About the Catherine Decision...

[Alphakirby]

Lol, People who really want this game can just order it from Japan. I guess everyone else can't phatom spending an extra $20 dollars for an import when there's booze to buy.

This game is rated Cero C BTW, there's no way it could be an Adults only game.

Yeah,but some (Like Me) want to understand the characters and story without having to learn Japanese or hacking the game with a translation patch

 

[moretimethansense]

SNIPPED FOR THE SAKE OF THE FORUM!
Well consider that we,happen to "visit" around the time of their broadcast and correct them on every game-related misconception they've made since Mass Effect was dubbed porn by them. But if you think about it,I heard somebody say something about Catherine's sexual content being classier than most,and if you think about the fact that Fox didn't touch Heavy Rain despite having a sex scene,and being about somebody that drowns little boys, forcing their fathers to save them. Heavy Rain could've been controversial,but it was left alone

Do you honestly think rationality and fact matters to these lunatics?

As for Heavy Rain?
A French game that came from France that doesn't have shooting in it?
I doubt they've even heard of it.

Lol, People who really want this game can just order it from Japan. I guess everyone else can't phatom spending an extra $20 dollars for an import when there's booze to buy.

This game is rated Cero C BTW, there's no way it could be an Adults only game.

-_-#
You're. An. Idiot.
As kirby said, NOT EVERYBOD SPEAKS JAPANESE!

 

[thatman]

I'm a big fan of atlus after playing persona 3 & 4 (which are easily my two most favourite games now) and SMT 4; so i was looking forward to catherine to see how they'd manage a non-rpg. So yeah, i am disappointed, however not enough to do any kind of boycotting when persona 5 comes out.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I'm a big fan of atlus after playing persona 3 & 4 (which are easily my two most favourite games now) and SMT 4; so i was looking forward to catherine to see how they'd manage a non-rpg. So yeah, i am disappointed, however not enough to do any kind of boycotting when persona 5 comes out.

Us getting P5 isn't a given. P3 and P4 weren't the hottest sellers over here.

 

[StriderShinryu]

I'm quite disappointed in their decision and, really, I'm not sure why they went that way. They are known as a niche developer/publisher who makes their living on mature content. It's not like we're talking about Nintendo here.

This is far from an "I want to play Catherine, so this decision sucks!" because as far as the actual game is concerned, I really don't know what to make of it as much of the gameplay seems focused on character interaction I haven't seen in translated form.

As for the emailed image? That is a rather odd way to acknowledge the issue. It almost makes me think they are playing coy about things and have bigger plans as opposed to no plans at all.

 

[GideonB]

I don't hate Atlus for saying they probably won't release Catherine in other territories. I'm more pissed off at the fact that they leave the EU (for the most part) alone so even if there is a western release, they'll skip over Europe and that makes me annoyed. Come on guys, release some more games over in the European land please? ;D

 

[Halo Fanboy]

As kirby said, NOT EVERYBOD SPEAKS JAPANESE!

Expect a guide to appear on Gamefaqs within the month.

 

[GloatingSwine]

I don't see why people assume this game would get an AO, it's certainly got more sexual elements than most mainstream titles, but it's not like it's actually porn. CERO gave it a C rating, which is the equivalent of a high T or a low M rating from the ESRB. This puts it on the level of Uncharted or MvC3.

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

 

[moretimethansense]

As kirby said, NOT EVERYBOD SPEAKS JAPANESE!

Expect a guide to appear on Gamefaqs within the month.

Oh of course!
I could read a fan made translation on my PC while I play, not knowing where I am excactly in the conversation, accidently reading too far ahead or reading two sentances behind won't affect my enjoyment of the gamee in the slightest!

I remain, You sir are an idiot.

 

[Alphakirby]

As kirby said, NOT EVERYBODY SPEAKS JAPANESE!

Expect a guide to appear on Gamefaqs within the month.

Umm,that's called READ A BOOK! So no,I don't want a guide,I just want the apology letter to mean that Catherine is coming out in english-speaking parts of the world.

 

[Alphakirby]

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

How do you know,have you looked it up,have you played the game? If you say no to all of these things, you are making a bullshit assumption. As I've mentioned,Heavy Rain has a sex scene,Heavy Rain had Madison taking a shower (You would see her naked),Heavy Rain has a morbid story,it's still a great game but with the severity of the ESRB it would've gotten an AO for those two little moments...it got an M. Do the math.

 

[moretimethansense]

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

How do you know,have you looked it up,have you played the game? If you say no to all of these things, you are making a bullshit assumption. As I've mentioned,Heavy Rain has a sex scene,Heavy Rain had Madison taking a shower (You would see her naked),Heavy Rain has a morbid story,it's still a great game but with the severity of the ESRB it would've gotten an AO for those two little moments...it got an M. Do the math.

Again though, it was from a french developer, I bet if it'd been from a more well known American/Canadian dev there'd have been panic in the streets.

 

[mireko]

I don't see why people assume this game would get an AO, it's certainly got more sexual elements than most mainstream titles, but it's not like it's actually porn. CERO gave it a C rating, which is the equivalent of a high T or a low M rating from the ESRB. This puts it on the level of Uncharted or MvC3.

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

Does it? Have you played it? I can't imagine it would get such a low rating in Japan if it actually contains that.

Yes, there are cultural differences, but the differences aren't that big.

Mass Effect had enough violence and mature themes to qualify for an M without the alien sideboob shot. It did lead to the hilarious/depressing Fox News controversy, but I don't think they would latch onto this in quite the same way. It's pretty far from mainstream in the US.

