ACTA is going to kill the Internet.

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Low Key

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stinkychops said:
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All of you 'anti-any-piracy' types who believe all pirates should be dealt with harshly and quickly but don't like this treaty: You all got what you deserved. I'm glad my hard-core game piracy days are over and I've moved on to other things, this will never touch me. Want to stop this? Start looking beyond your own perspectives and work together whether or not the guy next to you is a self-avowed pirate or not.
Do you still use the same hard-drive. Because if they're copying entire hard-drives they'll be able to find the 'deleted' pirated files.
Depends on how many times the data has been written over.
 

Jark212

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IdealistCommi said:
Oh god. This is fucking bullshit. However, the public backlash would be huge.
We must dispatch word to 4chan... Any volunteers??
 

Baby Eater

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they're also counting ripping a CD you own to your computer as piracy.why is the tech age becoming so taboo?
 

Kollega

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This is madness! A waste of resources, a destruction of privacy, people will protest...

It's probably not gonna happen. And if we spread the word, it's DEFINETLY not gonna happen.
 

inpachi

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Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
I AM A PIRATE AND I SCREAM IT LOUDLY IN PRIDE! I get what i know is not worth buying for free and when i see something that is worth my time i pay for it.. SIMPLE AS THAT! Why should people get my money when they produce something that isnt worth my money?
 

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Bring it bitches! No really, bring it on, I'm eager to see how my router, routing server, firewalls, PC, bridge, and file-server will cope with it. Hell, people who know how to access my PC on the home-network can only get access for like 5 minutes before it changes my IP address.
 

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Oh shit, we need a preemptive strike, ASAP! Quick, everyone, grab your weapons and converge! Rally point is set in the ACTA HQ lobby! GO GO GO!
 

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Zetona said:
Well, mixing domestic and international law may have some interesting results. Of course, trying to persecute internet crimes is like trying to persecute marijuana usage: it will cost ridiculous sums of money, not reduce illegal activity, and possibly flood jails. There's not much point to it.

Now I wonder where Theodore Roosevelt would stand on this issue...
I think the term is Habeus Corpus, but I'm probably wrong, I remember nothing from civics.

Also he would beat the shit out of somone with his big stick. Get it?(his policy not that you pervs)
 

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Jark212 said:
IdealistCommi said:
Oh god. This is fucking bullshit. However, the public backlash would be huge.
We must dispatch word to 4chan... Any volunteers??
first saw it there
not much happened
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Now if my understanding of the way youtube and other video sites work is correct,
just by WATCHING anything on them counts as "downloading" since the data comes to your computer.
So watching ANYTHING on the net would be considered "piracy".

Online series like Unskippable would be demolished as they are using the data from a game and are "copying" their creation by showing the video.

The abridged series that have become popular lately would be stopped dead as thay are "copying" work by clipping videos.

Moreover my concern would be the watching of ISPs.
If proxys were used that would make it possible to put blame on anyone.
Again my understanding of how ISPs and proxys may be off

Please correct me if i am mistaken.
 

inpachi

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err99 said:
Jark212 said:
IdealistCommi said:
Oh god. This is fucking bullshit. However, the public backlash would be huge.
We must dispatch word to 4chan... Any volunteers??
first saw it there
not much happened
___


Now if my understanding of the way youtube and other video sites work is correct,
just by WATCHING anything on them counts as "downloading" since the data comes to your computer.
So watching ANYTHING on the net would be considered "piracy".

Online series like Unskippable would be demolished as they are using the data from a game and are "copying" their creation by showing the video.

The abridged series that have become popular lately would be stopped dead as thay are "copying" work by clipping videos.

Moreover my concern would be the watching of ISPs.
If proxys were used that would make it possible to put blame on anyone.
Again my understanding of how ISPs and proxys may be off

Please correct me if i am mistaken.
Most abridged series have already been threatened to be sued by the companys that made them.. EXAMPLE the WTFPokemon series had a bunch of problems with that but they eventually came to a agreement with them.. Now something that i find absurd.. Is the problems that SUBBING GROUPS that take no profit from there subbing work they do it just for the fans.. They are being dismantled one by one by shark companys like Funimation... And most of the subbing groups send there videos to english based websites and then funimation comes in and threatens to sue if those sites dont take them down.. The reason Funimation does this is because that is one of there side business they sell subbed videos YEARS after the episodes air in japan.. Will subbing companys also be sent to jail for subbing videos that were not theres to begin with but not making any profit out of them what so ever?
 

err99

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inpachi said:
err99 said:
Jark212 said:
IdealistCommi said:
Oh god. This is fucking bullshit. However, the public backlash would be huge.
We must dispatch word to 4chan... Any volunteers??
first saw it there
not much happened
___


Now if my understanding of the way youtube and other video sites work is correct,
just by WATCHING anything on them counts as "downloading" since the data comes to your computer.
So watching ANYTHING on the net would be considered "piracy".

