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Silvertongue

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I still enjoy ZP. But I'm the only one in my circle of friends still watching it, and even I think it's grown a bit stale. And I'm not even the one who introduced everyone to it. x3 On another note, I really like Unskippable. xD
 

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Amoreyna said:
cuddly_tomato said:
Kanashe said:
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I've noticed that people say that today's review was 'funny' and 'hilarious'. I'm sorry, but someones gone bat shit crazy. Either you guys, or me, I've wathed the entire review, four times and I haven't cracked a smile, hell not even a chuckel. I don't know when African jokes became the hip with the comedy bisnuess, but for me it's not humor. Same goes for his Tomb Raider review, his Sonic review, hell most of the reviews he did. Or maybe I stopped seeing them funny because I tried the games and know how much bullshit the guy is saying, I don't know
"I hated this episode so much, it wasn't funny in the slightest...That's why I watched it...four...times..."

Dude, how do you not see the absolute retardation in your thought process?
I re-watched to see if I didn't get the joke or maybe I didn't understand somethin' Jesus fuck, a guy thinks he didn' get a joke, re-watches the video and suddenly gets called a retard. Fucking amazing
If you don't like a movie you don't go back to the cinema 3 more times just to make sure.
Amazingly enough we aren't talking about a movie here - instead this is about a 5 minute video game review. This person used to find ZP funny, they still want to find it funny so they watch it a couple of times to make sure that something didn't slide past unnoticed. Plus Yahtzee does talk very fast, it would be easy to miss something the first time around and there's absolutely no harm in watching anything more then once. Especially if you are trying to like it because you once found the series insightful.

Keep in mind that I don't agree with Kanashe's view about ZP. Rather I find the amount of harrassment that this person is taking about their posts rather disgraceful. I have watched something more then once myself and there have been times that during later viewings I actually enjoy the show in general. People do this all the time - it does not make one slow in the head.
Well atleast one person didn't bash me for re-watching the episoed and trying to see humor in it. Anyway that aside,I do agree on the "different people have different tastes" thing, that's something I won't even try to disagree on. But maybe it's just me, but sometimes it feels that Yahtzee is trying to shove his opinion on othere's, maybe it's just me. But it's just kind of feels like that, the other thing. Well this might sound, stupid, but he's theory that fans aren't allowed to have an opinion is kinda stupid. Since if I'm a fan of somethin', I'm not allowed to voice my opinion or have a saying. It's just kind of, a really bad way of trying to defend himselfe on accepting maybe that he was wrong with somethin'. Again, it's just my thought, maybe I'm wrong
 

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Doug said:
Why is it every times someone disagreed with one group, they are automatically classed as "Blind sheep"? Maybe some people still enjoy it as humour.
tommo8993 said:
FANBOY ALERT
Well done, you earn the "I'm a big boy now because I insulted someone without them hearing straight away" award, and also sortof proved my point even more.
 

Billybarbara

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Are you retarded? ZP is amazing he trys to do things a bit different in the reviws now thats all theres no need to ***** about it beaucse you dont like it.
 

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I still enjoy watching his reviews, though I am still waiting for another bloody good one. They have been okay, but there hasn't been a bloody rip-roaring one in a while. I mean, I was expecting him to really tear PoP apart, but I was disappointed in his response.

But hey, that happens. In the times I don't agree with him, he is still usually entertaining or has some valid point that I can understand. When I do agree with him, it is doubly amusing. There has only been a few instances where I have gotten annoyed, not because he was a big meanie and didn't like my precious little games, but because I thought his points were ridiculous. But in the end, he's a bloody critic and just another gamer, so what do you expect.

Anyway. Long story short, I still look forward to his weekly review, but I don't shit bricks every Wednesday because the word of Yahtzee is nigh.
 

Corpse XxX

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I think Yathzee does a very good job.. Off course there will always be some repetition in his work, but that can also be said about every game made in the last 10 years.. One way or another, every game is similar to another..

So i would say that Yatzhee is less repetetiv then the games he is reviewing, and come to think of it.. Is there any other game critic that does his work in similar ways as Yatzhee?
 

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I think it's a bit unfair to say all the blame is Yahtzee's. I mean yeah some jokes are the same but it's not like it's all his fault. He makes he jokes based off the game and he can't change the game to make better jokes for you.

Regardless, I'll still tune in every wednesday until something better comes along. And as always if you don't like it, don't watch it. But I'm sure we've all come to the understanding that that's impossible to do on the internet.
 

