A request for Yahtzee from a ZP fan who just wasted 10 hours of his life... (Resistance 2)

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The funny thing is, I am a PS3 Fanboy. I'm also not a total hack when it comes to games (see my quick completion of Gears 2 on Hardcore or my ability to make it through multiple levels of Left 4 Dead on Expert without getting hit, both with extremely high headshot %s). I just hated Resistance 2. I could have gone on for another page about all its inconsistencies. But coming up with entertaining metaphors is a time-consuming process, and most people have ADD when it comes to reading anything more than 2 paragraphs long.
 

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ColdStorage said:
the playstation controller was designed for optimal use on fighting games, Xbox controller, FPS was the game of choice it was designed for, its why Soul Calibur players on Xbox's have hook handed claws.
And neither are really comfortable to hold or easy to play an FPS with.
 

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Wargamer said:
Oh dear god, another retard who compares A First-Person Shooter to a third-person tactical combat game!

Resistance 2 is not Gears of War. Get it through your fucking skull. You cannot compare the two games directly, any more than you can directly compare Tomb Raider to Mario Kart.

Now, by the sound of things you are claiming the game is shit because you can't bear to look in the mirror. Yes, Resistance 2 has no Cover Mechanic. Nor does any other FPS game!
You mean aside from Rainbow Six Vegas? Oh and Killzone 2.
 

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Flap Jack452 said:
sma_warrior said:
Someone just sucks at first person shooters....
Is it necessary to be so immature?
And just how is it immature when the OP makes critiques of the game which are non-issues for anyone who can reasonably handle themselves in said genre of game. Am I the greatest FPS player of all time? No way, I'm just alright, yet I never found these 'problems' to be problems. Trust me, if you're dying at the beginning of Resistance 2 it's got nothing to do with the difficulty level...
 

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Erm... Rent before you buy?
Nothing like tacking on an extra 10 bucks just to see if its worth 50.

Unless you mean like gamefly then I 'sort' of understand since generally the cost of renting from gamefly + purchasing usually equals out to the cost of the game.

General_Rogue said:
The funny thing is, I am a PS3 Fanboy.
That's funny? Just seems like saying "Funny thing is, I am a rapist." Not to say that rape and enjoying the PS3 are on the same level but that neither to me seems funny. More of a tragic state of affairs.

Then again had you said you were * Fanboy (Where * is anything) I'd likely be saying the same thing.

If the company isn't mailing you blowjobs and money there is NO REASON to be a fanboy. Especially since they could give two shits about you, and even that would be stretching beyond the bounds of interaction most major companies are comfortable with. It's what's hiding on that magnetic debit/credit strip that they are marketing to.
 

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sma_warrior said:
Flap Jack452 said:
sma_warrior said:
Someone just sucks at first person shooters....
Is it necessary to be so immature?
And just how is it immature when the OP makes critiques of the game which are non-issues for anyone who can reasonably handle themselves in said genre of game. Am I the greatest FPS player of all time? No way, I'm just alright, yet I never found these 'problems' to be problems. Trust me, if you're dying at the beginning of Resistance 2 it's got nothing to do with the difficulty level...

i love you... ?
 

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Oh dear god, another retard who compares A First-Person Shooter to a third-person tactical combat game!

Resistance 2 is not Gears of War. Get it through your fucking skull. You cannot compare the two games directly, any more than you can directly compare Tomb Raider to Mario Kart.

Now, by the sound of things you are claiming the game is shit because you can't bear to look in the mirror. Yes, Resistance 2 has no Cover Mechanic. Nor does any other FPS game! You claim the game is hard, but I've beaten it on Normal, and am over halfway through on Hard, and there were very few areas that I got stuck... and when I did, it was usually because I was being an idiot and not making proper use of allies and cover.

Seriously, it is not hard to use Cover in Resistance 2. You crouch behind a wall, work out roughly where the enemy is, then pop-up and shoot. So long as you duck before you take too much damage, you'll be fine.

