5 reasons life actually does get better (and the world isnt that bad)

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Vault101

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MetalGenocide said:
Been around for like 3 decades on this world, so I gotta say, with excessive sugarcoat btw:
This is a load of crap, that guy just got lucky, very fucking lucky.
mabye..but he knows what he's talking about

and what the hell else are we going to do? just step in front of the next bus that comes along because its all too hard?
 

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after all, many Vietnamese Soldiers kept on fighting and moving to positions away from civilians, even after the order to surrender was recieved.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything. But I'll go too: since 9/11 one hundred thousand civilians in the middle east have been killed due to occupying forces (us). Have you seen the video footage of a U.S. chopper opening fire on a group of civilians leaving church? They apparently mistook the babies they were holding for weapons. Their response upon learning of this: "Serves them right for bringing a child into a warzone." Funny how their backyard is a warzone now.
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
after all, many Vietnamese Soldiers kept on fighting and moving to positions away from civilians, even after the order to surrender was recieved.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything. But I'll go too: since 9/11 one hundred thousand civilians in the middle east have been killed due to occupying forces (us). Have you seen the video footage of a U.S. chopper opening fire on a group of civilians leaving church? They apparently mistook the babies they were holding for weapons. Their response upon learning of this: "Serves them right for bringing a child into a warzone." Funny how their backyard is a warzone now.
Indeed their backyard is a warzone, perhaps the US should pull out? Or try to send in some more more 'considerate' soliders.
The relevance is that, even in the face of hopelessness, they still locked horns with their enemy while trying to minimize any potential civilian casualties. They still stared at the situation, and attempted to improve it(for themselves and their side, or what was left of it) even though they knew it was damned well over.
 

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Smeg_head said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
after all, many Vietnamese Soldiers kept on fighting and moving to positions away from civilians, even after the order to surrender was recieved.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything. But I'll go too: since 9/11 one hundred thousand civilians in the middle east have been killed due to occupying forces (us). Have you seen the video footage of a U.S. chopper opening fire on a group of civilians leaving church? They apparently mistook the babies they were holding for weapons. Their response upon learning of this: "Serves them right for bringing a child into a warzone." Funny how their backyard is a warzone now.
Indeed their backyard is a warzone, perhaps the US should pull out? Or try to send in some more more 'considerate' soliders.
The relevance is that, even in the face of hopelessness, they still locked horns with their enemy while trying to minimize any potential civilian casualties. They still stared at the situation, and attempted to improve it(for themselves and their side, or what was left of it) even though they knew it was damned well over.
More considerate soldiers? Soldiers are trained to kill. They aren't sent there to talk to people; their mission is to "keep the peace" one bullet at a time.

And what were the Vietnamese rewarded with? Death. Their country still lies in ruin and is raped by conflict.

I'm not saying giving up is the solution. Far from it. I'm saying there is no solution. Well, at least not in the form of planting a few trees or handing out change to the homeless.
 

Vault101

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
after all, many Vietnamese Soldiers kept on fighting and moving to positions away from civilians, even after the order to surrender was recieved.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything. But I'll go too: since 9/11 one hundred thousand civilians in the middle east have been killed due to occupying forces (us). Have you seen the video footage of a U.S. chopper opening fire on a group of civilians leaving church? They apparently mistook the babies they were holding for weapons. Their response upon learning of this: "Serves them right for bringing a child into a warzone." Funny how their backyard is a warzone now.
ok ok we get it life sucks, everything sucks WELL DONE,