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He hasn't changed, we have. So in actual fact we started out well as an audience and have now slowly gone downhill, not him...
 

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"Doesn't matter to me. It's still funny from time to time. Besides the rest of the Escapist is far more interesting, and I thank ZP for introducing me to that."

My opinion is basically the same as yours. ZP is still more entertaining than most things on the internet and even on TV. There's my two cents.
 

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Amoreyna said:
cuddly_tomato said:
Kanashe said:
Triffid said:
Kanashe said:
I've noticed that people say that today's review was 'funny' and 'hilarious'. I'm sorry, but someones gone bat shit crazy. Either you guys, or me, I've wathed the entire review, four times and I haven't cracked a smile, hell not even a chuckel. I don't know when African jokes became the hip with the comedy bisnuess, but for me it's not humor. Same goes for his Tomb Raider review, his Sonic review, hell most of the reviews he did. Or maybe I stopped seeing them funny because I tried the games and know how much bullshit the guy is saying, I don't know
"I hated this episode so much, it wasn't funny in the slightest...That's why I watched it...four...times..."

Dude, how do you not see the absolute retardation in your thought process?
I re-watched to see if I didn't get the joke or maybe I didn't understand somethin' Jesus fuck, a guy thinks he didn' get a joke, re-watches the video and suddenly gets called a retard. Fucking amazing
If you don't like a movie you don't go back to the cinema 3 more times just to make sure.
Amazingly enough we aren't talking about a movie here - instead this is about a 5 minute video game review. This person used to find ZP funny, they still want to find it funny so they watch it a couple of times to make sure that something didn't slide past unnoticed. Plus Yahtzee does talk very fast, it would be easy to miss something the first time around and there's absolutely no harm in watching anything more then once. Especially if you are trying to like it because you once found the series insightful.

Keep in mind that I don't agree with Kanashe's view about ZP. Rather I find the amount of harrassment that this person is taking about their posts rather disgraceful. I have watched something more then once myself and there have been times that during later viewings I actually enjoy the show in general. People do this all the time - it does not make one slow in the head.
The level of "harrassment" this person is taking as a result of his posts is because of the content of his posts.

Kanashe said:
Yahtzee himselfe went from a reviewer to a simple ranting troll who has an ego the size of Germany.
Kanashe said:
I mean there is a difference between a joke and bad humor, and Yahztee is now despalying what horrible humor he has developed.
Kanashe said:
Or maybe I stopped seeing them funny because I tried the games and know how much bullshit the guy is saying, I don't know
Every single post this person has made has been an unconstructive, unsupported, and quite childish attack on an employee of this website. Why?

Kanashe said:
I actually liked Yahztee in the past, but when I tried the game he called shit, I realised, how wrong he was and how much he lied.
If you hang around this forum for any length of time you will get fed up of people like this. Every Wednesday we get an influx of butt-hurt fanboys of whatever particular game Yahtzee has taken a shit on. The Escapist really should have a rule about this in my opinion. If anyone has anything to say about a Yahtzee review, there is a thread always open for it. People trying to start anti-Yahtzee campaigns because he verbally destroyed a game they liked is getting very very old.

ninjapuma42 said:
orrrrr... maby he is doing something else besides "talking fast into a head set" ,like you know he has a life
Your avatar is awesome.
 

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Im sorry but when i first started watching ZP i thought it was the greatest thing ever. a game review with some actual wit. but then suddenly it seems that after the GDC ZP special it all seemed to go downhill, atleast thats my opinion, ZP introduced me to the escapist, but i seem to spend more time on here on days other than wednesday more and more, sometimes forgetting that a ZP came out until the following tuesday.

is it just me or has ZP reached the point where its " just toying with the gravel on the big road of life"
no we just got used to it done simple

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ffxfriek

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It has but It'll be back because every good person runs out of fuel and requires a little recharge every now and then....ill never lose faith in ZP
 

Amoreyna

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cuddly_tomato said:
The level of "harrassment" this person is taking as a result of his posts is because of the content of his posts.

So answering this him back in the same manner or doing something as arrogant as correcting his spelling then making a captial case out of it is okay then?

Kanashe said:
Yahtzee himselfe went from a reviewer to a simple ranting troll who has an ego the size of Germany.
Kanashe said:
I mean there is a difference between a joke and bad humor, and Yahztee is now despalying what horrible humor he has developed.
Kanashe said:
Or maybe I stopped seeing them funny because I tried the games and know how much bullshit the guy is saying, I don't know
Every single post this person has made has been an unconstructive, unsupported, and quite childish attack on an employee of this website. Why?

