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Baffle

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I'm starting to have a sneaky sinking feeling this was a sacrificial lamb. The powers that be knew the pound was going to collapse, regardless of any economic plan put forward. So the purposefully found the one candidate no one would feel bad pining all the blame on, elected her, the pound collapsed and she took all the blame, and the powers continue to be in power.
Like if there was a 100% guarantee the US was going into a depression, so we elect Ted Cruz, blame him for the depression, impeach him and move on.
No, the pound wasn't great, but it was a direct result of her policies that it collapsed so quickly and badly. The good news is that now we get much-reduced protection from energy prices and much higher interest rates. It's going to be a real shocker for people who've only ever known the low interest rates of the last 10+ years. It had to end some time, but I genuinely feel for the people (well, not the landlords) caught out on this with it happening so quickly.
 

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Poorly aged things


It's not even out till Christmas lmao
 
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Corner of No and Where
Tories like tax cuts and social conservatism.
Truss stood on a platform of both.
The Tory members voted for her.
The markets were unimpressed.
But they must have known the markets would be unimpressed. Tax cuts for the rich always lead to economic downturn. But they never care, because they got tax cuts. Why would something as silly as accountability matter now?
 

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But they must have known the markets would be unimpressed. Tax cuts for the rich always lead to economic downturn. But they never care, because they got tax cuts. Why would something as silly as accountability matter now?
After the market turmoil she responded by getting in Jeremy Hunt who U turned her entire economic policy

So now it's one backed by neither the public nor the party
 

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Imagine losing to lettuce.
I would try to drop off the face of the earth.
Also, I would like to propose a deal with the UK: We take in all your disgraced former PMs, and you take in our disgraced former Presidents.
 

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Imagine losing to lettuce.
I would try to drop off the face of the earth.
Also, I would like to propose a deal with the UK: We take in all your disgraced former PMs, and you take in our disgraced former Presidents.
I'm not sure if anyone wins in that deal.

Counter Proposal: We sent the lot of them to mars on a one way trip. Just don't tell them the one way trip part before they leave.
 

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David Cameron not only messed up the country, he also fucked his party silly. It's impressive really.

Now are they really going to go trough the whole election by party member again or just crown #2?

Or maybe they'll just reappoint Bozo.
 

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Absolutely incredible scenes.

So, the Conservative Party aims to complete the leadership contest within a week. This means they don't have time to go through the usual process (which involves balloting the MPs repeatedly, removing the lowest-scoring candidates until only 3 remain, and then submitting the top 2 of those to a ballot of party members).

The likelihood is that the new Prime Minister will be decided by a sole ballot of MPs. Graham Brady may just instruct MPs to decide on a single candidate, so that they can bypass the members' vote without needing to formally change the rules.

There's already a movement among Tory MPs to bring back Boris Johnson, who resigned in disgrace a mere 3 months ago. The other likeliest candidates are former Chancellor Rishi Sunak, who lost to Truss in the last leadership election, and Penny Mordaunt. Maaaaaybe Ben Wallace.

I rather wanted Truss to limp on, because I think she's the most damaging candidate for the Conservative Party, and would probably have seen them wiped out at the next election-- current polling indicates the SNP would have a shot at becoming the official opposition to a Labour government if an election were held now.
 

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Absolutely incredible scenes.

So, the Conservative Party aims to complete the leadership contest within a week. This means they don't have time to go through the usual process (which involves balloting the MPs repeatedly, removing the lowest-scoring candidates until only 3 remain, and then submitting the top 2 of those to a ballot of party members).

The likelihood is that the new Prime Minister will be decided by a sole ballot of MPs. Graham Brady may just instruct MPs to decide on a single candidate, so that they can bypass the members' vote without needing to formally change the rules.

There's already a movement among Tory MPs to bring back Boris Johnson, who resigned in disgrace a mere 3 months ago. The other likeliest candidates are former Chancellor Rishi Sunak, who lost to Truss in the last leadership election, and Penny Mordaunt. Maaaaaybe Ben Wallace.
I know this is a crazy thought but hear me out:

Dr. Who.