[small]Okay, there'd be a risk of Fox News starting a fuss. But there's always a risk of them starting a fuss: They're completely fucking insane.[/small]

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I don't see why people assume this game would get an AO, it's certainly got more sexual elements than most mainstream titles, but it's not like it's actually porn. CERO gave it a C rating, which is the equivalent of a high T or a low M rating from the ESRB. This puts it on the level of Uncharted or MvC3.

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

Does it? Have you played it? I can't imagine it would get such a low rating in Japan if it actually contains that.

Yes, there are cultural differences, but the differences aren't that big.

Mass Effect had enough violence and mature themes to qualify for an M without the alien sideboob shot. It did lead to the hilarious/depressing Fox News controversy, but I don't think they would latch onto this in quite the same way. It's pretty far from mainstream in the US.

[small]Okay, there'd be a risk of Fox News starting a fuss. But there's always a risk of them starting a fuss: They're completely fucking insane.[/small]

Plus, to my knowledge, Catherine doesn't show actual nudity. Madison from Heavy Rain had a scene where she was showering and it showed everything. It only got M and that is as explicit as you get.

 

[Alphakirby]

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

How do you know,have you looked it up,have you played the game? If you say no to all of these things, you are making a bullshit assumption. As I've mentioned,Heavy Rain has a sex scene,Heavy Rain had Madison taking a shower (You would see her naked),Heavy Rain has a morbid story,it's still a great game but with the severity of the ESRB it would've gotten an AO for those two little moments...it got an M. Do the math.

Again though, it was from a french developer, I bet if it'd been from a more well known American/Canadian dev there'd have been panic in the streets.

Still,what I'm saying is that either way the ESRB rated it an M,so Catherine would have to be like Leasure Suit Larry to get to AO,but we all know Atlus is much much smarter than that,and put an great story into it,and from what I can tell, a moral choice system based on text replies you send to Catherine and Katherine

 

[mireko]

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

How do you know,have you looked it up,have you played the game? If you say no to all of these things, you are making a bullshit assumption. As I've mentioned,Heavy Rain has a sex scene,Heavy Rain had Madison taking a shower (You would see her naked),Heavy Rain has a morbid story,it's still a great game but with the severity of the ESRB it would've gotten an AO for those two little moments...it got an M. Do the math.

Again though, it was from a french developer, I bet if it'd been from a more well known American/Canadian dev there'd have been panic in the streets.

Not really sure what difference that makes, Atlus is a Japanese deveolper. They are nowhere near being as well-known in the West as BioWare or Rockstar.

[small]Off-topic: This thread is a veritable wall of quotes! [/small]

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

How do you know,have you looked it up,have you played the game? If you say no to all of these things, you are making a bullshit assumption. As I've mentioned,Heavy Rain has a sex scene,Heavy Rain had Madison taking a shower (You would see her naked),Heavy Rain has a morbid story,it's still a great game but with the severity of the ESRB it would've gotten an AO for those two little moments...it got an M. Do the math.

Again though, it was from a french developer, I bet if it'd been from a more well known American/Canadian dev there'd have been panic in the streets.

Not really sure what difference that makes, Atlus is a Japanese deveolper. They are nowhere near being as well-known in the West as BioWare or Rockstar.

[small]Off-topic: This thread is a veritable wall of quotes! [/small]

This is just my opinion, but I think the negative stigma Japan has with people in the States may play a part. Remember when stores refused to display Record of Agarest War? But that Conan or X-Blade cover is fine. I think that the gaming culture here at large thinks that Japan is weird and would discriminate.

 

[moretimethansense]

Mass Effect got an M rating for half a second of sideboob. Catherine has an explicit sex scene. Do the math.

How do you know,have you looked it up,have you played the game? If you say no to all of these things, you are making a bullshit assumption. As I've mentioned,Heavy Rain has a sex scene,Heavy Rain had Madison taking a shower (You would see her naked),Heavy Rain has a morbid story,it's still a great game but with the severity of the ESRB it would've gotten an AO for those two little moments...it got an M. Do the math.

Again though, it was from a french developer, I bet if it'd been from a more well known American/Canadian dev there'd have been panic in the streets.

Still,what I'm saying is that either way the ESRB rated it an M,so Catherine would have to be like Leasure Suit Larry to get to AO,but we all know Atlus is much much smarter than that,and put an great story into it,and from what I can tell, a moral choice system based on text replies you send to Catherine and Katherine

That's the ERSB though, it's the reactionary public that causes problems.

Not really sure what difference that makes, Atlus is a Japanese deveolper. They are nowhere near being as well-known in the West as BioWare or Rockstar.

[small]Off-topic: This thread is a veritable wall of quotes! [/small]

Between Majesco and ATLUS, no difference, I'm just pointing out that if they were a more well known company there'd be no chance of it getting in withoit someong making a stink.

If a game is popular enough it's only a matter of time till some idiot buys it for their underage kid then goes screaming to the press about it.

 

[Fappy]

Wait, when did they say they weren't releasing Catherine outside of Japan?

A statement to a site yesterday. The Escapist has an article on it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108030-Atlus-No-Plans-to-Bring-Catherine-West

Well that sucks. I was looking forward to something that could get me out from under my RPG/Fighting Game rock. Looks like I'll be stuck here for awhile :/

 

[Kotaro]

Hey, Atlus? Keep in mind that most of the people who already buy your games would probably be all over this game. Just sayin'.
I am disappoint. Yes, I still like you (You guys make some of the best jRPGs out there), but I am rather upset by this.