] you can post this under.

Actually scratch that thread was already updated. Why don't you go discuss it there instead
 

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Quick, everyone get to his time machine from the 90's [http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/Home_Page.php] before the portal fades!

OT: is that absolutely definitely his website? From the way I understand the case the victim was not being as innocent as the media portrayed. He should still have been brought into custody though...he killed someone.
 

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Here's the thing, even if Trayvon Martin DID start the hostilities, Zimmerman was told in the 911 call to not follow Martin and allow the police to handle it, so either way I see him at fault.
 

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dyre said:
The police really mishandled this case, but I'm not a fan of the lynch mob attitude that's been going on around the country about this guy. If he needs help covering his legal expenses, and he wants to open donations for them, then that's his right.

The only thing I find a bit tasteless is the American flag in the background. Like, supporting him is patriotic or something.
I agree. I think the guy should be in jail, but she shouldn't be forced to leave his friends, family, job, and house because a bunch of people who are rightfully frustrated by the failings of the Florida justice system have decided to take the law into their own hands by harassing and threatening him. That's not right - and I understand why, when others have made him unable to support himself, he would ask for donations. He's still a murderer, but even murderers have the right to survive until they're sentenced instead of being executed in the court of public opinion.
 

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I still think he needs to be arrested and tried for murder, but making a fund for people to donate in his defense is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.
 

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That's the website? Blimey, that's one shitty looking website. A white text-box lazily pasted over some clip-art of a flag, classy.

Anyway, I don't see this as an issue. Not sure how useful the (as of now) 149 bucks he's recieved will be.
 

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First off I am white.

Second off, this guy deserves to be put into jail.

IF this black 17 year old child threatened his life, why in Gods name is it justified to kill him? He could have fired a warning shot, getting the kid to run away or something. This man KILLED a human being, defense or not, this is a crime and he should be punished.

What if he killed a white 17 year old? Do you think this would continue the way it is going?

I can't help but see that this whole incident is still being treated with disrespect and profiling. The man killed a teenager, case closed, throw the book at him for this act.
 

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None of us were there.

The best investigators are looking into what happened that night. The state attorney is involved. Let them determine justice.

And yes, this seems like a valid thing. It sounds like people are committing fraud by taking donations in his "defense." This prevents the fraud. Also, the dude is jobless. Lawyers don't stick around if you don't have money.

I feel bad for this guy to be honest. We live in America, where you are innocent until prove guilty.

It's not justice. It's sick and it's wrong. If he's proven guilty, then tear him to pieces. But until then, innocent until proven guilty.

You want to know why this is so big in the news? Because the media is making big bucks off of this story. Because public speakers know they can just point at the race differences and a dead kid, and know that people will love them, and their ratings will go up. It has nothing to do with justice.
 

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as far as I'm concerned this whole case has turned into a bloody lynching. I don't care if it was race inspired or not anymore. The way the media coverage of this case has gotten so many people out for his blood is sick.

it's not 'donations for his crime' legal fees are ridiculous and this case isn't going anywhere. he has every right to ask for help in his legal defense.

The case is now tried in the court of public opinion. good job media. well done.
 

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Prosis said:
None of us were there.

The best investigators are looking into what happened that night. The state attorney is involved. Let them determine justice.

And yes, this seems like a valid thing. It sounds like people are committing fraud by taking donations in his "defense." This prevents the fraud. Also, the dude is jobless. Lawyers don't stick around if you don't have money.

I feel bad for this guy to be honest. We live in America, where you are innocent until prove guilty.

It's not justice. It's sick and it's wrong. If he's proven guilty, then tear him to pieces. But until then, innocent until proven guilty.

You want to know why this is so big in the news? Because the media is making big bucks off of this story. Because public speakers know they can just point at the race differences and a dead kid, and know that people will love them, and their ratings will go up. It has nothing to do with justice.
This, entirely this.

As a non-American looking in at this story I can only conclude that if this was a white kid getting shot or a black man doing the shooting this would never have been heard about. Obama certainly wouldn't have been going on about "if I had a son". All I can see is Rev Jackson and Sharpton using this to get their face on tv and wind up the African-American community. Because we all know that any white guy killing a black guy is guilty of racism and african-american's don't get proper justice etc. but a black guy killing a white guy must have a motive besides race...
 

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Didn't he flee the country though?

Doubt he'll be found and tried if thats true.
 

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RaikuFA said:
Didn't he flee the country though?

Doubt he'll be found and tried if thats true.
Doesn't generally stop America from getting him though does it? Hell you don't even have to be in America when you commit a crime that's not against the county you're in's laws and they can still get you extradited apparently...
 

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KrossBillNye said:
First off I am white.

Second off, this guy deserves to be put into jail.

IF this black 17 year old child threatened his life, why in Gods name is it justified to kill him? He could have fired a warning shot, getting the kid to run away or something. This man KILLED a human being, defense or not, this is a crime and he should be punished.

What if he killed a white 17 year old? Do you think this would continue the way it is going?

I can't help but see that this whole incident is still being treated with disrespect and profiling. The man killed a teenager, case closed, throw the book at him for this act.
How naive, "warning shots" are never supposed to be fired, this isnt Hollywood shit doesn't happen like it does in the movies, and if he was being attacked by Trayvon, then he was well within his right to end the boys life due to the stand your ground law of Florida.

And if he killed a white 17 year old, those idiots at the NAACP wouldn't give a damn about it.
 

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cookyy2k said:
RaikuFA said:
Didn't he flee the country though?

Doubt he'll be found and tried if thats true.
Doesn't generally stop America from getting him though does it? Hell you don't even have to be in America when you commit a crime that's not against the county you're in's laws and they can still get you extradited apparently...
You are right, but if you flee the country and go into hiding your chances of being found are extremly slim.

Plus, it was racially motivated, he said the N word in the 911 call.
 

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cookyy2k said:
Prosis said:
None of us were there.

The best investigators are looking into what happened that night. The state attorney is involved. Let them determine justice.

And yes, this seems like a valid thing. It sounds like people are committing fraud by taking donations in his "defense." This prevents the fraud. Also, the dude is jobless. Lawyers don't stick around if you don't have money.

I feel bad for this guy to be honest. We live in America, where you are innocent until prove guilty.

It's not justice. It's sick and it's wrong. If he's proven guilty, then tear him to pieces. But until then, innocent until proven guilty.

You want to know why this is so big in the news? Because the media is making big bucks off of this story. Because public speakers know they can just point at the race differences and a dead kid, and know that people will love them, and their ratings will go up. It has nothing to do with justice.
This, entirely this.

As a non-American looking in at this story I can only conclude that if this was a white kid getting shot or a black man doing the shooting this would never have been heard about. Obama certainly wouldn't have been going on about "if I had a son". All I can see is Rev Jackson and Sharpton using this to get their face on tv and wind up the African-American community. Because we all know that any white guy killing a black guy is guilty of racism and african-american's don't get proper justice etc. but a black guy killing a white guy must have a motive besides race...
Zimmerman is not white. That is what really gets me annoyed about this non-story. The BBC in particular have delivered this story shamefully. People seem surprised when I tell them that Zimmerman is Latino, it seems to put a nasty halt on the 'evil white man' narrative they have constructed in their heads.