now excuse me Im going to play games and have fun
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
after all, many Vietnamese Soldiers kept on fighting and moving to positions away from civilians, even after the order to surrender was recieved.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything. But I'll go too: since 9/11 one hundred thousand civilians in the middle east have been killed due to occupying forces (us). Have you seen the video footage of a U.S. chopper opening fire on a group of civilians leaving church? They apparently mistook the babies they were holding for weapons. Their response upon learning of this: "Serves them right for bringing a child into a warzone." Funny how their backyard is a warzone now.
Indeed their backyard is a warzone, perhaps the US should pull out? Or try to send in some more more 'considerate' soliders.
The relevance is that, even in the face of hopelessness, they still locked horns with their enemy while trying to minimize any potential civilian casualties. They still stared at the situation, and attempted to improve it(for themselves and their side, or what was left of it) even though they knew it was damned well over.
More considerate soldiers? Soldiers are trained to kill. They aren't sent there to talk to people; their mission is to "keep the peace" one bullet at a time.

And what were the Vietnamese rewarded with? Death. Their country still lies in ruin and is raped by conflict.

I'm not saying giving up is the solution. Far from it. I'm saying there is no solution. Well, at least not in the form of planting a few trees or handing out change to the homeless.
I simply made a suggestion man, I'm not a military expert or former serviceman, nor do I claim to have any real knowledge of war. And of course we were rewarded with death, but I think the troops knew that, that's why they tried to fight, to alleviate that feeling of helplessness, and perhaps delay to some degree, the suffering of their families and friends.

If there's no solution in the form of what one person can immediately do, why not try to conceive an idea? Humans are an innovative species, our ability to create is marred only by our ability to destroy. Write a book or something man. A 12 year old girl once addressed the United Nations, it hasn't changed much, but hey, she did something pretty big by our standards.
 

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Smeg_head said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
after all, many Vietnamese Soldiers kept on fighting and moving to positions away from civilians, even after the order to surrender was recieved.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything. But I'll go too: since 9/11 one hundred thousand civilians in the middle east have been killed due to occupying forces (us). Have you seen the video footage of a U.S. chopper opening fire on a group of civilians leaving church? They apparently mistook the babies they were holding for weapons. Their response upon learning of this: "Serves them right for bringing a child into a warzone." Funny how their backyard is a warzone now.
Indeed their backyard is a warzone, perhaps the US should pull out? Or try to send in some more more 'considerate' soliders.
The relevance is that, even in the face of hopelessness, they still locked horns with their enemy while trying to minimize any potential civilian casualties. They still stared at the situation, and attempted to improve it(for themselves and their side, or what was left of it) even though they knew it was damned well over.
More considerate soldiers? Soldiers are trained to kill. They aren't sent there to talk to people; their mission is to "keep the peace" one bullet at a time.

And what were the Vietnamese rewarded with? Death. Their country still lies in ruin and is raped by conflict.

I'm not saying giving up is the solution. Far from it. I'm saying there is no solution. Well, at least not in the form of planting a few trees or handing out change to the homeless.
I simply made a suggestion man, I'm not a military expert or former serviceman, nor do I claim to have any real knowledge of war. And of course we were rewarded with death, but I think the troops knew that, that's why they tried to fight, to alleviate that feeling of helplessness, and perhaps delay to some degree, the suffering of their families and friends.

If there's no solution in the form of what one person can immediately do, why not try to conceive an idea? Humans are an innovative species, our ability to create is marred only by our ability to destroy. Write a book or something man. A 12 year old girl once addressed the United Nations, it hasn't changed much, but hey, she did something pretty big by our standards.
You're not grasping my opinion here. I'm not saying "geez, the world sucks. How do I fix it?" No. I'm suggesting the world is doomed and what little we can do is undermined by the evil we help create. That any attempt to solve our problems is ultimately in vain and serves only to make ourselves feel better - to give us that self-created feeling of achievement, like we're doing some good.

If you wanna hand out some change or feed some homeless, great. No one is harmed and someone gets to have some warm food. Awesome. If someone wants to plant some trees, go ahead. Trees are nice. But any delusion that doing so will make actual life any better is just that - a delusion. In the end, we're screwed, lol. Do what you want or what you see as helpful, enjoy the ride, love your neighbors. This plane is going down.
 

