Ain't no homo gonna make it to heaven
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No doubt that it's indoctrination. A 4 year old shouldn't even know those words, muchless have any knowledge of the concept of hate.
Is it child abuse? Questionable. Should the kid be ripped away from his parents? Probably. Will it happen? No. This is America, where advocating the death of people who offend your fragile religious beliefs gets you support for being persecuted instead of being locked up in jail where your sick ass belongs.
Is it child abuse? Questionable. Should the kid be ripped away from his parents? Probably. Will it happen? No. This is America, where advocating the death of people who offend your fragile religious beliefs gets you support for being persecuted instead of being locked up in jail where your sick ass belongs.
Backlash. The very usage of terms like "homophobe" explains exactly why your seeing some major responses from the other direction. Basically it's an issue that has the US divided roughly 50-50, for a lot of differant reasons. The pro-gay movement has been increasingly offensive, belligerant, and unwilling to even consider the anti-gay side of things. Left wing media control helped maintain that and present the illusion that the anti-gay side of things was some tiny, fringe, majority, but as that was never the case your starting to see that side rallying and becoming increasingly vocal.TheYellowCellPhone said:
I'm pretty much at the center of the issue, whether anuyone wants to accept that or not, being in the middle between anti-gay and pro-gay. Being seperated from both sides (and disliked by both sides) it gives me a pretty clear perception of how things are moving. The left wing/pro gay side has had a lot of intertia, but intertia ultimatly fades, and your seeing the other side having rallied and it's likely to start pushing back big time. It may or may not happen, but I kind of figure you'll see the pro-gay movement gradually losing steam, and then things to start swinging back in a very anti-gay direction for a while. This will continue until all of the all or nothing "we will not negotiate on this issue" guys on both sides knock it off and meet somewhere in the middle, which will leave nobody really happey, but will throw a bucket of ice on the conflict.
I feel the need to question that 'Atheism is a religion' thing. There's an old quote that's been tossed around a lot, and I'm going to toss it up again. "If Atheism is a religion then not collecting stamps is a hobby." Even if you argue that Atheists have a creed or other such common belief, then it's simply a shared belief, and Atheism is still no more a religion than conservatism or feminism or transhumanism.gigastar said:
A standing ovation for a small child singing about how gays are going to Hell. This just astounds me. Everyone just laughs and cheers like it's the cutest damned thing they've ever seen. I'm seriously at a loss of words to express my disappointment.
First of all, greatest picture ever.Saulkar said:Really?! I mean... fucking really?!
People are calling this child abuse, indoctrination, vile, I call it fucking retarded. Seriously, in the age old question when did anyone ever know what God's opinion on homosexuals is? Who are they to judge?
No disrespect to peaceful people of faith but it is shit like this experienced in real life that made me reject organised religion. Especially what they are doing to this kid? I am hoping this kid does not understand what he is say because I sure as hell would have at that age. Now I kept this in the off topic section to avoid making this a (flaming argument) strictly religious debate (which it will unfortunately become without a doubt) so what do you gals and guys have to say about this?
Second of all. WHAT THE JESUS HELL JUST HAPPENED?
Third. Of course we know that a four year old can think for itself and make judgements on people because of what a 2000 year old book written by desert people thought.
I always find that an interesting argument, and undermines the heavy influence religion has on these view points. Such viewpoints as certain things being good and evil, or even the nature of heaven or hell are closely tied to religious bigotry, which are always backed up from the logic "well I believe it, so it must be true".him over there said:
While religion is not the sole reason for such behavior the argument cannot be made that religion is free from blame, nor that in a world without religion it would magically be the same.
I bet all the people in that video are thinking, 'heck yeah! Even a 4 year old knows that the bible is right! Even more validity for our beliefs! Praise tha lord!'
Anyway that's the saddest thing I've ever seen. I think I'm watching a bigot in the making even. It's like when you see a semi-trailer rolling down a big hill and there's a town at the bottom of the hill - the only thing that goes through your mind is 'this can only end badly'.
Anyway that's the saddest thing I've ever seen. I think I'm watching a bigot in the making even. It's like when you see a semi-trailer rolling down a big hill and there's a town at the bottom of the hill - the only thing that goes through your mind is 'this can only end badly'.
Sigh... I was already in a bad mood today to begin with. This isn't helping.
But believe me, it HAS been getting better.
Honestly, I think it has more to do with the internet and videos going viral. This church, and that other church that recently said homosexuals should be caged in an electric fence and be left to die, have most likely been teaching this stuff for DECADES! The only reason it seems like homophobia is getting worse is because videos and such of members of these churches finally happened to go viral. They've been doing this for years, nothings changed, it's just we've finally noticed it.TheYellowCellPhone said:
But believe me, it HAS been getting better.
Here's the thing though; the pro-gay side isn't taking away anything from the anti-gay side. That can't be said about the reverse though.Therumancer said:
If you don't accept homosexuality as a fact of life, then you have every right to just simply disassociate with gay people. That way nobody is harmed, held back, or even having their rights taken away from them. The pro-gay movement isn't asking the anti-gay movement to abandon their ideals 100% and to convert to their ideals, rather to just live and let live.
I would be offended, but fortunately there is not going to be a heaven for me, those people, the children or anyone because it doesn't exist. There will just be infinite nothingness. How's that for a sing-song?
I hope these People go to Heaven only to discover that it is full of gays. That'd be fun to watch 
According to several older Versions of the Fanfictions that would eventually make up the Bible Sodom&Gomorrha where destroyed because they where full of gays.
Which doesn't mean that god doesn't love you if you're gay, it just means that the Bible is stupid and if you're going to listen to People preach stuff that was changed and changed again and may very well have been the ramblings of several mad People in caves, you might as well make up your own Stuff.
By the Way, Lot's Wife was turned into Salt because she was curious. Being Gay, or curious, you're dead. And Lot himself was like "oh well, i told her she shouldn't look back so i guess she deserves death."
If anyone tells you that the Bible says that God hates this and that, he's probably right because the Bible is a Book filled with so much hate and malevolence that you'd need several Years to grasp it all.
According to several older Versions of the Fanfictions that would eventually make up the Bible Sodom&Gomorrha where destroyed because they where full of gays.
Which doesn't mean that god doesn't love you if you're gay, it just means that the Bible is stupid and if you're going to listen to People preach stuff that was changed and changed again and may very well have been the ramblings of several mad People in caves, you might as well make up your own Stuff.
By the Way, Lot's Wife was turned into Salt because she was curious. Being Gay, or curious, you're dead. And Lot himself was like "oh well, i told her she shouldn't look back so i guess she deserves death."
If anyone tells you that the Bible says that God hates this and that, he's probably right because the Bible is a Book filled with so much hate and malevolence that you'd need several Years to grasp it all.
Dear religious fanatics
God is not a sword for you to use to insult others, harm others or impose your own values upon them.
God is not a shield you hold up when called out on these attempts either.
Love, a sane atheist.
God is not a sword for you to use to insult others, harm others or impose your own values upon them.
God is not a shield you hold up when called out on these attempts either.
Love, a sane atheist.