3DS is Watching You: Activity-Logging and Anti-Piracy Features

[Illyasviel]

the RIAA has stoped, they have stated the campaign is over. The porn industry(why would anyone torrent porn i mean with all the free strea... i mean because its disgusting) and the movie industry are taking their wack at it before they finally give up.

as for giving up rights theCIA and homeland spy on everyone no matter where you are so that not giving up rights thats just reality. You are right about society but I ahve already adressed that. I have to go(actull work to do) I have enjoyed talking to you have a nice day.( sorry about the hyprocrit/ass hole comment earlier)

No problem. I get that all the time. I think my cool response to everything drives people up the wall or something.

I won't ever believe the RIAA has stopped. I worry the gaming industry is following in their footsteps, due to piracy, the shameless spinning of the truth to create hysteria and an apathetic or hostile public.

Just keep in mind, stopping and a calculated withdrawal to reconsolidate are two separate things.

 

[dakorok]

The consumers are not the enemy, game developers. Stop treating us like it. Please.
I'm not going anywhere a 3DS now because of this. I don't want some false detection on Nintendo's part to brick my system. Even more so, I don't want them knowing all the personal information that they might get from this. The 3DS can connect to the internet, right? So potentially, Nintendo could log any site I visit, and hold on to any info I fill out in a form.

That's way too much power.

 

[Illyasviel]

he says the firms win because they never go to court with 2000$ settlements being offered, he says that he could beat the lawsuits(and that most really good defense attorneys could as well) but the legal expenses would cost you FAR more then 2k so anyone with money just settles.

That was the point through right? I was under the impression that in nearly all cases, the RIAA was presenting their targets with the option to settle outside of court for USD2k - 4k exactly so that everybody would take the backdoor out and they could avoid actually entering a legal battle.

Its not that they couldn't win, its just people settling outside of court never makes headlines, so the RIAA was knowingly throwing away money in order to avoid the negative PR of actually taking a person into court, and by implication, labeling that person as a criminal.

So what I'm saying is they knew what they were getting themselves into. Why would they stop if things were going according to plan ( outside of the not stopping piracy part )?

If you think about it, business really does have it tough. Even if the guy is clearly a criminal, they can't call him a criminal solely because they're a business and held to different standards or something.

 

[Illyasviel]

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all they have on most people is an ip address, go online and look how easy wifi connections are to hack and you see how a lot of the people they accuse might not be guilty.

For this to work, you have to be able to prove you run an unsecured WLAN. Thing is, most people who are intelligent enough to bring this up as a defense are also intelligent enough to not run an unsecured WLAN. I'm fairly certain claiming to have had your WLAN hacked is not an adequate defense as its not provable.

I was following a related case very closely.

 

[Delusibeta]

DRM: Hardly anyone gives a crap about it.

It'll be interesting if there's any lawsuits over this.

 

[Lunar Templar]

*reads all 11 pages* wow, that was a waste of time ... paranoid lot aren't you

i highly doubt its gonna be as bad as people are thinking, people are again, freaking out and over reacting, (like they do on FOX 'news')without seeing it in practice/getting they're hands on it,
fun fact i picked up:: things don't always work out as bad is it sound at first

Yes, I am going to see benefit from my participation. In Nintendo and other companies releasing more games I enjoy. I don't care how fast a game's price drops. I care about them using that information to release more games that I will actually want to play.

Which you will buy and they will make more money, see why this market research is so valuable?

the down side is?
If a company uses marketing info to make a product that, according to said info, is highly desirable then they will not only make money, but have the side effect of a pleased costumer base, which will in-turn result in said costumers returning for other products

*gasp* not that, heaven forbid a company make money from a product made to please they're costumers -.-

 

[Lunar Templar]

*reads all 11 pages* wow, that was a waste of time ... paranoid lot aren't you

i highly doubt its gonna be as bad as people are thinking, people are again, freaking out and over reacting, (like they do on FOX 'news')without seeing it in practice/getting they're hands on it,
fun fact i picked up:: things don't always work out as bad is it sound at first

Yes, I am going to see benefit from my participation. In Nintendo and other companies releasing more games I enjoy. I don't care how fast a game's price drops. I care about them using that information to release more games that I will actually want to play.

