noted. now that i think of it, siren blood curse might have tried this concept at one pointWhiteTigerShiro said:
2nd Person View?
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I think your the only person who gave a clear example of what second person gaming would be. Let me cement you point with the power of YouTube.Naheal said:
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I think second person would be like controlling a charecter from the perspective of a different charecter, like RCing a robot from the perspective of the person behind the controls.
Well, 1st and 3rd are kind of misnomers. Well, 3rd is. 3rd person would be more like an RTS, whereas what we actually consider to be a 3rd person game SHOULD be called 2nd person.
Ist person: I (as in from the perspective of the main character)
3rd person: He/she/it (From a not-involved onlooker)
2nd person, (You), would therefore be from the perspective of an existing character controlling another
For instance, a game where you play as a camera guy in a documentary or record of a hero. The "camera guy", in this instance would exist as a third party, essentially fulfilling the roll of a third-person over-the-shoulder camera. In contrast, this "camera guy" is a character in the game world and, while the hero is controlled by the player, the "camera guy follows him/her around. The camera guy is just as essential as the hero and can be attacked as well, both being able to lose health (though camera guy likely being the more fragile of the two). The camera guy would help and interact with the environment, sometimes backing off to get a better shot (or avoid danger), but it is clear who the main character is. The game essentially boils down to a combination of defending the camera guy and completing objectives.
This probably hasn't been attempted much as it is untested (commercially), it may not be terribly fun to play and it could end up being absolute hell to code (that last one, perhaps not so likely).
The only example of a similar concept I can think of is Rayman: Raving Rabbids (I can't remember which one). You play as one rabbid attempting to direct another with two bike horns so that it hits as many obstacles as possible within the time limit. The horns control the movements of rabbid 2 while the camera is from the perspective of rabbid 1, who backs up as rabbid 2 moves foreward. Ubisoft could afford to do this as, if the minigame was a total failure, there were plenty of others to pick from, though I can't really see this idea going on to make a complete successful game.
Of course, I'll eat my words if "The life and times of Typical Action Hero #562" is the hottest selling game of 2014.
3rd person: He/she/it (From a not-involved onlooker)
2nd person, (You), would therefore be from the perspective of an existing character controlling another
For instance, a game where you play as a camera guy in a documentary or record of a hero. The "camera guy", in this instance would exist as a third party, essentially fulfilling the roll of a third-person over-the-shoulder camera. In contrast, this "camera guy" is a character in the game world and, while the hero is controlled by the player, the "camera guy follows him/her around. The camera guy is just as essential as the hero and can be attacked as well, both being able to lose health (though camera guy likely being the more fragile of the two). The camera guy would help and interact with the environment, sometimes backing off to get a better shot (or avoid danger), but it is clear who the main character is. The game essentially boils down to a combination of defending the camera guy and completing objectives.
This probably hasn't been attempted much as it is untested (commercially), it may not be terribly fun to play and it could end up being absolute hell to code (that last one, perhaps not so likely).
The only example of a similar concept I can think of is Rayman: Raving Rabbids (I can't remember which one). You play as one rabbid attempting to direct another with two bike horns so that it hits as many obstacles as possible within the time limit. The horns control the movements of rabbid 2 while the camera is from the perspective of rabbid 1, who backs up as rabbid 2 moves foreward. Ubisoft could afford to do this as, if the minigame was a total failure, there were plenty of others to pick from, though I can't really see this idea going on to make a complete successful game.
Of course, I'll eat my words if "The life and times of Typical Action Hero #562" is the hottest selling game of 2014.
Nah it's just a bad idea.(Edit)Unless it's done from the point of Security Camera's or something consistantly neutral maybe.whiteM1lk said:
1st Person View: When you see the world of the main-character(at the moment)from thier point of view.
2nd Person View: Same as 1st person however you see the world from someone elses 1st person perspective looking at the main charater who'd you be controlling.
3rd Person View: Any view that shows the main character from an out of body point of view that isn't considered being another person's/object's point of view.(Over head,over the shoulder or the standard version of 3rd person.)
So, Super Mario 64; where the "camera" was a Lakitu(holding a camera, so whatever) watching Mario wander around, would technically be a 2nd person platformer.Lucane said:
That's third.whiteM1lk said:
First person = through the eyes of the character you're playing as
Third = watching the character you're playing as
The only Second person game I can think of is "Hey You Pikachu"
Second person by definition is the narrtor (you) refering to the player character as "you" no "I" (first) not "He" (third) but "you"
So yes a Second Person game would be like Hey You Pikachu, where you tell the player with to do rather then control them or be them.
cricketlenny said:
Wait is second person like, "You walk out in to the open, and you spot many enemies?" It implies that you, are the character. So wouldn't that make it, any RPG that you create your own character i.e. New Vegas?
The Lakitu doesn't actually interact with the world outside of holding a camera on a fishing pole, so no, it's still third person (only with a little bit of fluff behind the camera).WOPR said:
No, that really isn't what anyone's been saying over the last page. "You", in that situation is the game addressing the player, what's being talked about here is the player observing the game from the perspective of someone who isn't the controlled character, but still exists within the game world.voetballeeuw said:
I don't think that second person would be considered through the eyes of someone else. I mean wouldn't that make them the same as the camera of a third person game?The Urban Moose said:
I guess a text based game is the closest you can come to making a SP game. Or maybe I don't properly understand the differences between a second person story and a second person game.