Honestly it's called his opinion, he's allowed to have it and actually his posts aren't the worse I've seen on here especially towards Yahtzee. He even says that he used to like the videos but no longer does. He seems to mistake differences in opinion for lies but that really is he's own perjogative.

Kanashe said:
I actually liked Yahztee in the past, but when I tried the game he called shit, I realised, how wrong he was and how much he lied.
If you hang around this forum for any length of time you will get fed up of people like this. Every Wednesday we get an influx of butt-hurt fanboys of whatever particular game Yahtzee has taken a shit on. The Escapist really should have a rule about this in my opinion. If anyone has anything to say about a Yahtzee review, there is a thread always open for it. People trying to start anti-Yahtzee campaigns because he verbally destroyed a game they liked is getting very very old.

Ah yes, since my profile is new then I must have only just stumbled across The Escapist, right? Actually I've been watching Yahtzee for a long time and have read through the threads concerning his episodes. It was the behavior of people posting (both sides) that kept me from making a profile for so long. I finally did to answer a completely different forum question.

Personally I'm tired of people feeling the need to start these kind of threads so that they can publically announce their change in viewing habits. It would be one thing if you didn't like a show anymore and offered reasons why and maybe how the show could be made better. Somethig that this thread is lacking greatly in. But at the same time to try and limit a person's subject matter by banning certain threads will only cause more harm then good.


 

cuddly_tomato

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Amoreyna said:
Honestly it's called his opinion, he's allowed to have it and actually his posts aren't the worse I've seen on here especially towards Yahtzee. He even says that he used to like the videos but no longer does. He seems to mistake differences in opinion for lies but that really is he's own perjogative.
He is allowed to have it. He isn't allowed to insult, troll, and defame other people, especially not employees of the very website he is posting on, without present reasons and evidence why.

Amoreyna said:
Ah yes, since my profile is new then I must have only just stumbled across The Escapist, right?
No, but it means you are only just started a part of the community (Nice to meet you, by the way:) ), and therefore will be less wearied by the antics of these anti-Yahtzee campaigners.

Amoreyna said:
Personally I'm tired of people feeling the need to start these kind of threads so that they can publically announce their change in viewing habits. It would be one thing if you didn't like a show anymore and offered reasons why and maybe how the show could be made better. Somethig that this thread is lacking greatly in. But at the same time to try and limit a person's subject matter by banning certain threads will only cause more harm then good.
I am not advocating a ban on criticism of Yahtzee. Quite the contrary, I think that the 'review' part of his reviews can be pretty innaccurate. He appeared to praise GTA 4, a pathetic vomit pile of a game, and didn't go nearly far enough in crucifying that god-awful stinky cabbage that was Fable 2, and I have said so. He really should be harsher with some of the crap that is coming out now. But there is a place already set aside for that. It isn't banning threads or censoring opinion, it is applying some common sense and the forum rules. If someone takes issue with Yahtzee then go take issue with him in the threads he makes. This isn't the right place and it is really just spam.
 

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Aiden Rebirth said:
he swears alot less, but still is very funny.
personally, i like that he swears a lot less... it makes me not feel so bad about letting my 12 yr old nephew watch it... :)


I'm still a fan of ZP, and i will agree that some of the time i feel it's more of a chore to watch the video than anything, it still amuses me... and isn't that the point? i mean, hell, if you're not amused when you watch a TV show, do you keep watching it, or change the channel to see what else is on?

I change the channel, and then I don't go on some forum and post about how disappointed i was about the show that i stopped watching... i simply forget about it... if you don't like it, go do something else. nobody's forcing you to keep watching his videos.
 

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After Yahtzee did his "Year in Review" thing, I think we all saw that he wasn't perfect and was not sent here to lead us to the promise land.

I loved every single review he did up until the Year In Review...and since then I've gotten a cheap laugh or two out of each of them but...it's like we've started to question God...

And I don't think that it's we've gotten used to his formula..cause I can go back and watch any random review and still laugh...
 

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That GDC (where Yahtzee gave that presentation) is the last time the world saw the real Yahtzee.