The flippant "weapons are lame" comment really shows you're a clueless little tosser. Every weapon has a Secondary Fire mode, ranging from grenade launchers to homing tags to force fields. Alright, Resistance 2's armaments are not all shining gems of brilliance, but none of them are crap either. The Auger "Mark 2" is an amazing weapon! It goes through walls, you can see enemies through walls, and it projects a dome of energy that can deflect any and all weapons fire. The only reason this isn't the only weapon you use for the whole game is it has a slow rate of fire!

And that brings me to the second point on weapons; they all have flaws. This is not because Insomniac did a shit job, it's because everyone else does a shit job! The Shotgun is intended for point-blank, the Bullseye is for close range, the Carbine is for close-medium range. The Rossmore is far better for killing than the Carbine, but you have to get close. The Bullseye does more damage than the Carbine, but is less accurate. Therefore, the player has to decide what he needs to complete his mission. Likewise, weapons such as the Marksman and Auger are not as good for sniping as the Fareye, but they aren't as good for 'brawling' as the Bullseye or Carbine - these weapons are intended for medium-long range fire-fights, ideally from cover, where you don't always have the luxury of lining up a precision head-shot.

This weapon balance shows up best on multiplayer. The Bullseye is far more dangerous up close, but over distance the Carbine wins. The Marksman is far better than either of these at range, but in a head-to-head you will usually be unable to fire fast enough to stop the other guy gunning you down with the Carbine. Again, the weakness of each weapon is what makes it both balanced, and tactical - the right weapon for the right job.

Resistance 2 is by no means a perfect game. No game is perfect. However, it is an excellent FPS, and the Resistance universe is one of the best game settings around. It is the weaker of the two in terms of plot, no question, and in some areas it does seem they are using the jaw-dropping graphics to hide gameplay flaws (such as the notably inferior "Red Ring of Death" health system that replaced the "Hybrid" Health system of Fall of Man), but it is still by no means a terrible game.

Oh, and I can't stand Keyboard and Mouse FPS games - PCs are for RTS games.
After reading this, i had step back from the heat, because clearly you are fanboy that was offended by this guys opinion.

On a serious note, this probably belongs in the review section.
 
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Why yahtzee?

He is not a ninja for hire you know. And honestly wont give a damn about some guy who thinks he wasted 60 bucks.

But in all seriousness, the game was amazing.
To be put in different words: This game is like a resteraunt that only serves fish, and good fish at that, if you like fish then this is a great resteraunt. If you dont then you will hate it.

It is a first person shooter, therefor a story in it will be terrible. That is why it is a first person SHOOTER. not a first person story. Also, if the game is a cakewalk then it isnt fun. And it wasnt hard for me or my friends so yeah.

Finally, Now you are complaining about this game? it came out in october and you finally are complaining?
 

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Shurikens and Lightning said:
Why yahtzee?

It is a first person shooter, therefor a story in it will be terrible. That is why it is a first person SHOOTER. not a first person story.
Bioshock anyone? Or, if you're one of the masses that says it was just a copy of System Shock 2, then System Shock anyone? Just because a game is a shooter doesn't mean its story is going to be bad.
 

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Random argument man said:
You have better luck of posting on his own forums.
Yep, sorry General_Rogue, I know for a fact he does not read these posts. He is not the least bit interested. He does not even read the comments thread on his reviews. His own forums would be the best chance... if at all.
 

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jemborg said:
Random argument man said:
You have better luck of posting on his own forums.
Yep, sorry General_Rogue, I know for a fact he does not read these posts. He is not the least bit interested. He does not even read the comments thread on his reviews. His own forums would be the best chance... if at all.

Heh. Yes he does. Maybe not the ones that float around like this one, but he's casually mentioned more than once that he has read some of the comments on his reviews, and in his mailbag showdown, I remember someone posting in the comments to that that the "mail" was in fact not email but forum posts on the SSBB thread, something I never checked myself because it's over a thousand posts, but believed to be true.
 
