A new name for harassers/extremists
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...but I call some of my best friends ****.Total LOLige said:
I liked yhatzee's Dickbag.
...maybe I should rephrase that.
He commented on the "situation" going on, and wished that the whole thing could turn into a "non dickbag vs dickbags" issue instead.
I know that it's meant as a joke, I just think it's counterproductive. I have similar objections when it comes to people decrying slut-shaming by way of virgin-shaming. The message simply isn't as convincing when you're doing the very thing you're decrying (or something close to it).Colour Scientist said:
what ever it is I think it should have a connection to troll because when you get right down to it that's hat they are gender biased trolls
or perhaps we could name them after an annoying and common game enemy or something
or perhaps we could name them after an annoying and common game enemy or something
As I said this is not the place and for some unknown reason I'm constantly getting message that messaging through proxy is nor allowed when I tray to PM you. I need to have a word with my provider.AkaDad said:
Anyway, in short, Canada, 10 year slice, self reported
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-x/85-224-x2010000-eng.pdf
I will not discuss it further here, it's derailing the thread and you can find other posts where I had similar bouts if you are that interested.
I don't know what exactly feminists are really fighting for on the games side of things - I'm supposing less female characters whose outfit is essentially 80% skin? - but I know that they shouldn't be harassed by subhumans who either say these things because they feel invincible behind their shroud of anonymity, or because they actually believe these things and, as such, should be purged from the human gene pool as soon as possible. If you make rape/death threats, whether or not you're serious, you deserve some very harsh jail time - either you're being kept away from the decent public, or you're being taught that there is some shit you just don't joke about.
I wish threats/harassment on the internet was taken more seriously, by sites and the authorities in general. If a woman is called on the phone by some stranger and threatened, won't the police work to track down the caller and arrest them? Why is it different with the internet? I can understand if the threat's from a different country, I don't know how things go with a threat made through a long-distance phone call, but on a website a perma-ban should be made more common.
And yes, permanently banning one account won't stop the subhuman from simply making a new account. In that case, track down the person making those same accounts, THEN have the authorities knocking on their door and bringing them in. This really doesn't sound that unreasonable; internet correspondence is bigger today than anyone could predict, letting people chat with others all over the world - as such, we should make it so those who abuse their anonymity to be assholes are punished like the children that they are.
...Oh, right, OT: erm... Gnolls?
I wish threats/harassment on the internet was taken more seriously, by sites and the authorities in general. If a woman is called on the phone by some stranger and threatened, won't the police work to track down the caller and arrest them? Why is it different with the internet? I can understand if the threat's from a different country, I don't know how things go with a threat made through a long-distance phone call, but on a website a perma-ban should be made more common.
And yes, permanently banning one account won't stop the subhuman from simply making a new account. In that case, track down the person making those same accounts, THEN have the authorities knocking on their door and bringing them in. This really doesn't sound that unreasonable; internet correspondence is bigger today than anyone could predict, letting people chat with others all over the world - as such, we should make it so those who abuse their anonymity to be assholes are punished like the children that they are.
...Oh, right, OT: erm... Gnolls?
While "c--t" is a lovely word and all, it still insults people with that body part every time it is used negatively. My female equipment isn't a violent cyber-extremist, and I don't think violent cyber-extremists are delicious enough to be compared to my female equipment.
A word will come, and when it does, it'll be awesome. Until then... idk.
A word will come, and when it does, it'll be awesome. Until then... idk.
Ironically, describing yourself as a gameaphile would make most people more likely to think you're a tosspot.small said:
OT: Can we shorten game **** to gunt? Gunt. As in stop being a complete fucking gunt Dave. Like that.
That's what it wants you to think.Maevine said:
Hence why I'll stick to what seems like the only valid option; i.e. any non-gender-specific insult I can think of at the particular moment. Right now, I think I'll just call them morons. Maybe assholes, at a later date. Both genders have assholes, so that works.SexyGarfield said:
Unless there's Argonians or Salarians somewhere in the mix. Then I'll have to call them Cloacas.
You make a good point, but anonymous online-only asshats generally already have names - trolls, griefer, etc.Velventian said:
We use words like "harrassment" and such when these things have a more palpable real-world effect, which is as it should be. Nobody gets arrested for griefing or trolling, but when it turns to prolonged harrassment, real-life threats, then you're getting into known crimes and sticking with known words does more good for everyone in the long run than inventing new words by way of saying "but everyone else TOTALLY wasn't okay with it".
Just to be clear when you say "extremists" I assume that you mean both MRA neck-beards AND femiNazis right? Anyway previous people in the thread suggested "****" my only problem with that is that it isn't descriptive enough to separate them from your regular garden variety douche bags. Furthermore it isn't culturally sensitive as in my country, (Australia) the word "****" is frequently used as a term of endearment. I think "Gender Debate Fundamentalist Fuckwits (GDFF)" is a nice term. However I think the core problem is that people who possibly lean in one direction but aren't actually "extremists" (*Coughs* Jim Sterling, JonTron *coughs*) will end up getting put in this category for ad-hominem purposes.
Do you apply the same principal to calling someone a dick? If you're fine with someone being called a dick (as most people seem to be), why is someone being called a **** 'insulting people with that body part every time it is used negatively'?Maevine said:
I have to agree with you on that. In my opinion thats the equalist(according to some not feminisim) point of view is. If men and women are to be seen equal then whats the difference between the insults "****" and "dick".Megalodon said:
Either we allow both insults to be used on both genders or we limit either insult to its specific gender.
Again, if men and women are to be seen as equal, which is kinda the idea i got what feminism is, then why should there be a difference on how are allowed to apply these insults?
