Zombies - the lessons taught to us by games.

[ffxfriek]

The first place i'd colonise when i was back would actually be somewhere like the Isle of Wight, create secure areas...clear the island and have lookout areas on the coasts to watch for submersed Zombies coming back from the water. See any, back on the boat.

I don't know, the isle of wight is a bit too... Hilly for my liking, seems likely that at least one would get on and jump out at you.
I live pretty close to the coast, I expect I could get some place safe to defend myself, although I've always thought that our school could be quite defendable against zombies tough you'd run out of food.

In the case of a zombie outbreak you're either going to:
Die at the start,
Die defending some place,
Hide and hope everything gets cleared up and it either does or,
You die.

I don't see that it's likely you're going to grow old and die peacefully during more or less any situation involving zombies.

nice and to the point...ill feel better knowing ILL DIE when there is a zombie attack

read these its basically saying there COULD BE a zombie outbreak in the future.
http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html

 

[Jursa]

Most zombies are slower while running than me while walking. Shooting the head should propably kill them, but I pick the Dead Space method, blow their leg off. Best thing to do would be to barricade yourself in a military warehouse. Enough bullets to kill the entire city and have some left over and enough no expiration date food to last more than a few years. Not to mention you can always climb onto crates where they can't reach.

 

[rossatdi]

5 words. 5 simple words.

House of the Dead Two.

"Shit, I'm outta ammo."
"Shoot outside the screen to reload!"
"Fuck...arrggghhgh!!!"

 

[Deathguy3]

] A longbow. All the deadliness of a gun, but without the noise. (You obviously weren't reading The ZSG very closely...).

I've read the guide too and Max has many things way out, not least about weapons.

A Longbow must be carried with the string off (to stop damage to the wood and wear on the string). Can barely be used in the rain. Is not overly accurate passed 20m. Is not heavy but is big, especially if trying to get through a small space. Directly contravenes his logic on the no long clothes or grabables, as a zombie could easily get a hold of a bow on your back very easily.

Not only that but they have a long travel time compared to bullets, are hugely effected by wind and tire the user out enormously.

No-one makes bows out of wood nowadays; they are made out of lightweight alloys, and fold up for easy storage.Yeah, sure you wouldn't be able to use it immediately, but I doubt that you'd be able to use a rifle in the same situation for the same reason (it must also be folded up for storage).

Dude I have a wooden bow, which I made on my own. Kinda flimsy though.

Bows will not be useful unless you are an expert. You have a better chance of hitting a zombie with a semi-automatic rifle

 

[Lukeje]

] A longbow. All the deadliness of a gun, but without the noise. (You obviously weren't reading The ZSG very closely...).

I've read the guide too and Max has many things way out, not least about weapons.

A Longbow must be carried with the string off (to stop damage to the wood and wear on the string). Can barely be used in the rain. Is not overly accurate passed 20m. Is not heavy but is big, especially if trying to get through a small space. Directly contravenes his logic on the no long clothes or grabables, as a zombie could easily get a hold of a bow on your back very easily.

Not only that but they have a long travel time compared to bullets, are hugely effected by wind and tire the user out enormously.

No-one makes bows out of wood nowadays; they are made out of lightweight alloys, and fold up for easy storage.Yeah, sure you wouldn't be able to use it immediately, but I doubt that you'd be able to use a rifle in the same situation for the same reason (it must also be folded up for storage).

Dude I have a wooden bow, which I made on my own. Kinda flimsy though.

Bows will not be useful unless you are an expert. You have a better chance of hitting a zombie with a semi-automatic rifle

That's one of the main reason why the book states 'bow' over 'rifle', to use either well requires practice, it's just the bow is quieter.

Yeah, sure you wouldn't be able to use it immediately, but I doubt that you'd be able to use a rifle in the same situation for the same reason (it must also be folded up for storage).

How many rifles do you fold up for storage? I disagree with a lot of what Max's says for the simply reason he hasn't thought out wearing a bow or rifle is as bad as a long coat.

Ahh, so you don't disagree on the rifle / bow argument, you're just saying that both are equally bad?

 

[rossatdi]

That's one of the main reason why the book states 'bow' over 'rifle', to use either well requires practice, it's just the bow is quieter.

Yes but the practice required to hit a target (ie head) at 20m with a rifle is substantially lower than to do the same with a bow. Time better spent improving stamina and strength since it's going to get down to hand to hand anyway.

 

[NeedAUserName]

To my knowledge, zombies can't cross water due to their physical incapabilities (rather than mystical protection like in some fantasy). Deep lakes, deep rivers and the open ocean are your friend.

They could just walk across the bottom of the sea, they wouldn't drown, and could turn fish into zombies while they were doing it.

 

[Johnn Johnston]

Zombies aren't much different from humans. All we are are brains, protected by a complex life support system. We can't live without fuel, Food, Air, Water.

