15 year old kills 9 year old neighbor, charged as adult

[Low Key]

Being charged as an adult doesn't mean you wont get medical treatment. It just means you get a longer punishment. They can't give her the death penalty, but they have to stick her in there for everyone else's safety

Regardless of her mental condition she still commited second degree murder

That's right. But assuming that we're dealing with someone unwell in the mind, don't you think that charging them as an adult is a bit... counterproductive? I mean, part of the idea of accounting for mental imbalance is that they lacked the mental capacities of an adult when they commited their crime. The accused is a Minor, and one probably lacking her full and healthy ability to judge her actions, doesn't it strike you as odd to take the step into adult law and then argue she was... not adult?

Charging her as an adult is skipping right past the ability of her defence to plea insanity and ask for more appropriate proceedings. Also, she is a minor...

She deserves more than a 6 month psych evaluation, that's for sure. I'd say 10-15 years should set her straight.

 

[Nmil-ek]

Seeing as this is America will she be given life when trialed as an adult or are we talking death sentance here? Obviously just as speculation on an ignorant filthy forigners part but could they put a minor to death?

 

[zombflux]

It's wrong. She doesn't have the rights of an adult, she is not a full citizen and it is therefore wrong to treat her the same way. That's the whole point of the 'minor' system, they are too young to be adults, and are protected from the adult world.

This.

 

[Arionis]

I think she deserves to be tried as an adult. She planned out a murder just for the experience.

I can understand wondering what it would be like, but to actually do so JUST to find out is appalling.

 

[theultimateend]

Everyday my hope for humanity is dwindling.

Well just be happy that few people are as fail at logic as you.

Ultimately she is one person out of 6.5 billion. She is in no way an accurate sample of the human population.

But I'm sure you are just trying to hop on the mean world bias train.

Millions of teenage girls didn't kill anyone. But nobody cares about what the normal public is doing. People are interested in the extreme minority, which some people stupidly attribute to the whole.

It's wrong. She doesn't have the rights of an adult, she is not a full citizen and it is therefore wrong to treat her the same way. That's the whole point of the 'minor' system, they are too young to be adults, and are protected from the adult world.

This.

What constitutes the rights of an adult? Are we assuming that once you are old enough to do anything that is age limited that you are an adult?

I'm only curious because people can't drink alcohol till 21, would that mean they aren't capable of grasping murder till then? Sounds stupid I'm sure, it is supposed to, mainly because I don't really buy the argument for the minor system.

Accidentally killing someone because you are naive is an activity a minor might do, killing someone to see how it feels is not.

 

[Low Key]

Seeing as this is America will she be given life when trialed as an adult or are we talking death sentance here? Obviously jsut as speculation but could they seriously put a minor to death?

Not all states have the death penalty, and no, she won't get life. That would be stupid on the part of the judge. A 15 year old girl doesn't deserve life unless she's a serial killer. If she does get tried as an adult, it will probably be for manslaughter which is 5-30 years in prison.

 

[Azraellod]

I think the real question is whether or not she is likely to do it again.

Assuming she isn't, then she should be tried as a minor. If she has no desire to commit murder again, then she should be punished, but not too harshly. However, if she enjoyed the sensation of killing, then try her as an adult. It's ridiculous to try her as a minor if she's likely to go off and kill someone else.

 

[lizards]

No fucking teens have depression. Don't even start.

thats wrong and in fact its so wrong that it disgusts me to read it

 

[mechanixis]

She should be sentenced to being executed by someone who "just wants to see what it feels like."

 

[lizards]

yes its right by the way

 

[Caligulove]

I do not think that children can be tried as adults because the law does not grant them the same rights as an adult until a certain age.

The kid is fucked up, though. And deserves rehabilitation and jail time for her crimes though

 

[duckfi8]

It's wrong. She doesn't have the rights of an adult, she is not a full citizen and it is therefore wrong to treat her the same way. That's the whole point of the 'minor' system, they are too young to be adults, and are protected from the adult world.

its premeditated murder, if she dug a grave then she knew what was going to happen and she should be charged as an adult, at age 15 you know the full consequences of your actions.

 

[PyroTiger]

You notice the story doesn't have a quote by the girl? It's also written by a blessed christian person. Maybe she could have gotten away with it if she hadn't taken everyone to the body. We say most people belong to the league of decency. The idea is if you see a woman being raped, without being asked you will call the cops or try to save the woman by force. This girl wanted to know what it was like to leave the league she probably didn't realize just how bad things could get.

 

[Skeleton Jelly]

I love how society thinks Teenagers don't know what they're doing. Some don't but most understand they're ending a life, which ends a lot more things.

 

[Littlee300]

I am pretty sure human life has more value then just a thrill, why can't kids stick to having fun killing codes in video games! Codes don't have much value. Btw I think they should send her to jail.

 

[Low Key]

I do not think that children can be tried as adults because the law does not grant them the same rights as an adult until a certain age.

The kid is fucked up, though. And deserves rehabilitation and jail time for her crimes though

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She deserves to be tried as an adult, no question about it.

Case in point: my friend, at 16, was almost tried as an adult for robbing someone with a BB gun. If the cops didn't botch most of the evidence, he would have been in adult prison over $70.

I know for a fact he knew was he was doing, and at 15, that girl knew exactly what she was doing too.

Also, do you go to Hennepin Tech? There is a sous chef in one of my classes.

 

[Simon Hadow]

Try her as an adult, try her as a minor, whatever. Juvie, prison, neither takes child murderers that well I hear. Either way, there's going to be justice.

 

[Nmil-ek]

What I find the most odd in the whole situation, is that she followed through with it. That she wanted to know what it felt like is something I can understand. That she planned it out is also something I can understand. That she actually did it is what frightens me. Because she must've had an eerie and scaring feeling moments before doing it. Which means that her discipline to 'do this' was stronger than her feeling of justice.

Not necessarily true for all we know she may actually be sociopathic I hope thats the case anyway because I find it hard to comprehend how a 15 year old girl could bypass that intrinsic moral wall most of us have to do something so vile, but people are all shades of fucked up.