A question for our non-smoking, non-drinking, non-recreational-drugs-using, romance seeking Escapees
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I drink, smoke (only when i drink. In my eyes being addicted to things is a waste of money and time) and sometimes do drugs. I still think of sex as being something special, but that's just me. Oh wait, IT'S NEVER JUST ME!
Anyways, yeah i like my life. Could use a girlfriend though
Anyways, yeah i like my life. Could use a girlfriend though
Well, that's good, seeing as OP did get self-righteous about indulging in them.BonsaiK said:
But anyway, to make things short, I think the smell and taste of smoke is vile and horrifyingly disgusting, I do drink occasionally with good company, I haven't really tried drugs (yet), so I can't comment, and, well, the romance thing with someone my age is kind of...muddled. But even with abstaining from most of these activities that you talked about, I've always been an incredibly optimistic person, and rare are those times when I'm not happy. I can find enjoyment (something I would never get from smokes) out of other things (as smokes only make me feel worse and unhappier) than what you described.
Even though alcohol can make things really fun, it's in no way an exclusive method to be happy.
But to answer the OP's question in even some capacity, I'll say that I can understand how people who you targeted are happy.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.218206-Am-I-an-oddityReckzB said:
And any topic that has something to do with smoking is a good one, too.
I wholeheartedly agree. Although in my case it's openly boasting of the holier-than-thou attitude.ReckzB said:
This when it comes to sex. I want to have sex and I wouldn't mind casual sex to a degree but its the matter that I can't find a girl willing to be with me.Palademon said:
Have never smoked, no booze for 12 years, no drugs for 8...
I'm as happy as a clam. I never equated a chemical rush with happiness, one never felt the same as the other to me. I've never met anyone who I like more when they were drunk/stoned.
Honestly, it always felt lazy and cowardly to alter your perceptions and emotions externally and then claim it as happiness, rather than trying to reach a point where you can sit - quiet, sober, alone - and feel happy without needing to change something with chemicals.
But again, this is merely my opinion, and I don't question others who want to do it.
I'm as happy as a clam. I never equated a chemical rush with happiness, one never felt the same as the other to me. I've never met anyone who I like more when they were drunk/stoned.
Honestly, it always felt lazy and cowardly to alter your perceptions and emotions externally and then claim it as happiness, rather than trying to reach a point where you can sit - quiet, sober, alone - and feel happy without needing to change something with chemicals.
But again, this is merely my opinion, and I don't question others who want to do it.
I don't drink (have, and have no problem with it, just don't do it), I don't smoke: Don't like it, never will and I am vocal in my dislike of it to family, and I do not do drugs.
Sex is well, sex, hell I can be just as crazy about it as most.
In the end though, I am incredibly happy:
I have a great job, I keep myself fit by eating right and excising, in fact I get my kicks out of my work, my adventurous outdoor activities and I genuinely like the healthy food (Steak's healthy right... right??!!??)
I get my kicks elsewhere then drinking, smoking, drugs or sex... but kudos to those that DO enjoy those things.
Sex is well, sex, hell I can be just as crazy about it as most.
In the end though, I am incredibly happy:
I have a great job, I keep myself fit by eating right and excising, in fact I get my kicks out of my work, my adventurous outdoor activities and I genuinely like the healthy food (Steak's healthy right... right??!!??)
I get my kicks elsewhere then drinking, smoking, drugs or sex... but kudos to those that DO enjoy those things.
Well it's fine if you see and live life like that in my opinion, OP, but I personally think drinking until smashed regularly and taking drugs is a bit stupid, as there are obvious risks involved. Come to think of it though, I'm being pretty hypocritical, as I enjoy things in life that have risks in them.Spinozaad said:
Last night I was at a Prodigy Concert, and when in the mosh pit, get smacked hard in the stomach, which, after medical analysis and me being sick twice, very nearly damaged my spleen badly. So after reconsidering, I think it's ok to live like you live, but it's not for me frankly, I easily find other ways to be happy. Like, say, music concerts. Sure I'm exhausted and got beaten about pretty badly after half a day raving, but it was easily the best night of my life so far.
So yes, I'm a very happy person, and I do none of the following: smoking, drinking or drugs.
Story time!
Well, many years ago, in country far far away, AngloDoom had a girlfriend. This girlfriend of his decided she didn't want to be with him due to them growing apart. Anglo was fine with this, and was actually pretty pleased when she wanted to be what is known as 'fuckbuddies'. It was all fine after a while, but then Anglo realised he was missing out on a genuinely loving relationship with someone close to him who was becoming quite attached. Anglo decided to stop being fuckbuddies with his ex to try and pursue that more 'Hollywood romance' kind of thing.