Snowy Rainbow

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Vault101 said:
ok ok we get it life sucks, everything sucks WELL DONE,

now excuse me Im going to play games and have fun
Um... Okay? Not really sure what you're trying to contribute to the discussion there... Enjoy your game?
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
after all, many Vietnamese Soldiers kept on fighting and moving to positions away from civilians, even after the order to surrender was recieved.
I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything. But I'll go too: since 9/11 one hundred thousand civilians in the middle east have been killed due to occupying forces (us). Have you seen the video footage of a U.S. chopper opening fire on a group of civilians leaving church? They apparently mistook the babies they were holding for weapons. Their response upon learning of this: "Serves them right for bringing a child into a warzone." Funny how their backyard is a warzone now.
Indeed their backyard is a warzone, perhaps the US should pull out? Or try to send in some more more 'considerate' soliders.
The relevance is that, even in the face of hopelessness, they still locked horns with their enemy while trying to minimize any potential civilian casualties. They still stared at the situation, and attempted to improve it(for themselves and their side, or what was left of it) even though they knew it was damned well over.
More considerate soldiers? Soldiers are trained to kill. They aren't sent there to talk to people; their mission is to "keep the peace" one bullet at a time.

And what were the Vietnamese rewarded with? Death. Their country still lies in ruin and is raped by conflict.

I'm not saying giving up is the solution. Far from it. I'm saying there is no solution. Well, at least not in the form of planting a few trees or handing out change to the homeless.
I simply made a suggestion man, I'm not a military expert or former serviceman, nor do I claim to have any real knowledge of war. And of course we were rewarded with death, but I think the troops knew that, that's why they tried to fight, to alleviate that feeling of helplessness, and perhaps delay to some degree, the suffering of their families and friends.

If there's no solution in the form of what one person can immediately do, why not try to conceive an idea? Humans are an innovative species, our ability to create is marred only by our ability to destroy. Write a book or something man. A 12 year old girl once addressed the United Nations, it hasn't changed much, but hey, she did something pretty big by our standards.
You're not grasping my opinion here. I'm not saying "geez, the world sucks. How do I fix it?" No. I'm suggesting the world is doomed and what little we can do is undermined by the evil we help create. That any attempt to solve our problems is ultimately in vain and serves only to make ourselves feel better - to give us that self-created feeling of achievement, like we're doing some good.

If you wanna hand out some change or feed some homeless, great. No one is harmed and someone gets to have some warm food. Awesome. If someone wants to plant some trees, go ahead. Trees are nice. But any delusion that doing so will make actual life any better is just that - a delusion. In the end, we're screwed, lol. Do what you want or what you see as helpful, enjoy the ride, love your neighbors. This plane is going down.
Well, that was a very productive discussion. Have fun believing in this plane's doom man, I'll be busy trying to do something, I might just be deluding myself, but I ain't gonna stand by and let our children say to me; "You allowed this to happen! Why didn't you try to make a difference?! Now we must live with your mistakes!"
After all, humanity has fought through every change it has faced, this upcoming one is going to be the fucking biggest, but hey, I say; "Come at me bro, I got my pen, my tools, and my ideas right here." I will help our species(and my fatherland), even if it ends up being completely and utterly fucking useless in the first place
 

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Article didn't make me feel good, what makes ME feel good is when a community can bind together to enjoy a topic, and Escapist, you did once again. I hate society, not the government, society, the people who usually are dicks in it and I hate them, I was suicidal during my middleschool years and I fucking hated society for everything in the book.

But now, hearing people talk on a topic, thats worth it, hearing them discuss it in a polite, sophisticated manor just makes everything better in my eyes. Hearing people point out the good in something, without having others discussing it destroys the civil society, because then we might as well be cave men, hitting with rocks who we think is trying to destroy our homes. Thank goodness thats not the case.

My lesson, when a group of people, caring, sophisticated and nice make the good in all of us shine.
 