Zombies have brains that keep on functioning even after the organs have been destroyed.

My feeble knowledge of biology is going to betray me here, but we need energy to move, right? That's why we eat food. Even if we don't need it to have functional brains. Without some way to get that energy, wouldn't the zombies simply stop moving?

Well, if it was a parasite infestation, the parasite would feed upon the zombie itself if no food was getting to it. So, while a zombie cannot starve, it can be eaten from the inside. I'd assume the parasite, due to its habit of living in the brain, would consume that first, causing the re-death of the zombie. Therefore, a lack of food can be indirectly responsible for killing a zombie.
[HEADING=2]Zombies: The more you know[/HEADING]

 

[Lukeje]

That's one of the main reason why the book states 'bow' over 'rifle', to use either well requires practice, it's just the bow is quieter.

Yes but the practice required to hit a target (ie head) at 20m with a rifle is substantially lower than to do the same with a bow. Time better spent improving stamina and strength since it's going to get down to hand to hand anyway.

Having never actually fired either, I can't really disprove your argument, but I can say that the sights, etc. for modern longbows are at least as good as for a rifle (as long as you know how to use them).

 

[rossatdi]

I'd assume the parasite, due to its habit of living in the brain, would consume that first, causing the re-death of the zombie. Therefore, a lack of food can be indirectly responsible for killing a zombie.

But I think it would be fair to say it's worth planning for at least a 5 year onslaught of the undead. By that point you're essentially going to be self-sufficient anyway (and maybe bagged your own Sarah Polley to repopulate the earth with).

 

[rossatdi]

Having never actually fired either, I can't really disprove your argument, but I can say that the sights, etc. for modern longbows are at least as good as for a rifle (as long as you know how to use them).

Have fired both, no. Longbows are considerable harder at 20m. Plus the sheer physical effort and time of pulling and loosing 5 arrows compared to say 10 shots is obscene.

 

[Solo508]

You Americans have it easy. If zombies break out us Brits will have to make crossbows or something.

 

[Johnn Johnston]

I'd assume the parasite, due to its habit of living in the brain, would consume that first, causing the re-death of the zombie. Therefore, a lack of food can be indirectly responsible for killing a zombie.

But I think it would be fair to say it's worth planning for at least a 5 year onslaught of the undead. By that point you're essentially going to be self-sufficient anyway (and maybe bagged your own Sarah Polley to repopulate the earth with).

Well, of course. How else will you survive until the last of the zombies either rots or is eaten from the inside?

If you need to use a car, take a Land Rover. It has more seats for survivors, and can go off-road for handy escapes or diversions around traffic jams or collapses.

 

[rossatdi]

You Americans have it easy. If zombies break out us Brits will have to make crossbows or something.

Don't know about you but there's a NATO base 10 minutes from my flat. Hello SA80s, good bye zombies. Also helps I've been given an hour's instruction on using the fiddly buggers.

 

[Jobz]

Wear tight fitting close and keep your hair short, the less things hanging off of you the harder you are to grab.

Your greatest defense against zombies is your ability to reason, use it to your advantage.

Your second greatest defense is speed, even at a light jog you'll be far faster than a zombie horde.

And the final tip, be careful using open flames. The only thing worse than a zombie coming at you is a flaming zombie coming at you.

 

[Danny Ocean]

You Americans have it easy. If zombies break out us Brits will have to make crossbows or something.

We're on an island, we're safe. Besides, stuff like this only ever happens in America.

Don't know about you but there's a NATO base 10 minutes from my flat. Hello SA80s, good bye zombies. Also helps I've been given an hour's instruction on using the fiddly buggers.

Hehehehehe,
I've got a Marine base, a commando base, the regimental headquarters of The Rifles, an air base, and about 4 CCfS. Which adds up to about 1000 guns, just on the kids in the cadet forces.
Phew, I can just sit back and let everyone else sort it.

 

[SwampCandle]

But if you've read World War Z, you'll know that a large problem came from zombies shuddering along the bottom of the Oshen.

Thank christ i'm not the only one whoread that!
Also, buying The Zombie Suzvival Guide (same author Max Brooks for those who don't know).

 

[ZonerZ]

Zombies taste excellent with some fava beans and a nice chianti. I like to make mine fresh, though, so keep sharp on your Touch of Death and Raise Undead spells (and fireball if you like yours crispy)

 

[rossatdi]

But if you've read World War Z, you'll know that a large problem came from zombies shuddering along the bottom of the Oshen.

Thank christ i'm not the only one whoread that!
Also, buying The Zombie Suzvival Guide (same author Max Brooks for those who don't know).

Max Brooks forgets the [a = http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheoryOfNarrativeCausality]theory of narrative causality[/a]. If the zombie apocalypse happens you (as the protagonist) won't witness it until the government's crumbled.