AngloDoom's ex, however, was not pleased. She emotionally blackmailed him several times - whining, crying, pleading just 'one more time' like a fuckin' addict - taking advantage of his once soft heart and weak willpower. In the end, Anglo said "No more! I mean it!".
Then came the New Year's party. In this party, Anglo's ex walked around in lingerie, and Anglo - who was not a big drinker - was pissed and was repeatedly having his drinks topped up by his ex. Then, when Anglo was hardly able to stand, she pushed him to the floor and got on top. At the time, Anglo loved it. Afterwards, he realised he'd let himself down and the girl close to him whom was growing more attached was now growing distant due to not trusting him.
Anglo was angry at himself as much as this girl, and so laid down the law that he'd not drink until he grew a spine. He told this to his ex and told her he wanted nothing more. She again, cried, he told her to "grow up". Later, AngloDoom, received threatening phone-calls in classes, at home, in the middle of the night, all saying he had raped his ex and that people wanted him dead.
AngloDoom sorted the issue out, now drinks (but moderately) and doesn't use drugs because of the feeling of losing control reminded him of worse-off days.
tldr; I fucked myself over and now not having a clear head scares me.
Well, many years ago, in country far far away, AngloDoom had a girlfriend. This girlfriend of his decided she didn't want to be with him due to them growing apart. Anglo was fine with this, and was actually pretty pleased when she wanted to be what is known as 'fuckbuddies'. It was all fine after a while, but then Anglo realised he was missing out on a genuinely loving relationship with someone close to him who was becoming quite attached. Anglo decided to stop being fuckbuddies with his ex to try and pursue that more 'Hollywood romance' kind of thing.
AngloDoom's ex, however, was not pleased. She emotionally blackmailed him several times - whining, crying, pleading just 'one more time' like a fuckin' addict - taking advantage of his once soft heart and weak willpower. In the end, Anglo said "No more! I mean it!".
Then came the New Year's party. In this party, Anglo's ex walked around in lingerie, and Anglo - who was not a big drinker - was pissed and was repeatedly having his drinks topped up by his ex. Then, when Anglo was hardly able to stand, she pushed him to the floor and got on top. At the time, Anglo loved it. Afterwards, he realised he'd let himself down and the girl close to him whom was growing more attached was now growing distant due to not trusting him.
Anglo was angry at himself as much as this girl, and so laid down the law that he'd not drink until he grew a spine. He told this to his ex and told her he wanted nothing more. She again, cried, he told her to "grow up". Later, AngloDoom, received threatening phone-calls in classes, at home, in the middle of the night, all saying he had raped his ex and that people wanted him dead.
AngloDoom sorted the issue out, now drinks (but moderately) and doesn't use drugs because of the feeling of losing control reminded him of worse-off days.
tldr; I fucked myself over and now not having a clear head scares me.
i dont smoke becuase it smells bad and looks stupid if your cool level isnt already bordering on superhuman.
i dont really see the appeal in recreational drugs (yes alcohol is included, and yes it should be legalized for recreational use if its production doesn't involve anything that can eat through steel) though i havent tried any since i was very young, i haven't been able to afford an even more dulled awareness of my surroundings and social skills due to my absurdly machiavellian (mangled spelling i know) upbringing.
i do not seek romance but i doubt i would have sex without it. i don't think casual sex is a good fit for my oddly wired brain and unusual psychology, but do whatever, it sounds fun.
and yes it sucks, but only because everyone else of my persuasion on these issues, which are crucial to a social life at my age, is a fanatical christian or muslim; i disapprove of this, especially their tendency to try and set me on fire*.
i would not say my life is boring though, there's always been plenty of conspiracy tragedy angst violence drama and non-recreational drugs to keep things exciting.
*you have no idea how irritating that is. also; nothing ruins a friendship like immolation.
i dont really see the appeal in recreational drugs (yes alcohol is included, and yes it should be legalized for recreational use if its production doesn't involve anything that can eat through steel) though i havent tried any since i was very young, i haven't been able to afford an even more dulled awareness of my surroundings and social skills due to my absurdly machiavellian (mangled spelling i know) upbringing.
i do not seek romance but i doubt i would have sex without it. i don't think casual sex is a good fit for my oddly wired brain and unusual psychology, but do whatever, it sounds fun.
and yes it sucks, but only because everyone else of my persuasion on these issues, which are crucial to a social life at my age, is a fanatical christian or muslim; i disapprove of this, especially their tendency to try and set me on fire*.
i would not say my life is boring though, there's always been plenty of conspiracy tragedy angst violence drama and non-recreational drugs to keep things exciting.
*you have no idea how irritating that is. also; nothing ruins a friendship like immolation.
Since I started drinking i've only become 1 point stupiderrapidoud said:
Serisouly though, yeah drinking with my friends and having fun from time to time makes me happy (odd, isn't it?).. God i'd have a boring ass life if i didn't do these things sometimes.
