8 Year Old boy Kills Small Dog... With a BBQ Fork...

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Jack_Uzi

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I don't agree with what the kid did. But do you think he will learn or we will understand (maybe even for the future youth) why he did this by doing the same thing to him? Nobody gets any wiser from it except for the fact that an eye for an eye is the way to go.
 

Omikron009

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This is why kids suck.

As for his punishment, I don't know, how about if someone stab him with a BBQ fork?
I couldn't agree with you more. The child would be stabbed non-fatally, but seriously wounded, and he would be left for half an hour without medical attention.
 

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JanatUrlich said:
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I think that it's a dog so I don't really care.
Yeah! Who cares about the fact that killing is generally bad! It's a dog! So let's kill them all! Yeah! I'll gather up the pitchforks, you get the torches! Let's go dog hunting!
Ooooh come the fuck on! You make snap judgements between species too! You wouldn't hesitate to smack a spider to death but oh noooo it's a doooog you totally can't kill dogs! It's so different! Slightly hypocritical that.

Nah mate, I don't wanna kill dogs, you can do that yourself. All I'm saying is that when a dog does die, I'm not gonna waste time crying about it.
I remember seeing/reading about this one case where a young boy between the ages of 6 and 10, taking a younger boy who was 4 years old out into the forest and strangled him to death. (Please excuse the vagueness of this post, it's been a while and I don't remember where I heard of it exactly.)

While you may not care that it was a dog, the kid could have easily done this to another person, or at the very least have tried to if the other person was older. I say try because to take a sharp object and beat something to death with it is like a carpenter trying to hammer a nail with a cutting saw.

While no one asked you to care for the dog, to dismiss the whole thing completely is just silly. If you don't care, why read it? Why even bother taking the time to comment? Especially knowing full well that you're most likely going to get a negative response.

What if it was your dog? Heck, what if an 8 year old kidnapped a younger member of your family and beat them to death and some one told you they didn't care because they don't like dogs or children?

If you don't care, don't read...
 

stumpy107

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I would lock him in a room with a load of dog pics while the "dora the explorer" theme tube repeats constantly
 

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Freshman said:
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OK, read it and what I've discovered
1. It is entirely possible that something is seriously fucked up in this boys life that makes him want to kill a dog. possible being the key word here.
2. assuming that #1 is true, something must be seriously wrong with society around this lad. you don't go from being seen as normal to killing dogs, so either he was fucked up for some time and nobody did anything about it, or #1 is wrong.
3. You said that you've covered this, but basically all you've done is keep defending the boy because he is 8. I guess we can't say that for sure he isnt just a little *****, but based on other 8 year olds, it is the assumption to make
Was talking about the value of life bit and that in fact children DO not understand the value of life.We'll ye some might, but most don't.Children might know that killing is bad, but don't understand why and don't put the life of an ant,cat or dog on the same level as a humans.
Also, ye it's possible that something is fucked up with this kid, but statistics wise more likely not, than yes.Am not saying nothing should be done, it should be , by his parents.
 

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Breadzombie said:
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I really don't see what the big deal is all about.

It happens all the time.We'll not exactly like that, but children tend to kill small animals A LOT.After all they are children what the fuck do they know about the value of a life.
Just like we shouldn't really care if anyone is kidnapped or murdered. I mean, it happens all the time, right? So, if someone you cared about was murdered, we really shouldn't care...because...it happens all the time. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Really, though. What kind of message does that send out? Should we really be that desensitized?
Wow, that is some second grade logic right there.
1.You can't seriously compare a kid killing an animal to grown men/women taking another persons life.You just can't.
2.I don't care for the dog, because it wasn't mine.If it was I'd be pissed off, but jeez I wound't kill the kid , just yell at him.
3.Tell me , do you REALLY care when you hear that someone that you don't know has been murdered or kidnapped.Be honest with yourself.If you do, then good for you, you would make a great cop.
Wow.
1st bread guy, you can't say that because something happens a lot that it is morally respectable. thats a fallacy. I think its a fallacy of frequency or something like that.
2nd Dragon guy, you used the same fallacy that he did to attack his argument. you can't do that. Cant remember what kind of fallacy that is; I think it is one of false premise or maybe inference.
3rd bread guy again. To counter his argument, you attacked his character, bringing up ambiguity about whether or not he cares about other people. That's a fallacy of irrelevance, you cant do that either. however, the point about comparing the life of an animal to that of a human is semi-valid.
 

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That little mental chunk of shit! I say we go beat HIM with a barbeque fork!

Just wait someone will blame video games and then there will be anger anger rage rage when really HE'S A MENTAL SHIT THAT NEEDS TO BE ERADICATED
DUDE CALM DOWN! What is done is done. Don't be a ass and asked for the kid's head or you will just give them 2 example instead of one.
I'll admit it was over the top but someone killed my dog it was also tied up so it brings back bad memories
 

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burntheartist said:
Breadzombie said:
I really don't see what the big deal is all about.

It happens all the time.We'll not exactly like that, but children tend to kill small animals A LOT.After all they are children what the fuck do they know about the value of a life.
Particularly with the fact that most parents across the world now are asshats.

Stupid people breeding make new stupid people. The way of the world.

I just hate that laws protect them now. I'd BBQ fork the lot of'em.
Pff, I can bet you that our parents/grandparents generation had a lot more child animal killings then ours.A LOT more ways to vent anger nowadays.
 