Which you will buy and they will make more money, see why this market research is so valuable?

the down side is?
If a company uses marketing info to make a product that, according to said info, is highly desirable then they will not only make money, but have the side effect of a pleased costumer base, which will in-turn result in said costumers returning for other products

*gasp* not that, heaven forbid a company make money from a product made to please they're costumers -.-

The down side is a compromise of privacy and consumer rights. I don't want to be spied on to improve Nintendos bottom line and I am not so addicted to video games that I would give up anything to help them keep them coming.

It's amazing that so many people are willing to pay to be monitored.

news flash
YOUR BEING MONITORED NOW, and will be when you go online with what ever system you own, an ya paid for that, get over it -.-

 

[JayDeth]

Um, people, Microsoft tried the same thing and the courts said, no. They bought it, they can fuck with it all they want. At least in the States, this isn't going to fly.

 

[Lunar Templar]

*reads all 11 pages* wow, that was a waste of time ... paranoid lot aren't you

i highly doubt its gonna be as bad as people are thinking, people are again, freaking out and over reacting, (like they do on FOX 'news')without seeing it in practice/getting they're hands on it,
fun fact i picked up:: things don't always work out as bad is it sound at first

Yes, I am going to see benefit from my participation. In Nintendo and other companies releasing more games I enjoy. I don't care how fast a game's price drops. I care about them using that information to release more games that I will actually want to play.

Which you will buy and they will make more money, see why this market research is so valuable?

the down side is?
If a company uses marketing info to make a product that, according to said info, is highly desirable then they will not only make money, but have the side effect of a pleased costumer base, which will in-turn result in said costumers returning for other products

*gasp* not that, heaven forbid a company make money from a product made to please they're costumers -.-

The down side is a compromise of privacy and consumer rights. I don't want to be spied on to improve Nintendos bottom line and I am not so addicted to video games that I would give up anything to help them keep them coming.

It's amazing that so many people are willing to pay to be monitored.

news flash
YOUR BEING MONITORED NOW, and will be when you go online with what ever system you own, an ya paid for that, get over it -.-

Really? What systems keep a log of my activities and send it to a corporation to see if I am a pirate?

none i can think of off hand, and since I'm not a pirate, I'm not inclined to look it up, fun part about not being a criminal crap like this doesn't bother me, though watching people who do have reason to be worried amuses me > greatly amuses me

 

[Lunar Templar]

*reads all 11 pages* wow, that was a waste of time ... paranoid lot aren't you

i highly doubt its gonna be as bad as people are thinking, people are again, freaking out and over reacting, (like they do on FOX 'news')without seeing it in practice/getting they're hands on it,
fun fact i picked up:: things don't always work out as bad is it sound at first

Yes, I am going to see benefit from my participation. In Nintendo and other companies releasing more games I enjoy. I don't care how fast a game's price drops. I care about them using that information to release more games that I will actually want to play.

Which you will buy and they will make more money, see why this market research is so valuable?

the down side is?
If a company uses marketing info to make a product that, according to said info, is highly desirable then they will not only make money, but have the side effect of a pleased costumer base, which will in-turn result in said costumers returning for other products

*gasp* not that, heaven forbid a company make money from a product made to please they're costumers -.-

The down side is a compromise of privacy and consumer rights. I don't want to be spied on to improve Nintendos bottom line and I am not so addicted to video games that I would give up anything to help them keep them coming.

It's amazing that so many people are willing to pay to be monitored.

news flash
YOUR BEING MONITORED NOW, and will be when you go online with what ever system you own, an ya paid for that, get over it -.-

Really? What systems keep a log of my activities and send it to a corporation to see if I am a pirate?

none i can think of off hand, and since I'm not a pirate, I'm not inclined to look it up, fun part about not being a criminal crap like this doesn't bother me, though watching people who do have reason to be worried amuses me > greatly amuses me

So you're basically talking out of your ass then?

apart from the part where it doesn't bother me and it's not gonna effect where or not i get a 3DS

pretty much flipping him shit, since he's being so vocal about it.
but really, people are forgetting, the reason this monitoring system exists is due to the rampant piracy. people can complain about all they want, but since no one is/can doing anything to actually fix it, suck it up and deal with it, don't like it, don't buy it, period since these kinda things aren't going away, and will more then like get worse before they get better