But hey, as my mom always say, everything is relative. Depends on who you are, right?
Let me add something in bold, because people seem to misunderstand me. Either willingly or not. Perhaps it's my pathetic grasp of the English language. In any case... Well... Just follow me closely.
I'm not saying that doing drugs, getting drunk, smoking cigarettes brings you happiness in itself. Sure, you'll get a boost of happiness but abuse (of anything) will only get you chasing the dragon.
What I'm getting at is a socio-cultural thing. You might not want to lose control, but why wouldn't you? Losing control, if done in moderation, is fun. Sure, alcohol is bad for you. Sure, tobacco is bad for you. Sure,2C-B isn't really bad for you snorting coke on a regular basis isn't exactly a good idea. Having loads of unprotected sex is a bad idea (although loads of protected sex isn't, in my eyes).
But why abstain from all of it, in total?
That's what I don't get.
That's why I'm wondering if you're actually happy
I'm not saying that doing drugs, getting drunk, smoking cigarettes brings you happiness in itself. Sure, you'll get a boost of happiness but abuse (of anything) will only get you chasing the dragon.
What I'm getting at is a socio-cultural thing. You might not want to lose control, but why wouldn't you? Losing control, if done in moderation, is fun. Sure, alcohol is bad for you. Sure, tobacco is bad for you. Sure,
But why abstain from all of it, in total?
That's what I don't get.
That's why I'm wondering if you're actually happy
This is actually...a really interesting thread!
Well, I don't smoke, I don't and never will do drugs, I drink very rarely, I'm single...but yeah, I'm happy. My circumstances are going to be different to everyone else's here, but the long and short of it is that, right at this very moment...life is starting to make sense.
It's difficult to explain. I look forward to having lots of sex, but at the moment, am content without it. Someone I had a major connection with has come back into my life, so the future's looking bright. I've been completely miserable at university, so have taken the decision to just quit and get a job (please, nobody bash on about the job market, I already have a job sorted) and deal with the consequences. To me...knowing I'm growing up and making decisions that I personally have to live by for the rest of my life...it makes me happy. Regardless of what happens next, I think I'll be alright. Above all else, changing my life has made me the happiest I've been all year.
So yeah, I appreciate that you're having a great time doing drugs, shagging everything with a pulse, drinking yourself into oblivion...enjoy it. It won't last long, because when real responsibilities hit you, you simply won't have the time for it.
My life isn't boring without those things, I work 9-5 at a dog creche (sounds poncy? Think again; it's amazingly rewarding) so my time is taken up with that, but other things give me pleasure: reading, gaming, making music, conversation...
I see from your profile that you're a student. Good luck with your studies. But you're a normal student if you do all of those things, simple as. But later on, when schooling is in the distant past, you'll have other things to fill your time. It's the way life is. It doesn't mean it'll be boring or any less fulfilling, but different things will satisfy you.
Sorry, this is a long post! I haven't posted on The Escapist in a while, so I needed to make up for it =D
EDIT: Sure, drinking is hellishly fun, I'm not denying that. I bet getting high is fun too, not that I'm gonna try it. For different people, life is about different things. Someone's life isn't necessarily boring because they abstain from all the things you mentioned. Maybe...they're just in a different place to you, where other things bring them joy *shrugs*
Well, I don't smoke, I don't and never will do drugs, I drink very rarely, I'm single...but yeah, I'm happy. My circumstances are going to be different to everyone else's here, but the long and short of it is that, right at this very moment...life is starting to make sense.
It's difficult to explain. I look forward to having lots of sex, but at the moment, am content without it. Someone I had a major connection with has come back into my life, so the future's looking bright. I've been completely miserable at university, so have taken the decision to just quit and get a job (please, nobody bash on about the job market, I already have a job sorted) and deal with the consequences. To me...knowing I'm growing up and making decisions that I personally have to live by for the rest of my life...it makes me happy. Regardless of what happens next, I think I'll be alright. Above all else, changing my life has made me the happiest I've been all year.
So yeah, I appreciate that you're having a great time doing drugs, shagging everything with a pulse, drinking yourself into oblivion...enjoy it. It won't last long, because when real responsibilities hit you, you simply won't have the time for it.
My life isn't boring without those things, I work 9-5 at a dog creche (sounds poncy? Think again; it's amazingly rewarding) so my time is taken up with that, but other things give me pleasure: reading, gaming, making music, conversation...
I see from your profile that you're a student. Good luck with your studies. But you're a normal student if you do all of those things, simple as. But later on, when schooling is in the distant past, you'll have other things to fill your time. It's the way life is. It doesn't mean it'll be boring or any less fulfilling, but different things will satisfy you.
