8 Year Old boy Kills Small Dog... With a BBQ Fork...

[Breadzombie]

Wow.
1st bread guy, you can't say that because something happens a lot that it is morally respectable. thats a fallacy. I think its a fallacy of frequency or something like that.
2nd Dragon guy, you used the same fallacy that he did to attack his argument. you can't do that. Cant remember what kind of fallacy that is; I think it is one of false premise or maybe inference.
3rd bread guy again. To counter his argument, you attacked his character, bringing up ambiguity about whether or not he cares about other people. That's a fallacy of irrelevance, you cant do that either. however, the point about comparing the life of an animal to that of a human is semi-valid.

Where did I say that ?

You seem to be under the impression that this is a debate with established rules of some sort.It is not.

Where did you say that? If that wasn't your point, what was?

Ah yes, excuse me for expecting people to make sense. if there are no rules, I guess calling you a stupid head is a legitimate argument. see how that doesn't exactly work?

You make some pretty stupid assumptions out of nowhere and expect me to explain them to you ?
Do you even know what "morally respectable" means ? I meant that it is something that society has gotten used to, in the same sense that it has gotten used to car crashes for example.It can totally be avoided, by fallowing some simple rules ,but some jerk steps on the gas and voala - 4 died in a car accident, more on that on the 22:00 news.It would have been shocking if the kid raped the dog or ate it's brain or some shit like that, but it didn't.

I really don't want to touch on the "debate" part, simply because there is no point and I don't really care what you think a debate should be, where there is non).

 

[AMMO Kid]

Thats aweful

 

[Flying Dagger]

Kill Bill anyone?

and yeah, I'm not even surprised by the lack of empathy for real people on this site anymore.
Sometimes I'm glad no one takes any notice of gamers.

 

[PayneTrayne]

Watch this end up being blamed on Mel Gibson's signs. x.x

 

[Ambi]

Maybe he should have to skin it and eat it. After all, society teaches it's okay to kill animals painfully, so long as you put their corpses to use. It doesn't make sense that the life of one dog generates so much media attention and outrage when factory farms and hunting are nothing bad at all!

Okay seriously, he should apologise after people explain to him why what he did was wrong and make him feel remorse, and his parents should compensate for the loss of another's property and discipline him as they see appropriate. Maybe he should be taken to an animal hospital or dog shelter and forced to help care for animals as an excursion.

 

[Freshman]

You make some pretty stupid assumptions out of nowhere and expect me to explain them to you ?
Do you even know what "morally respectable" means ? I meant that it is something that society has gotten used to, in the same sense that it has gotten used to car crashes for example.It can totally be avoided, by fallowing some simple rules ,but some jerk steps on the gas and voala - 4 died in a car accident, more on that on the 22:00 news.It would have been shocking if the kid raped the dog or ate it's brain or some shit like that, but it didn't.

I really don't want to touch on the "debate" part, simply because there is no point and I don't really care what you think a debate should be, where there is non).

Main Entry: moral
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin moralis, from mor-, mos custom
Date: 14th century
1 a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ethical b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior c : conforming to a standard of right behavior d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment e : capable of right and wrong action

Main Entry: respectable
Function: adjective
Date: 1599
1 : worthy of respect : estimable
2 : decent or correct in character or behavior : proper
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

Alright then, perhaps you can explain your original post to me, if my assumptions about your post have been incorrect.

And I see we have devolved to insulting adjectives. well your a dummy face

 

[Nouw]

That kid should go to a Mental Asylum or something, see how he likes it when he gets poked by a BBQ fork

 

[Peteron]

i think the child should be punished. When I was 8 I was smart enough to know the difference between right and wrong. It really sucks that the dog couldn't get away because it was on a leash. I wish there was a more severe punishment that an 8 year old could receive for killing. He should get beat down.

 

[Breadzombie]

You make some pretty stupid assumptions out of nowhere and expect me to explain them to you ?
Do you even know what "morally respectable" means ?I meant that it is something that society has gotten used to, in the same sense that it has gotten used to car crashes for example.It can totally be avoided, by fallowing some simple rules ,but some jerk steps on the gas and voala - 4 died in a car accident, more on that on the 22:00 news.It would have been shocking if the kid raped the dog or ate it's brain or some shit like that, but it didn't.

I really don't want to touch on the "debate" part, simply because there is no point and I don't really care what you think a debate should be, where there is non).

Main Entry: moral
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin moralis, from mor-, mos custom
Date: 14th century
1 a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ethical b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior c : conforming to a standard of right behavior d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment e : capable of right and wrong action

Main Entry: respectable
Function: adjective
Date: 1599
1 : worthy of respect : estimable
2 : decent or correct in character or behavior : proper
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

Alright then, perhaps you can explain your original post to me, if my assumptions about your post have been incorrect.

And I see we have devolved to insulting adjectives. well your a dummy face

I did.

I said that your assumptions where stupid not you, so please don't insult me, if you think that you are stupid for making them that's your problem. And trying to sound academic doesn't really help you at all.

 

[chiefohara]

wow.... nice kid.

Must be fun trying to find playdates for him...

 

[CarpathianMuffin]

Poor pup. >.<

I don't think the kid should be punished for it, but he should get immediate psychological care and should be carefully observed at all times for odd behavior.

 

[Fralf]

I say send him off to very fary away place because this kid seems psychotic and people like that can't be fixed. they are like this from birth, trying to change them would be like trying to make an idiot smart or a boy a girl it simply can't be done.

 

[Gasaraki]

Well he needs some sort of punishment, for fuck's sake he killed a dog.
Isn't killing small animals as a child a sign that a kid's going to become a serial killer or something?

 

[Fralf]

This is not a good thing. The parents of the kid should replace the dog, and probably also have to pay some kind of punitive damages, dogs are like a member of the family. I would be REALLY upset if someone did that to my dog.