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captain awesome 12 said:
Bioshock anyone? Or, if you're one of the masses that says it was just a copy of System Shock 2, then System Shock anyone? Just because a game is a shooter doesn't mean its story is going to be bad.
I would have been 2 when system shock came out so I dont think I played it.

I admit defeat at your point so from now on I will say First person SHOOTER and then theres bioshock.
 

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Shurikens and Lightning said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Bioshock anyone? Or, if you're one of the masses that says it was just a copy of System Shock 2, then System Shock anyone? Just because a game is a shooter doesn't mean its story is going to be bad.
I would have been 2 when system shock came out so I dont think I played it.

I admit defeat at your point so from now on I will say First person SHOOTER and then theres bioshock.
Half Life had a good story and that's a First Person Shooter. By the way you mean the original System Shock right? The one released in 1994? If not you'd be nine or ten, because SS2 was a 1999 game.
 

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captain awesome 12 said:
Shurikens and Lightning said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Bioshock anyone? Or, if you're one of the masses that says it was just a copy of System Shock 2, then System Shock anyone? Just because a game is a shooter doesn't mean its story is going to be bad.
I would have been 2 when system shock came out so I dont think I played it.

I admit defeat at your point so from now on I will say First person SHOOTER and then theres bioshock.
Half Life had a good story and that's a First Person Shooter. By the way you mean the original System Shock right? The one released in 1994? If not you'd be nine or ten, because SS2 was a 1999 game.
I liked the story of half life 2 myself. :)

So much so that I 'had' to play the episodes.
 

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theultimateend said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Shurikens and Lightning said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Bioshock anyone? Or, if you're one of the masses that says it was just a copy of System Shock 2, then System Shock anyone? Just because a game is a shooter doesn't mean its story is going to be bad.
I would have been 2 when system shock came out so I dont think I played it.

I admit defeat at your point so from now on I will say First person SHOOTER and then theres bioshock.
Half Life had a good story and that's a First Person Shooter. By the way you mean the original System Shock right? The one released in 1994? If not you'd be nine or ten, because SS2 was a 1999 game.
I liked the story of half life 2 myself. :)

So much so that I 'had' to play the episodes.
Half Life 2 is kind of what I meant.
 

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captain awesome 12 said:
theultimateend said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Shurikens and Lightning said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Bioshock anyone? Or, if you're one of the masses that says it was just a copy of System Shock 2, then System Shock anyone? Just because a game is a shooter doesn't mean its story is going to be bad.
I would have been 2 when system shock came out so I dont think I played it.

I admit defeat at your point so from now on I will say First person SHOOTER and then theres bioshock.
Half Life had a good story and that's a First Person Shooter. By the way you mean the original System Shock right? The one released in 1994? If not you'd be nine or ten, because SS2 was a 1999 game.
I liked the story of half life 2 myself. :)

So much so that I 'had' to play the episodes.
Half Life 2 is kind of what I meant.
Ah works for me either way. I meant it as a "and I also like this on top of your points" more so than a correction.
 

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Metascores are completely stupid. They probably have monkey's picking numbers out of jars. Don't even let it enter your mind what a something got on that site.
 

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theultimateend said:
captain awesome 12 said:
theultimateend said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Shurikens and Lightning said:
captain awesome 12 said:
Bioshock anyone? Or, if you're one of the masses that says it was just a copy of System Shock 2, then System Shock anyone? Just because a game is a shooter doesn't mean its story is going to be bad.
I would have been 2 when system shock came out so I dont think I played it.

I admit defeat at your point so from now on I will say First person SHOOTER and then theres bioshock.
Half Life had a good story and that's a First Person Shooter. By the way you mean the original System Shock right? The one released in 1994? If not you'd be nine or ten, because SS2 was a 1999 game.
I liked the story of half life 2 myself. :)

So much so that I 'had' to play the episodes.
Half Life 2 is kind of what I meant.
Ah works for me either way. I meant it as a "and I also like this on top of your points" more so than a correction.
Aha, sorry I have to guard myself. There seems to be a ton of animosity on the Escapist threads as of late.