Sorry, this is a long post! I haven't posted on The Escapist in a while, so I needed to make up for it =D
EDIT: Sure, drinking is hellishly fun, I'm not denying that. I bet getting high is fun too, not that I'm gonna try it. For different people, life is about different things. Someone's life isn't necessarily boring because they abstain from all the things you mentioned. Maybe...they're just in a different place to you, where other things bring them joy *shrugs*
Hah! I got you to investigate! I kid, I kid. There are occasions, I'll admit, but I've never really seen any sort of persistent attitude towards that particular behaviour.Spinozaad said:
So I suppose we can call it an aversion to general arrogance?Spinozaad said:
I'm a non drinking/smoking etc. I'm happy with it, and my life is not a "boring life". I just have fun through other means. Like skydiving, holiday up north etc. Which I believe I couldn't do because I most likely woudln't have the money if I drank/smoke etc.
I don't drink (on a daily basis, but I enjoy it on parties), I don't smoke (I don't need an addiction for something that'll ruin my condition), I don't have sex (at all, sad to say. It's hard to find a gal when you don't know one) and I don't do drugs (mostly because I'm at a loss to find some. Not like that's a loss however. The first time is the WORST time when it comes to drugs I hear).
Other than that, I try not to take things for granted.
For example, just thinking about how long the stairs in my house has survived for so long and just been there for me, whatever I would be going through... Just puts a smile on my face for some reason.
Note: I am not on drugs. I'm just that odd
I don't know much of what I am missing out on, but it's something I've had the pleasure to live without for 17 years.
Other than that, I try not to take things for granted.
For example, just thinking about how long the stairs in my house has survived for so long and just been there for me, whatever I would be going through... Just puts a smile on my face for some reason.
Note: I am not on drugs. I'm just that odd
I don't know much of what I am missing out on, but it's something I've had the pleasure to live without for 17 years.
Kind of agree with this:
When I was 16 having sex with my girlfriend was the most awesome thing ever
When I was 22 taking lots of drugs and having casual sex was the most awesome thing ever.
When I was 29 getting married to the woman I love wasthe most awesome thing ever OK I guess
When I was 30 having a baby was the most awesome thing ever.
I guess my point is - what you are doing sounds like heaps of fun for you at the moment, but many other people are at different phases in their life.
When I was 10 riding my BMX bike around was the most awesome thing ever.Lem0nade Inlay said:
When I was 16 having sex with my girlfriend was the most awesome thing ever
When I was 22 taking lots of drugs and having casual sex was the most awesome thing ever.
When I was 29 getting married to the woman I love was
When I was 30 having a baby was the most awesome thing ever.
I guess my point is - what you are doing sounds like heaps of fun for you at the moment, but many other people are at different phases in their life.
I drink and have gotten drunk, I've smoked and still do sometimes. I've had sex often.
These aren't the things that make me happiest though.
I've done martial arts, and the way you feel in combat, when you're evenly matched, and nearing the end of your powers, is uncomparable to the pleasures mentioned above. Good (Italian or French) food and wine is outstanding. Some music really gets to me emotionally, playing in a band yourself can create a strange but great interaction between the members. And holding my girlfriend tight whilst watching a movie or the stars is as good as life gets.
Now, as for sharing these things with someone you love deeply, that's way better than just doing them. Everything about it becomes more special (yes, even smoking).
Plus I can't imagine how awkward it must be to cuddle up after when you've had sex with someone you don't love. Or do you just get up and leave? I can't imagine you'd feel the same. I mean, factually speaking sex isn't pretty. However, once you love someone, every single aspect is great.
Anyway, if you think a life without smoking, sex and booze is empty, I'm afraid your life is empty. Sorry mate.
These aren't the things that make me happiest though.
I've done martial arts, and the way you feel in combat, when you're evenly matched, and nearing the end of your powers, is uncomparable to the pleasures mentioned above. Good (Italian or French) food and wine is outstanding. Some music really gets to me emotionally, playing in a band yourself can create a strange but great interaction between the members. And holding my girlfriend tight whilst watching a movie or the stars is as good as life gets.
Now, as for sharing these things with someone you love deeply, that's way better than just doing them. Everything about it becomes more special (yes, even smoking).
Plus I can't imagine how awkward it must be to cuddle up after when you've had sex with someone you don't love. Or do you just get up and leave? I can't imagine you'd feel the same. I mean, factually speaking sex isn't pretty. However, once you love someone, every single aspect is great.
Anyway, if you think a life without smoking, sex and booze is empty, I'm afraid your life is empty. Sorry mate.
Uh... yeah. 'No offense intended' indeed ¬¬Spinozaad said:
I'm happy, satisfied and content with my life as it is, and I don't rely on smokable, drinkable, fuckable substances for it. I suppose you take your happiness from these habits; I take mine from knowing I don't have to.