ACTA is going to kill the Internet.

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Aerodyamic

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IdealistCommi said:
Oh god. This is fucking bullshit. However, the public backlash would be huge.
You need not have done anything to JUSTIFY being accused, but if you are accused, you're boned. Ever play the RPG 'Paranoia'? "Look! He's a mutant commie traitor! Quick, KILL IT WITH EVERYTHING!"

Or:

"LOOK! THAT GIRL OVER THERE! SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!"

One would assume that the internets would rise up, just as they did to battle Scientology, but this time, it might get ugly, since Scientologists are a bunch of whack jobs, and this is theoretically going to have governmental backing in every single jurisdiction that enacts it. It could get really interesting, really fast.
 

ChocoFace

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Zetona said:
I'm forgetting the Latin term, but the US Constitution guarantees, if I remember correctly, that you shall not be persecuted for an action that was outlawed after you committed it. (Of course, piracy is illegal already, but still...) Someone remind me of the Latin term please?
i think it was We're-us all-us fucked-us up-us.
I could be wrong though
 

RanD00M

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FUCK that.These news sorta make me want to pirate some shit just to piss the ACTA off.

And another thing,it's a PC.A PC stands for personal.Which makes it a PERSONAL COMPUTER.That's something that the ACTA needs to learn.
 

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nikki191 said:
im not really concerned with them going through my harddrive to look for illegal films, music or games. what i am worried about is the part where they copy files off your harddrive. what about my intellectual property which has just been copied by them?
brilliant... i never even thought about that :)
 

Synek

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Im wondering how they will get people to work there.

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*Do you know how to hack computers?
*Do you absolutely have no friends and/or relatives and hate other people?
Then you might want to work with us!

*We offer you the ability to enter other peoples computers and getting paid!
All you need to do is to report every computer that have any copy right material.
And sometimes not even that!

*If they resist by for example have a protective program that is made too counter
unwanted entries to the computer, you will be able to apply any force you wish to breach
the security and as a bonus, you can send a report of resistance against law enforcement.

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Internet Kraken

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Internet Kraken said:
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Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
Just remember, you don't even have to have pirated anything. Just accused. Thrice.
Well I don't see why I would be accused of piracy since I've never tried to pirate anything.
Not that I like jumping on fearmongering bandwagons, but I would point out there has been plenty of historical precident for false accusations. If you just look at american history you'll find examples in the salem witch hunts and the mcarthy proceedings.
I haven't done anything that would make anyone want to put me in jail. I doubt I will in the future. I seriously doubt I would actually get put into jail because of this law. Even in a society built upon fear, I doubt I would be the one people point their finger towards. Of course I still hate this because it gives the government the ability to invade my privacy.

Plus even if this absurd system was put into effect, I really doubt that you would only have to be accused. It would be to easy to abuse the system to get rid of people you don't like.
 

Internet Kraken

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inpachi said:
Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
I AM A PIRATE AND I SCREAM IT LOUDLY IN PRIDE! I get what i know is not worth buying for free and when i see something that is worth my time i pay for it.. SIMPLE AS THAT! Why should people get my money when they produce something that isnt worth my money?
If someone makes something that is not worth your money, then you don't buy it. You also don't pirate it. You would only pirate something if you wanted to have it, and to want to have it means that the product is worth your money. You're just pirating products because you're greedy, under the flimsy justification that these products are not worth your money. You can't justify this type of piracy.
 

Dudemeister

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Ph33nix said:
oh you won;t be able to illigallly download movies anymore to fricken bad. just do it the legal way for gods sake.
You didn't watch or read any of that did you?
Random searches and confiscation of any digital equipment?
They will be able to cut off your internet forever if you are accused of piracy three times. Not convicted, ACCUSED!
 

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Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
I forsee many, many, MANY ways that this will end up biting the most trivial offenders. Or people who hasn't offended at all. Not to mention, when they give themselves that kind of acces, where does it end!?

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Holy shit, that's fucking scary!
Aren't you a fascist? This is the kind of thing fascists do, controlling all the actions of their citizens, so on and so forth.
Not exactly, that's totolatarianism.
Besides this is extremly stupid, if I was head of a fascist government I wouldn't pass a law like this.
Now if this type of law was used for suspicion of carrying illegal drugs or weapons then it would make sense.
Indeed. At least things like that can actually bring serious harm to others. But the government worrying about arbitrary 1s and 0s on a person's hard drive? Really?
 

Internet Kraken

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MGlBlaze said:
Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
I forsee many, many, MANY ways that this will end up biting the most trivial offenders. Or people who hasn't offended at all. Not to mention, when they give themselves that kind of acces, where does it end!?
Another reason why this won't happen. Simply to many offenders. It would be a massive waste of time to try and arrest and put all these people on trial. And unlike events such as the witch hunts, most people don't believe piracy is a threat. Piracy isn't a threat to the average Joe, it's a threat to big corporation. People are far more likely to vocalize their hate of this system because of that.

What I'm trying to say is that there are to many massive flaws with this system. The government won't be so stupid as to ignore that.
 

Kavachi

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This is getting old. This kinda stuff has been around forever, they just found a new name. They do it to scare people away from piracy, but that won't work. I mean, every game that doesn't deserve my money won'' get it, I will just dl it. Never got any toruble with it. ah well...
 

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Internet Kraken said:
What I'm trying to say is that there are to many massive flaws with this system. The government won't be so stupid as to ignore that.
Oh, I wouldn't put that level of stupidity past any government... Or people for that matter, who would probably just sit down and take it most of the time; either that or vocalise their hatred of the 'corruption-bait' act but not actually do anything about it.

I'm sure they have their best intentions, but this is boneheaded, quite frankly. Clearly they never heard of the saying "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
 

Internet Kraken

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MGlBlaze said:
Internet Kraken said:
What I'm trying to say is that there are to many massive flaws with this system. The government won't be so stupid as to ignore that.
Oh, I wouldn't put that level of stupidity past any government... Or people for that matter, who would probably just sit down and take it most of the time; either that or vocalise their hatred of the 'corruption-bait' act but not actually do anything about it.

I'm sure they have their best intentions, but this is boneheaded, quite frankly. Clearly they never heard of the saying "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
Yes I have. I know a ton of politicians are corrupt bastards that only care about money. Which is why I don't believe this will be implemented. Politicians are not complete morons, and they realize that they will most likely not profit off of this absurd system. To much political backlash. It would just be a waste of time. So either this system heavily changes before it is put into place or they do use it but don't actually bother to enforce it and instead rely on fear to cut down the piracy rates.
 
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Why did they keep it secret?

Because whenever a government wants to do something they know in their heart of hearts is not only unethical but potentially illegal, it keeps it secret.

Seriously, if this was in any way above board they would let people know about it, but they know that this is a gross violation of personal and civil rights, so they hide it.
 

Woodsey

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So basically an attempt to control the internet?

Yeah, OK. Excuse me whilst I check the temperature in Hell.