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Smeg_head said:
I will help our species(and my fatherland), even if it ends up being completely and utterly fucking useless in the first place
Good luck with that one. You'll need every ounce of it you can get.

If the Earth's still spinning and we aren't all dead in a thousand years, they'll name a mini-mall after you. Because who knows, maybe the other few billion people that tried to make a difference just had it wrong. You could be the one!
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Smeg_head said:
I will help our species(and my fatherland), even if it ends up being completely and utterly fucking useless in the first place
Good luck with that one. You'll need every ounce of it you can get.

If the Earth's still spinning and we aren't all dead in a thousand years, they'll name a mini-mall after you. Because who knows, maybe the other few billion people that tried to make a difference just had it wrong. You could be the one!
I love your enthusiasm, it's a group effort man, like hell I'll be the one. But I'll definitely try to contribute. Although I'm very sorry that we're only human, and that we're imperfect, and that in your eyes we've doomed ourselves, I'm very sorry I want to make a difference even if to you it's impossible. I don't want your sarcasm, therefore, I'm going to stop responding after this.
Have fun gaming.
 

Vault101

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Vault101 said:
ok ok we get it life sucks, everything sucks WELL DONE,

now excuse me Im going to play games and have fun
Um... Okay? Not really sure what you're trying to contribute to the discussion there... Enjoy your game?
oh I will.....

anyway my point kind of was you may think the world is screwed, but so what? youre not gonna make some of us negative or pessamistic, just like Im sure me or anyone else cant make you optimistic

or in other words...just let us happy people be happy, but anyway I guess the discussion had more point than that, so yeah carry on.
 

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Vault101 said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Vault101 said:
ok ok we get it life sucks, everything sucks WELL DONE,

now excuse me Im going to play games and have fun
Um... Okay? Not really sure what you're trying to contribute to the discussion there... Enjoy your game?
oh I will.....

anyway my point kind of was you may think the world is screwed, but so what? youre not gonna make some of us negative or pessamistic, just like Im sure me or anyone else cant make you optimistic

or in other words...just let us happy people be happy, but anyway I guess the discussion had more point than that, so yeah carry on.
Okay?

Why would I want to "make" people pessimistic or unhappy? And when did I say I was pessimistic? In fact, I actually said I wasn't a few posts ago.

Knee-jerk reactions - they are often wrong.
 

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Vault101 said:
I thourght this was a good article to share with the escapist, and see what you guys think

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-life-actually-does-get-better_p2/

you know, considereing how "in" it is to hate everyone and everything
Finally some nice stuff was posted instead of "omg the world is horrible and humanity needs to leave"

And now I will most likely get quoted by someone who wants to make me see that the world is as horrible as they view it....
 

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I love how the "identity achievement" theory is being addressed between the lines. People indeed often inherit their state of mind from how the parents raised them. This why is some people never truly discover their identity and thus do not feel in control of things. It's this sense of control that is works to make you happy.

All the small things we do in life might result in a "delusion" how are lives are good, but our life is nothing more then delusion/illusion or whatever you want to call it. All we do is perceive and interpret. There if no absolute reason to feel good or bad.
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Anezay said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
All five are mostly wrong. Yeah, life can get a lot better for some of us currently doing it bad. But most people live unhappily and die young.

Hate to be the bearer of truth, but I've never been a fan of blind hope in the doubtful.
Young?
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met_y=sp_dyn_le00_in&idim=country:USA&dl=en&hl=en&q=life+expectancy+america
Almost eighty years.
Can't argue with the "unhappy", though. That's subjective. The point of the article wasn't to start seeing the glass as half full. It was to go fill the damn thing yourself.
Sorry, I forgot the U.S was the whole world. My bad.
Then allow me to turn it around, if you have a computer and your reading cracked articles like that one, you have a luxury item, meaning you're not going to starve. So apply it to any country, even yours.