You see after his presentation, a band of masked developers led by Peter Molyneux kidnapped Yahtzee, skinned him and disposed of the rest of the body the way gamedevelopers normally do (find a nice deep hole and chuck him in; if there's a fire or spikes at the bottom, so much the better), then used the skin to put the finishing touches on their Criticyborg. Since then their Yahtzee-bot has been giving recommendations for us to buy total crap games we would never buy otherwise, has begun a love relationship with all games with quick time events, and has stopped calling his mother. Now when he complains about a game, it's not even the stuff worth complaining about and he glosses over huge frustrating faults.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is a conspiracy fact. We will never be able to bring back the original Yahtzee but I'm working on a widgit that (when implanted in the criticyborg) will at least give it some sense of right and wrong: intuitive controls-right, quick time events-wrong / lockpicking minigames-right, lawnmowing minigames-wrong. Now I just need to design a trap that will allow me to install the widget; I'm thinking of spreading Branston Pickle (the preferred fuel of most cyborgs; that's how we know) on a 360 in the middle of a hydraulic press and just clamp him there. Any better ideas.
 

Amoreyna

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cuddly_tomato said:
Amoreyna said:
Honestly it's called his opinion, he's allowed to have it and actually his posts aren't the worse I've seen on here especially towards Yahtzee. He even says that he used to like the videos but no longer does. He seems to mistake differences in opinion for lies but that really is he's own perjogative.
He is allowed to have it. He isn't allowed to insult, troll, and defame other people, especially not employees of the very website he is posting on, without present reasons and evidence why.
Actually, like I said before his posts are tame to some of the other stuff I've seen. On on thread I was called a whore. My point though was that his posts shouldn't be meet with the same level of anger that he has. It just keeps things dragging on. You didn't do this, but that one member who sat around and corrected his spelling and bashed him for it over and over again. That's the kind of stuff that needs to stop if we're going to get anywhere. Go back and read his last post, it's on the same page as this. It's a lot calmer without the flaming.

Evidence? Most everything is opinion based so how does evidenc play a role in that? Otherwise the rest I agree with.

cuddly_tomato said:
Amoreyna said:
Ah yes, since my profile is new then I must have only just stumbled across The Escapist, right?
No, but it means you are only just started a part of the community (Nice to meet you, by the way:) ), and therefore will be less wearied by the antics of these anti-Yahtzee campaigners.
Hmmm...every time I see your name with your avatar of Butters I keep thinking about when Butters wanted to be a vampire. Anyways - yes I was long wearied of the whole anti-Yahtzee nonsense and how hostile people get over this subject. Also tired of being called a fanboy if I defend anything he's done.

cuddly_tomato said:
Amoreyna said:
Personally I'm tired of people feeling the need to start these kind of threads so that they can publically announce their change in viewing habits. It would be one thing if you didn't like a show anymore and offered reasons why and maybe how the show could be made better. Somethig that this thread is lacking greatly in. But at the same time to try and limit a person's subject matter by banning certain threads will only cause more harm then good.
I am not advocating a ban on criticism of Yahtzee. Quite the contrary, I think that the 'review' part of his reviews can be pretty innaccurate. He appeared to praise GTA 4, a pathetic vomit pile of a game, and didn't go nearly far enough in crucifying that god-awful stinky cabbage that was Fable 2, and I have said so. He really should be harsher with some of the crap that is coming out now. But there is a place already set aside for that. It isn't banning threads or censoring opinion, it is applying some common sense and the forum rules. If someone takes issue with Yahtzee then go take issue with him in the threads he makes. This isn't the right place and it is really just spam.
Looking at GTA 4, he did go back and change his opinion saying that when he first reviewed it he was so surrounded with shit that anything even a little new looked like the second coming. Actually I have found that I do agree with him for the most part when he thinks a game is complete crap. Take Fable: TLC - I ended up getting a chance to play it after I watched his review and I though he was completely right in his negative view of the game. Did he leave some things out that would have made it look even worse? Sure he did - but he only has so much time and as simple as his animation sequences look it does take a lot of work to do them.

I think people start new threads outside of the episode based one just because the show ones get so laidened down with commets within the first couple of hours. Whether people want genuine opinions or just attention they should still be able to make constructive threads. Both of us would like to see people use common sense but asking the masses to employ it is like asking lemnings to not run off a cliff.
 

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I regularly switch between ZP and Unforgotten Realms for the sake of freshness, which actually keeps both ridiculously funny for me. I find myself watching both from start to finish. Croshaw is a lot like crack - great the first few times around, but if you OD on him, you DIE.