3DS is Watching You: Activity-Logging and Anti-Piracy Features

[daltonlaffs]

Im just curious, is their anyone one here whom actually believes that this will stop piracy I mean it wont im just curious if anyone thinks it will?

No, it won't. Piracy is the scapegoat.

Then what do you believe they're really after? If they want statistics on your game use, then they get that as well, and they've done that before, too. (Nintendo Channel for the Wii transmits your daily history of games and channels played to Nintendo for statistics. No, none of this is new except for the pedometer.) I really doubt Nintendo cares how far you walked today or what games you played for any other reason but for gimmicky "health charts" and popularity statistics respectively.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Well, I think it's obvious why DRM is getting worse and worse, gamers not only put up with it...but they encourage it.

Not just that but for all the people who whinge and ***** about some form of DRM or another, a shitpot of them still go out and pony up for whatever shiny new thing it was with the DRM anyway, so the companies know that in most cases, despite all the whinging and bitching, they're still going to make a fuckload of cash.

 

[Illyasviel]

Am I?

You can't deny that the whole wolf in sheep's clothing thing isn't a tactic.

Like I said, the harder you push them, the harder they push you back. If you're entirely unwilling to compromise with them at all, than obviously, its bad for relations between the two of you and casts suspicions. You can't shake no hands with a clenched fist.

 

[nothinghere]

Umm...the one thing I am wondering about...and perhaps I have some misconceptions about what homebrew specifically entails...

Piracy aside, there have been the "jailbreaking" of systems to play homebrew games, which is still technically illegal (maybe?) and, more to the point, would probably cause your 3DS to be bricked. I have issues with piracy just because I can sympathize with game devs who probably don't make a ton of money as it is. And I personally don't have a lot of problems with this sort of system except I think that once you purchase something you should be able to do whatever you want with it.

So I think the question of whether a "homebrew-enabled" system would get bricked would help definitively decide whether this truly bothers me or not.

/total lack of expertise

Yes, without a doubt.

Nintendo has been quite clear about homebrew on the Wii, they do not approve and they have released updates to counter homebrew. On the 3DS they will no doubt continue to fight homebrew as well as the playing of imported games, cheating devices like Action Replay and R4 cards. To Nintendo these are all things that Nintendo doesn't think you should be allowed to do with your..er..their 3DS.

Your not allowed to use action replay?? I never knew that. I don't know why nintendo would care about something like that

 

[WolfEdge]

Look, on the Wii you can let Nintendo monitor the games you play, how long you play them, what channels you go to, etc... but you get to choose. With the 3DS, I am getting the impression that you won't be able to choose.

Don't buy it then. It's as simple as that.

On topic: Hmmm..... it logs everything, you say. Does the 3DS have internet browsing capabilities? 'cause if it does, I'm going to buy one and only use it to go on /d/. Take that Nintendo!

Exactly my thought! The 3DS has a camera, yes? If Nintendo wants "information", I'll GIVE them information.

In the form of my dong.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

The 3DS has a camera, yes? If Nintendo wants "information", I'll GIVE them information.

In the form of my dong.

Maybe that's their plan... free cock pics.

 

[Illyasviel]

Am I?

You can't deny that its true.

Reported. I am not a pirate and I have said as much in this very thread. To not want to be spied on does not make one a pirate. To care about consumer rights does not make one a pirate.

...okay...

Why don't you spend your time more productively and instead of keeping a torch and pitchfork in hand, say, "hey, you know what, I understand your concerns, but I don't think what you're doing is right. Instead, why don't you do things this way, and I'll do things this way. Than we can both be happy."

Hint: I omnomnom all your rights is probably going to get rejected.

The only reason why we are where we are today is because of hardliners.

 

[WolfEdge]

The 3DS has a camera, yes? If Nintendo wants "information", I'll GIVE them information.

In the form of my dong.

Maybe that's their plan... free cock pics.

Those perverted, horny bastards... we've been played, boys! This is what they were after, all along...

All. Along...

 

[Juventus]

Am I?

You can't deny that the whole wolf in sheep's clothing thing isn't a tactic.

Like I said, the harder you push them, the harder they push you back. If you're entirely unwilling to compromise with them at all, than obviously, its bad for relations between the two of you and casts suspicions. You can't shake no hands with a clenched fist.

so going by this logic, if you don't want the government to spy on you, does that make you a terrorist? i mean if you don't like it, then you can always move.

 

[Illyasviel]

No, I will say what I wish to say and how I wish to say it within the rules of this forum. In fact, gamer understanding is why game companies keep crossing the line. It's time to say ENOUGH, IMO.

Why is it more productive to "understand" anti-consumerism?

Well then.

Next time I need to broker a peace agreement I know who not to ask.

so going by this logic, if you don't want the government to spy on you, does that make you a terrorist? i mean if you don't like it, then you can always move.

Nope.

 

[DarthFennec]

No, logging every single thing you do, that's unacceptable. I really wanted a 3DS but this ruined it for me -.-

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

so going by this logic, if you don't want the government to spy on you, does that make you a terrorist?

In many countries it will at least get you listed as a dissident or put on a watchlist.

 

[Illyasviel]

dude your arguing with a troll and he is of course winning stop

Since when was taking a centralist path considered trolling? I thought I was on "The Escapist," not "kill all democrats / republicans." I guess I'm just a natural.

hint: the problem he has without is not that you have an opinion its that when you disagree you accuse him of a crime when he disagrees with you, you have achieved the not so difficult task of being both a hypocrite and an asshole at the same time. Have a cookie

I didn't accuse him of anything. I just said, in a roundabout way, if you are so completely against having any kind of compromise at all, it just makes you look like you have an ulterior motive.

Just think. Why have things become so bad? Because both sides kept pushing harder and harder and harder because nobody was willing to meet in the middle at all. Everything that the gaming industry tries to do about piracy is failing. Even general consumers are apathetic, all the time, revenue is lost. So they try more extreme measures. Its a vicious cycle that consumers perpetuate as equally as business.