ACTA is going to kill the Internet.

[Low Key]

I wonder how many politicians would have their shit seized and searched. They will strike this thing down before it goes anywhere in the legislation.

I'm also very happy I own either a laptop nor a MP3 player. The government can kiss my ass. Thanks dems for electing this baffoon.

Uhhh. This was dated 2007. Before Obama was elected, so you can't lay that one at his doorstep. Think before you speak.

If you are going to make snide comments for an honest mistake, I'll say whatever the fuck I want.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

You know, people could probably get around this by downloading the files onto a detachable storage medium (exterior hard drive, etc.) and disconnecting it while using the Internet. Not like you need to play your music or movies on the Internet, and cracked games don't support internet connections. Only annoyance is constantly connecting and disconnecting the cables.

So the policy is ineffective. If pirates have enough know-how to avoid detection right now, I doubt they'll be too stupid to think of a simple solution like this.

Part of the treaty involves confiscating and/or destroying devices which old pirated material.

In order to destroy a physical item in your house, they'll still need a search warrant. Your unconnected hardware will be safe until enough evidence is compiled to get the police a warrant, and I doubt that they'll go through the trouble.

ACTA bypasses those regulations. And they don't need evidence. They can just accuse.

 

[Chesterfield Snapdragon McFisticuffs]

Isn't the article dated last year? Also, they tried this in NZ, it was called section 92A, it just got trampled because of the huge public backlash and it didn't even make it to the implementation stage. Knowing the numbers American's protest in I doubt this is going anywhere fast.

 

[ender214]

You know, people could probably get around this by downloading the files onto a detachable storage medium (exterior hard drive, etc.) and disconnecting it while using the Internet. Not like you need to play your music or movies on the Internet, and cracked games don't support internet connections. Only annoyance is constantly connecting and disconnecting the cables.

So the policy is ineffective. If pirates have enough know-how to avoid detection right now, I doubt they'll be too stupid to think of a simple solution like this.

Part of the treaty involves confiscating and/or destroying devices which old pirated material.

In order to destroy a physical item in your house, they'll still need a search warrant. Your unconnected hardware will be safe until enough evidence is compiled to get the police a warrant, and I doubt that they'll go through the trouble.

ACTA bypasses those regulations. And they don't need evidence. They can just accuse.

The ACTA bypasses these regulations for ISPs, not private homes.

 

[Sonicron]

Yeah, never going to happen. No matter how much influence the corporations have, most of today's politicians have seen at least some pictures of what a proper revolution looks like (which is what would undoubtedly happen if ACTA was ever greenlit) and probably don't relish the idea of having their heads paraded around the cities on pike staffs.

 

[Kimjira19]

I wonder how many politicians would have their shit seized and searched. They will strike this thing down before it goes anywhere in the legislation.

I'm also very happy I own either a laptop nor a MP3 player. The government can kiss my ass. Thanks dems for electing this baffoon.

Uhhh. This was dated 2007. Before Obama was elected, so you can't lay that one at his doorstep. Think before you speak.

If you are going to make snide comments for an honest mistake, I'll say whatever the fuck I want.

That comment was by no means snide, nor rude, nor degrading. I simply corrected you and gave you future advice.

 

[NoriYuki Sato]

While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.

Just remember, you don't even have to have pirated anything. Just accused. Thrice.

however, at least in the US, if you get accused of a crime, then get aquitted, you can't be convicted of the same crime again.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.

Just remember, you don't even have to have pirated anything. Just accused. Thrice.

however, at least in the US, if you get accused of a crime, then get aquitted, you can't be convicted of the same crime again.

Because that's such an immense relief for everybody.

 

[Low Key]

I wonder how many politicians would have their shit seized and searched. They will strike this thing down before it goes anywhere in the legislation.

I'm also very happy I own either a laptop nor a MP3 player. The government can kiss my ass. Thanks dems for electing this baffoon.

Uhhh. This was dated 2007. Before Obama was elected, so you can't lay that one at his doorstep. Think before you speak.

If you are going to make snide comments for an honest mistake, I'll say whatever the fuck I want.

That comment was by no means snide, nor rude, nor degrading. I simply corrected you and gave you future advice.

I don't need your advice. Please keep it to yourself in the future.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Sheesh, this wikileaks website is a silly travesty of overreactionary people.

Sooner or later, legislation is going to get passed that will make enforcing against piracy easier. There's just way too much money involved that's being lost to it. It may or may not be the ACTA. However, if you find such legislation as "killing your Internet" because you can no longer download copyrighted stuff for free, maybe it's just as well, because you're thoroughly abusing your use of it.

Actually, the amount of money lost from piracy is way lower than people like to think it is.

They can search any piece of electronical device and make a copy of it's hard drive without a warrant. This just plain violates our liberties. That's like if a cop came at 12 in the night, opened your door and search through your house. That's exactly how this will be like.

They can just plain accuse you 3 times. They don't need an actual PC

So, they violate privacy and they can fuck you up if they feel like it. No, thank you.

 

[ShadowKatt]

For all those who say they can't do this, I want to share my beliefs.

We are headed towards a global government. I don't believe there is anything that can stop it, and I'm not sure it needs to. It seems like a natural progression. However, as far as the corruption goes, none of it will fly until the world becomes a police state. Once that happens and people have the option of cooperating or being shot, people will sacrifice all rights and liberties for their own lives. That's where this kind of thing comes in. When every government on the planet summons its military and turns it on its own people, regardless of whatever reason they give{national security, protection, etc), then brute force will be used and people will fight and die at the hands of the military they spent millions arming or they will submit and accept their life as slaves to the state.

Just a matter of time til it happens. Look at China and Tieneman Square.

 

[TK421]

chances are if you've used the Internet, you've pirated something.

The Internet: All the piracy, none of the scurvy.(http://www.messquoted.com/?5)

 

[whycantibelinus]

Fucking shitty, what the hell is the point of an information superhighway if you can't fucking share information on it?!?!

 

[Adorann]

There's a major difference though. When most people hear about drugs, they automatically think they are bad and will support any government action against them. People know why drugs are dangerous. Piracy is different. It's a threat to big corporations, not the average citizen. Many people won't understand why the government takes such a harsh stance against it, especially when it requires them to sacrifice their privacy. As a result it won't have the support of the public. The Government understands this.

Well they are using "child pornography" as an excuse in the Australian one. I'm sure many deluded people might believe in that, as they believe in the 'war' on drugs.

All in all, I believe that there is no way this will get through, and if it does, it won't last very long.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Fucking shitty, what the hell is the point of an information superhighway if you can't fucking share information on it?!?!

My sentiments exactly.

They're going to take away your computer and mp3-compatible devices, too.

 

[manbearpig91]

Going to Switzerland. It might not be safe from this, but here i come. Bye US

 

[ArcWinter]

Hooray for being a philosophical anarchist!