50 shades of grey

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Padwolf

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Matthew94 said:
Padwolf said:
I had one hell of a huge rant typed up in reply, but my internet crapped out and died as I was posting. I can't type it up again.
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Vault101

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Merkavar said:
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Edit: if i get banned or suspended for discussing this i guess it proves my point that it isnt acceptable. :)
its poorly written...the main charachter is a fucking idiot and the guy is an awful prat

my sister finished reading and now I am...for entertainment vale...and mabye smut, and yeah..theres smut

since it seems people are "knowlagable" about htis kind of thing I would be geniunly interested how acurate its portrals of S&M are...mainly the "drawing up a contract" thing where the guy is in control of the subs life

does that happen?
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Now, I don't have a problem with the subject matter, as I'm into it myself. I kind of have a problem with someone making a fortune off of what sounds like dime-a-dozen fanfiction, and I also have a problem with a caricature of BDSM being the first one to hit mass popularity (as if we didn't have enough of those already). Now I can't really condemn it for the second point because I haven't read it all, I've just heard extracts. But if they don't even bother with safe words, then I'd be kinda pissed. Then again romance novels always contain unhealthy relationships because otherwise they'd be veeeery short...
so far as I ve read it seems to portry S&M as a result of you being....well there being somthing wrong (at least with the case of the guy)

theres this thing where basically her agreeing to be his sub also entails him having a certain amount of control of her outside the bedroom.....
 

Lionsfan

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One of my coworkers was reading it, and while on break I asked her if I could read it. I got through a good chunk of it, but just had to stop...it's just a badly written porno book

Merkavar said:
For example at work in the office i over hear a group of women discussing the book and suggesting that others read it, describing it a mummy porn.
Now that would be interesting.

Can you imagine that?


*And then he climbed into the sarcophagus, filling the cold void with his warm life force. Eager he began to think about....*
 

Charli

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Heh, even as an avid Fanfic reader myself, knowing it once belonged to the terrible pile of Twilight fanfics is reason enough for me to avoid it.

On the good side though it means a majority of the sexually repressed tweens who USUALLY clutter the better sections of fanfiction with their bile are now all clumped up into that laughable excuse for a love story section.

So... CARRY ON. I'm all for it. Just stay out of the sections I read.
 

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Nantucket said:
It's not porn but a lot of middle aged women are gobbling it up.
It's talk of our office, the bus stop and even my mother picked it up! It's not too bad - if you have the Internet you can read a lot worse. It's written like Twilight, very simple and pandering for its audience.

Nothing special.
My girlfriend read it and likes it. Even she admits that it's porn. :p
 

Radelaide

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It's based on the universe of Twilight, referencing those characters. It's also poorly-written BDSM porn. The author hit rock bottom and kept digging.
 

FolkLikePanda

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I was on the bus and these girls were going on about how of a Romantic Love story it is. From what I've heard its just basically a BDSM Manual disguised as a novel.
 

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Just talking about it, you think people should get fired?
Your workplace is weird. My workmates used to talk about this stuff all the time, middle-aged ladies can be damn filthy minded.

Hell, at my old college a dude used to sit there and watch porn on his phone half the time.

As for the book, it's puke-tastic.
Any book with a scene of one character taking out the other's tampon is the exact opposite of sexy.
 

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The double standard has been around for a long time, actually. Most "Romance Novels" have some level of sexually explicit content in them, with a fairly large branch of them being hardcore porn written for women. Any major bookstore chain or library will have a gigantic section dedicated to these novels and middle aged women buy them up like crazy. If you're not familiar with what they look like, if you find yourself surrounded by pink books with half naked ridiculously muscled guys on the covers, you've found them.[footnote]Ironically, this has become a reason that women have cited for buying e-book readers. They can read the novels in public without people raising eyebrows at the contemptible covers that are inevitably associated with the genre.[/footnote] Meanwhile the occasional mainstream bookstore might have a shelf tucked away in back dedicated to "Erotica" and most of that is probably still geared to women, but it is somehow regarded as much less acceptable than the exact same kind of content that is packaged as a romance novel.

It is very unusual for one of these books to get this much exposure though. It's a weird confluence of the popularity of Twilight, the "out-of-effing-nowhere" status of the author, the fabricated controversy over the sex scenes, and some honest to goodness staring at a train wreck onlooking.

As for the quality, after seeing some of the hilarious dramatic readings on youtube[footnote]The one done in the style of Cookie Monster was especially funny[/footnote] I decided to try reading it myself. I didn't last until the first sex scene. The characters make the Twilight protagonists look like deep and well rounded characters. They're cardboard cutouts that were then flattened with a steamroller. The protagonist keeps constantly switches from weirdly hilarious curse filled dialogue to referencing classic literature for little to no reason. You can almost hear the author saying "See! I'm well read! See that right there! That proves I'm smart!" The awkward writing, the annoyingly shallow characters, and the incredible creepiness of the relationship before they even get to the torture sex was enough to convince me that whatever hilarity was buried in there wasn't worth the slog through the rest of the book.
 

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Check her out in the movie "Sleeping Beauty" which involves a somewhat different kinky scenario and lots of nudity.
 

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Nantucket said:
It's not porn but a lot of middle aged women are gobbling it up.
It's talk of our office, the bus stop and even my mother picked it up! It's not too bad - if you have the Internet you can read a lot worse. It's written like Twilight, very simple and pandering for its audience.

Nothing special.
Seems like the best way of putting it to me.

That said, I take serious issue with this book. The sexualization is fine. I don't really care how smutty something is.

But it infuriates me that something that is so poorly written, and that is literally a fan fic that got Ctrl+F word changed is acquiring best seller status. And from what I've heard, the BDSM community find it offensive, so yeah.

We don't include porno flicks at the Emmies and Oscars because they fail to have any decent plot or acting whatsoever, and mummy porn shouldn't be lumped in with actual literature since it's clearly on that same standard.
 

soren7550

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From Wikipedia:
Wikipedia said:
'... The Fifty Shades trilogy was developed from a Twilight fan fiction originally titled Master of the Universe and published episodically on fan-fiction websites under the pen name "Snowqueens Icedragon". ...'
This. Explains. So. Much.
 

RatRace123

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It's not porn, it's poorly written smut, and it is absolutely hilarious.
I've read it, and it's easily one of my favorite books.
 

Robert632

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Y'know, everyone talks about 50 Shades of Grey, but what about the other two novels in the trilogy? Are they basically the same?
 

Pink Gregory

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Maybe it's my age, but honestly, the cash-ins are even more shameless than any other I've seen (discounting the entire 'Dark Fantasy' section of any bookstore, which at least draws its cash-ins from more than one source).

Seriously, I noticed one the other day that I swear had THE SAME DAMN COVER as one of the 50 Shades... books, but with a different title superimposed over the top.

Fastest-selling paperback in years, this.