I know the Doctor is not actually a real person and an alien to boot, but beyond that, can s/he be any worst then the last 4 or so?

Sorry, I don't have much serious to say because the about of shit in the shitshow is just a marvel to behold and I'm an American who is used to stupid shitty politics and I'm honestly kind of at a loss how to react here.
 
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I rather wanted Truss to limp on, because I think she's the most damaging candidate for the Conservative Party, and would probably have seen them wiped out at the next election-- current polling indicates the SNP would have a shot at becoming the official opposition to a Labour government if an election were held now.
They'll do everything in their power not to hold a general election and by the time the next one comes around the public will have forgotten about this and will vote them back in.

Ironically, this is the one situation I think the monarchy should intervene and call a general election.
 

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They'll do everything in their power not to hold a general election and by the time the next one comes around the public will have forgotten about this and will vote them back in.
The British public do indeed have exceptionally short memories. That's my only worry too.

However, the British public also generally dislike having no choice in their head-of-government. It hampered Brown throughout his tenure that he was never elected.
 

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However, the British public also generally dislike having no choice in their head-of-government. It hampered Brown throughout his tenure that he was never elected.
Did it really hamper him because he wasn't elected, or because the media kept saying he wasn't elected? From reading BBC News these last few days, you'd be forgiven for thinking that Truss getting kicked out was more important to keep talking about than any other event going on in the world.
 

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Absolutely incredible scenes.

So, the Conservative Party aims to complete the leadership contest within a week. This means they don't have time to go through the usual process (which involves balloting the MPs repeatedly, removing the lowest-scoring candidates until only 3 remain, and then submitting the top 2 of those to a ballot of party members).

The likelihood is that the new Prime Minister will be decided by a sole ballot of MPs. Graham Brady may just instruct MPs to decide on a single candidate, so that they can bypass the members' vote without needing to formally change the rules.

There's already a movement among Tory MPs to bring back Boris Johnson, who resigned in disgrace a mere 3 months ago. The other likeliest candidates are former Chancellor Rishi Sunak, who lost to Truss in the last leadership election, and Penny Mordaunt. Maaaaaybe Ben Wallace.

I rather wanted Truss to limp on, because I think she's the most damaging candidate for the Conservative Party, and would probably have seen them wiped out at the next election-- current polling indicates the SNP would have a shot at becoming the official opposition to a Labour government if an election were held now.
Amazed at the prospect of a separatist party becoming the official opposition.
Happened once to Canada from 1993-1997.
 

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So then, the ill fated Truss Ministry. Where did it all go wrong?

Well, first and foremost at the point where she tried to push a high risk unsustainable economic strategy that wasn't in the Tory manifesto and was soundly rejected by the financial markets.
Then the point where she completely caved in and allowed Jeremy Hunt to completely reverse the economic policy the Tories voted her in to implement.
Finally, the point where she tried to force Tory MPs to vote in favour of the broadly unpopular practice of fracking.

If the Queen hadn't died and prevented her from doing any governing for several weeks, she'd have been gone even sooner.
 

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Amazed at the prospect of a separatist party becoming the official opposition.
Happened once to Canada from 1993-1997.
Was also following a decade of right wing government in power.
 

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Meanwhile no one is talking about the negative impact of Brexit.
Brexiteers sure have been lucky, they were given Covid, than the war in Ukraine and finally Liz Truss. What will it be in 6 months?
 

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In order to curtail the media circus, the Tory Party chairman and the leader of the 1922 committee have agreed that the process for choosing the next leader should be turned around in a week. In order to facilitate this, they have insisted that any prospective challenger obtain the support of 100 of the 356 Tory MPs by Monday. If there are three challengers there will be a ballot of MPs on Monday to select two who will be put as choices to the party members, who must vote online by Friday. If there's only one with enough endorsements they'll automatically win. Possible frontrunners include last time's runner up and former chancellor Rishi Sunak, last time's third place and Leader of the House of Commons Penny Mordaunt, hard right git and former home secretary Suella Braverman, other hard right git and international trade secretary Kemi Badenoch, reassuringly unexciting defence secretary Ben Wallace, and disgraced former Prime Minister Boris Johnson.