However I think people are slightly overreacting as far as the kid is concerned. Yes, it is a quintessential "textbook" behavior for kids to kill small animals and such when they are borderline. However typically this involves mass torture or whatever, and a truely excessive behavior in the area.

Like it or not kids can be fairly cruel inherantly even without realizing it, kids do wind up capturing/killing things like frogs, or burning ants and stuff with magnifying glasses. Not to mention birds and squirrels with slingshots (or in certain areas small calibur "squirrel rifles") and similar things.

I do think the kid should be examined though for a simple reason: people have a bond with dogs and cats. Dogs are "Man's Best Friend" and kids generally take to dogs, which are very smart and personable animals. A dog is not a typical target for this kind of thing, especially a pet. Though admittedly kids tormenting dogs is not ENTIRELY unheard of.

It bears some looking into, but really kids have been killing small critters since the dawn of time. While I suppose some sheltered people might freak, put it into the perspective that if some kid took out a squirrel or a chipmunk with a slingshot, most people wouldn't even bat an eye.

Heck, while I never did it, my dad tells me that he used to go around with other kids and kill squirrels and stuff and then cook them on a grill and eat them.

So this case strikes me as being mildly alarming on it's own simply because it's a domesticated dog. However we're not at the "OMG, it's Dexter in his developmental years!" or "We need to stop this kid before he's the next Michael Ross or Ted Bundy" level yet.

yes but it's the savargy of kill that seperates the psychos from the regular kids, from the eye witness reports the kid stabbed it mutiple times aliv or not that's fucked up.

 

[Jinjiro]

It actually been proven that something upwards of 70% of all serial murders engaged in either frequent abuse and killing of small animals or arson when they were young. multiple times.

It's also been proven that 100% of all rapists breath. DID YOU JUST INHALE YOU FILTHY MOTHER- statistics like that are meaningless.

Not really, breathing is something all humans do, whereas not all humans partake in the needless killing of household pets or small woodland creatures, or setting shit on fire.

 

[Freshman]

You make some pretty stupid assumptions out of nowhere and expect me to explain them to you ?
Do you even know what "morally respectable" means ?I meant that it is something that society has gotten used to, in the same sense that it has gotten used to car crashes for example.It can totally be avoided, by fallowing some simple rules ,but some jerk steps on the gas and voala - 4 died in a car accident, more on that on the 22:00 news.It would have been shocking if the kid raped the dog or ate it's brain or some shit like that, but it didn't.

I really don't want to touch on the "debate" part, simply because there is no point and I don't really care what you think a debate should be, where there is non).

Main Entry: moral
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin moralis, from mor-, mos custom
Date: 14th century
1 a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ethical b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior c : conforming to a standard of right behavior d : sanctioned by or operative on one's conscience or ethical judgment e : capable of right and wrong action

Main Entry: respectable
Function: adjective
Date: 1599
1 : worthy of respect : estimable
2 : decent or correct in character or behavior : proper
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

Alright then, perhaps you can explain your original post to me, if my assumptions about your post have been incorrect.

And I see we have devolved to insulting adjectives. well your a dummy face

I did.

I said that your assumptions where stupid not you, so please don't insult me, if you think that you are stupid for making them that's your problem. And trying to sound academic doesn't really help you at all.

Ok, I said that your argument was because something happens alot, it is morally sound.
You said that society has gotten used to it, so its not a big deal. I seems I was wrong about your argument, i apologize. However, the amount of people on this thread calling for blood leads me to beleive that this is not something that society is used to. If someone starts a thread about a no-less-tragic car accident, I do not beleive that lynch mobs would be forming

Oh, Only my assumptions are stupid, my mistake. Some people would almost be insulted /sarcasm. And sorry that my oratory style is too "academic." I had no intention of using that as evidence.

 

[Elf Defiler Korgan]

Get him to a therapist, get him to a therapist, I am reading this over and over. You people actually trust those quacks? Those aspiring high priests who want to adjust our thought according to their powerful discipline.

My thoughts are that the family should keep a closer eye on him, make him understand in time what death is, what is morality. Instruction and patience will yield a better result then turning him over to the quacks, who will diagnose him with all sorts of problems. Stabbing him with a bbq fork is also the stabbing of a small child, who in all likeihood had little idea of the consequences of killing a small dog. Socialise him with care over punishment I say.

 

[Antidrall]

I will take him to the realm of the furries, use him as bait to attract a lizardine, allow it to bite him in order to inject it's venom. The next day when he turns into a furry (most likely a cat bastard or wolf b***h. I will then rip him limb from limb with my bare hands.

 

[Breadzombie]

However, the amount of people on this thread calling for blood leads me to beleive that this is not something that society is used to.

The Escapist represents a small demographic that while part of society it does not represent it as an whole.I'm also quite sure that society would find people calling for the murder/torture/maiming of an 8 year old over the death of a dog far more disturbing than the deed the kid did.
Think about it for a second.People wage full out war against death sentence for adults.If anyone of you here is actually physically able to harm a child and find it disturbing that a child killed a dog, something not even that shocking or unheard of , should bite the bullet on their own free will.
I mean there are people here , saying that if this was their child they would do *insert whatever* to them.Seriously? If you people think like that then I honest to God hope that you never have a child of your own. And over what ? The possibility that their son will grow up to be Hitler ? As a matter of fact I bet Hitler didn't beat a dog with a bbq fork and look how great that worked out for him.
Hell, I know a guy that killed kittens with a hammer when he was a child.KITTENS WITH A HAMMER.Now he's a doctor and has saved more lives than you people ever will.Maybe we should have chopped his hands off, just in case.
The fucked up thing is you guys don't realise how fucked up all of this is.