Online series like Unskippable would be demolished as they are using the data from a game and are "copying" their creation by showing the video.

The abridged series that have become popular lately would be stopped dead as thay are "copying" work by clipping videos.

Moreover my concern would be the watching of ISPs.
If proxys were used that would make it possible to put blame on anyone.
Again my understanding of how ISPs and proxys may be off

Please correct me if i am mistaken.
Most abridged series have already been threatened to be sued by the companys that made them.. EXAMPLE the WTFPokemon series had a bunch of problems with that but they eventually came to a agreement with them.. Now something that i find absurd.. Is the problems that SUBBING GROUPS that take no profit from there subbing work they do it just for the fans.. They are being dismantled one by one by shark companys like Funimation... And most of the subbing groups send there videos to english based websites and then funimation comes in and threatens to sue if those sites dont take them down.. The reason Funimation does this is because that is one of there side business they sell subbed videos YEARS after the episodes air in japan.. Will subbing companys also be sent to jail for subbing videos that were not theres to begin with but not making any profit out of them what so ever?
So true!
Thats another concern I was worrying about.
I watch mostly animes that will NEVER EVER make it out of japan on youtube that subbers make.
Either due to story or because they just wouldn't survive.
One show I'm watching only comes out as ovas every 6 months.
With the death of subbing groups there goes the anime/japanimation culture.

This plan kills gamer, anime, programmer, modder, and a variety of other cultures along with the 4 or 5 REAL pirates they find

The other 5 billion pirates will find bigger and better ways to hide anyway.
 

ender214

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You know, people could probably get around this by downloading the files onto a detachable storage medium (exterior hard drive, etc.) and disconnecting it while using the Internet. Not like you need to play your music or movies on the Internet, and cracked games don't support internet connections. Only annoyance is constantly connecting and disconnecting the cables.

So the policy is ineffective. If pirates have enough know-how to avoid detection right now, I doubt they'll be too stupid to think of a simple solution like this.
 

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ender214 said:
You know, people could probably get around this by downloading the files onto a detachable storage medium (exterior hard drive, etc.) and disconnecting it while using the Internet. Not like you need to play your music or movies on the Internet, and cracked games don't support internet connections. Only annoyance is constantly connecting and disconnecting the cables.

So the policy is ineffective. If pirates have enough know-how to avoid detection right now, I doubt they'll be too stupid to think of a simple solution like this.
It's not that. The issue is that the governments can sift through your hard drive without warrant, at any given time. Sure, you can use flash drives, but then your sense privacy is still gone.
 

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ender214 said:
So the policy is ineffective. If pirates have enough know-how to avoid detection right now, I doubt they'll be too stupid to think of a simple solution like this.


Except if the pirates ISP sees something suspicious, flag him for surveillance in order to save their own ass, and then bam, accused.
 

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ender214 said:
You know, people could probably get around this by downloading the files onto a detachable storage medium (exterior hard drive, etc.) and disconnecting it while using the Internet. Not like you need to play your music or movies on the Internet, and cracked games don't support internet connections. Only annoyance is constantly connecting and disconnecting the cables.

So the policy is ineffective. If pirates have enough know-how to avoid detection right now, I doubt they'll be too stupid to think of a simple solution like this.
Part of the treaty involves confiscating and/or destroying devices which old pirated material.
 

Darkhoodness

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It's a very damned scary idea, but I'm calling bullshit on this. If this gets implemented, there will be far too many contradictions - And who's going to enforce it? Do you know how much work it takes to look through millions of people's connections and see what they're downloading? And every man and his dog pirates stuff - You'd have to do a lot of pirating to stand out from the crowd.

The internet is a very important resource in this day and age - Mess it up and you'll upset a LOT of people. Everyone and everything that uses the internet will be affected - Including large buisnesses. They'll lose more money implementing this than they'll gain with a crackdown of piracy and forcing people to buy everything - And have you seen the state of the planet lately? Do you know how much mess the worlds governments are causing? They can't even properly handle the basic running of civilisation, let alone a complete crackdown of the internet (and do you know how incredibly massive the internet actaully is?). So I'm calling bullshit. It's just too stupid, and besides this, the worlds governments aren't organised enough to pull off something like this.

I don't think we have much to worry about.
 

Viper1265

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If this passes I'm gonna get as much supporters as I can and actually do something.
Canadians burned down the whitehouse in 1812 and a 200 year aniversary "re-enactment" seems about in order if ACTA passes through.