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generic gamer said:
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EDIT: Also mental illness is an actual illness. You wouldn't kill someone with rickets or the flu, why kill someone who's mentally ill?
Firstly, you can't assume that because people are suggesting euthanization of a person who may happen to be mentally ill, that they are advocating this for all mentally ill people

Secondly people with rickets are not a danger to others (Gimme the money, or I'll break my bones in your general direction). People with the flu are generally only a danger to the very old and very young. (So yea, i would advocate death for somebody purposely introducing Flu to at risk groups). People who derive joy from extinguishing life ARE a danger to others.
If someone's mentally ill then any attendant craziness is a symptom of their illness, an illness that can be cured a lot of the time. A lot of the problem is that people seem to feel entitled to give opinions in the Internet in the sure knowledge that they'll never be acted on.

Frankly I'm always a little more worried about the number of people on here who'd kill indiscriminately because they were allowed to. It's hard to know which is worse, the thought that someone could die because some people believe it's right, or that people on here know they'd never go through with it and that they still say it anyway.
I agree. if it can be cured, then good, let them back, but make sure that it doesn't relapse. I don't feel that modern society will keep close enough tabs on these individuals.

I would say that you can rest easy on these people actually killing most of those they claim. I advocated death for the little bastard because I'm super pissed off about this. people do not think clearly when they are angry. If i come back in an hour or so, I'll probably have changed my mind. In my case at least, its a way to vent on the countless injustices that I can do nothing about.
 

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JanatUrlich said:
Crash 9000 said:
JanatUrlich said:
I think that it's a dog so I don't really care.
Yeah! Who cares about the fact that killing is generally bad! It's a dog! So let's kill them all! Yeah! I'll gather up the pitchforks, you get the torches! Let's go dog hunting!
Ooooh come the fuck on! You make snap judgements between species too! You wouldn't hesitate to smack a spider to death but oh noooo it's a doooog you totally can't kill dogs! It's so different! Slightly hypocritical that.

Nah mate, I don't wanna kill dogs, you can do that yourself. All I'm saying is that when a dog does die, I'm not gonna waste time crying about it.
Well silly, there is a large difference between killing a spider in your house with a quick whack with a shoe to killing a defenseless dog that is out of your way.

Just like killing a man in your house with a bullet between the eyes is a lot different from say... finding a disabled man and getting to work on him with a large fork.
 

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I think the child should be made subject psychological and emotional testing and then the parents should go from there. Either way, they need to find out what reasoning this child had behind killing the dog.
 

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Freshman said:
Breadzombie said:
Dragonhammer79 said:
Breadzombie said:
I really don't see what the big deal is all about.

It happens all the time.We'll not exactly like that, but children tend to kill small animals A LOT.After all they are children what the fuck do they know about the value of a life.
Just like we shouldn't really care if anyone is kidnapped or murdered. I mean, it happens all the time, right? So, if someone you cared about was murdered, we really shouldn't care...because...it happens all the time. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Really, though. What kind of message does that send out? Should we really be that desensitized?
Wow, that is some second grade logic right there.
1.You can't seriously compare a kid killing an animal to grown men/women taking another persons life.You just can't.
2.I don't care for the dog, because it wasn't mine.If it was I'd be pissed off, but jeez I wound't kill the kid , just yell at him.
3.Tell me , do you REALLY care when you hear that someone that you don't know has been murdered or kidnapped.Be honest with yourself.If you do, then good for you, you would make a great cop.
Wow.
1st bread guy, you can't say that because something happens a lot that it is morally respectable. thats a fallacy. I think its a fallacy of frequency or something like that.
2nd Dragon guy, you used the same fallacy that he did to attack his argument. you can't do that. Cant remember what kind of fallacy that is; I think it is one of false premise or maybe inference.
3rd bread guy again. To counter his argument, you attacked his character, bringing up ambiguity about whether or not he cares about other people. That's a fallacy of irrelevance, you cant do that either. however, the point about comparing the life of an animal to that of a human is semi-valid.
Where did I say that ?

You seem to be under the impression that this is a debate with established rules of some sort.It is not.
 

Jack_Uzi

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Freshman said:
Breadzombie said:
Dragonhammer79 said:
Breadzombie said:
I really don't see what the big deal is all about.

It happens all the time.We'll not exactly like that, but children tend to kill small animals A LOT.After all they are children what the fuck do they know about the value of a life.
Just like we shouldn't really care if anyone is kidnapped or murdered. I mean, it happens all the time, right? So, if someone you cared about was murdered, we really shouldn't care...because...it happens all the time. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Really, though. What kind of message does that send out? Should we really be that desensitized?
Wow, that is some second grade logic right there.
1.You can't seriously compare a kid killing an animal to grown men/women taking another persons life.You just can't.
2.I don't care for the dog, because it wasn't mine.If it was I'd be pissed off, but jeez I wound't kill the kid , just yell at him.
3.Tell me , do you REALLY care when you hear that someone that you don't know has been murdered or kidnapped.Be honest with yourself.If you do, then good for you, you would make a great cop.
Wow.
1st bread guy, you can't say that because something happens a lot that it is morally respectable. thats a fallacy. I think its a fallacy of frequency or something like that.
2nd Dragon guy, you used the same fallacy that he did to attack his argument. you can't do that. Cant remember what kind of fallacy that is; I think it is one of false premise or maybe inference.
3rd bread guy again. To counter his argument, you attacked his character, bringing up ambiguity about whether or not he cares about other people. That's a fallacy of irrelevance, you cant do that either. however, the point about comparing the life of an animal to that of a human is semi-valid.
Don't forget Freshman that if something happens frequently it sooner or later will be morally respectable. People just think that it's okay because they see it every day.

Don't tell people what they should or shouldn't do. You are not their father.

Who are you to tell on peoples opinion if they are valid or not? It's THEIR opinion and valid enough for them to speak about. It's valid in the eye of the beholder or it isn't.
 

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The kid is eight. He should know the difference between right and wrong by now. Little SOB should be arrested and charged, as a minor, yes, but still charged.