Thats fine. But how many of these games are rated 15 or 18+ and how many of these parents allow there kids to play these games?
89 percent of US parents believe game violence a problem
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Common sense Media yeah thy are really bias as a group i think they were the ones that were organizing book burnings of harry potter books back when it was really taking off but i could be wrong.
Plus how many people were polled 100? a 1000? really empirical data there.
Plus how many people were polled 100? a 1000? really empirical data there.
a meager 1000 people can actually be a worthwhile sample size if done right. Assuming it is a random selection over a country wide survey, it can offer a fairly decent picture of averages.
But given this is by "common sense media" I doubt that was done. And I doubt the survey was anything but leading. Hell, you can see it in the way it presents "89% say violent games are a problem" when that itself is unrepresentative of the data they took. Bias is an understatement here.
But given this is by "common sense media" I doubt that was done. And I doubt the survey was anything but leading. Hell, you can see it in the way it presents "89% say violent games are a problem" when that itself is unrepresentative of the data they took. Bias is an understatement here.
They did that particular stat with a multiple choice question, followed by smooshing together two of the categories:Saladfork said:
Q9 - Is the violence in today's video games a major problem? A minor problem? Or not a problem at all?
Responses (1050 of them in total, apparently) were 45% major problem, 44% minor problem, 8% not a problem and 2% not sure.
45 + 44 = 89% and Bob's your uncle, there's a headline grabbing stat. Never mind the fact that half those respondents only rated it as a "minor" problem and none of them actually defined what "problem" was to begin with
Don't worry. They will all die out soon enough.
OT: Doesn't surprise me in a least, but it does make me really sad. My parents luckily can know the difference between on screen violence and real life violence. If anything, it's the ignorance to the fact that it isn't real that is the problem. A psycho will be a still be a psycho no matter what entertainment pursuit he follows. Do violent books make us want to kill? No. Does anyone blame them for people killing? Fuck no. It should be the same "problem" (if it were one) to these people.
Oh yeah, that's right. That's because apparently people who think video games and movies are a problem is not because of the idea, but the "visual" part. Which, in all honesty, is stupid.
OT: Doesn't surprise me in a least, but it does make me really sad. My parents luckily can know the difference between on screen violence and real life violence. If anything, it's the ignorance to the fact that it isn't real that is the problem. A psycho will be a still be a psycho no matter what entertainment pursuit he follows. Do violent books make us want to kill? No. Does anyone blame them for people killing? Fuck no. It should be the same "problem" (if it were one) to these people.
Oh yeah, that's right. That's because apparently people who think video games and movies are a problem is not because of the idea, but the "visual" part. Which, in all honesty, is stupid.
This was done by Common Sense Media, the guys who helped get the 2005 California law passed banning the sale of violent games to minors, a law which was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
They are a group that advocates for the government regulation and censorship of protect speech. It should surprise no one that their poll had these results.
No one here should freak out about this, as with the recent case that determined video games are protected speech deserving of First Amendment protection means that no matter what kind of BS laws these moral panic plebes try and pass will likely be challenged successfully in court.
They are a group that advocates for the government regulation and censorship of protect speech. It should surprise no one that their poll had these results.
No one here should freak out about this, as with the recent case that determined video games are protected speech deserving of First Amendment protection means that no matter what kind of BS laws these moral panic plebes try and pass will likely be challenged successfully in court.
Stupid poll, even I believe games can cause violence in the real world. Of course they can. I also happen to believe Vending machines can be dangerous. Doesn't mean we should ban them.
Statistics do seem very inaccurate. More like 89% of people who care enough about video game violence to participate in a survey on it believe that video game violence is a problem. Overall its a pretty damn useless study even if the statistics are accurate, just because parents think they are a problem doesn't mean they actually are a problem. I'm really sick of these bullshit and heavily flawed and biased to the point of pointlessness experiments that are passed off as 'studies' as if they actually have some kind of scientific or logical merit.Ryotknife said:
How many of those 89% know about parental controls available on consoles? How many actually know what the ESRB ratings actually mean? How many of those parents still allow their kids to play these games regardless?
It is true, violence in video games does promote violent tendencies, but ONLY for a period of a about 30 minutes immediately after playing. And this is simply because when in simulated combat (like an fps) our adrenaline goes up and we get into the "fight or flight mode" 30 minutes later we go back to being perfectly well adjusted individuals.
My mother says that video games have made me docile & wishes she'd bought me a console or at least some more Mac II games back in the 80s.
I hear you. I'm, quite frankly, fucking sick of people making mountains out of molehills.RTSnab said:
Sadly, yes. Most people in this country believe whatever crap people make up. Example, when Obama was first running for office and everyone was going on about how he was a socialist. None of those people even knew what a socialist was, they just saw it as "bad" and started repeating it.Moth_Monk said:
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They really need to include a "Do you play video games?" or "How often?" question to the beginning of these surveys/studies. Most the people that say that don't play them, like how most the people who were in favor of SOPA knew nothing about pirating, and the people screaming "ban assault rifles!" have no idea what an "assault rifle" actually is.