Akimbo 1887 Shotguns... hmmm.

[Mr.Black]

The only problem with those shotties is that they have obscene range. If the range was cut down they wouldn't be so op.

 

[SarBni]

Shotguns are not sniper rifles. Shotguns in CoD4 were kind of underpowered, but now they've way overcompensated...They've pretty much made me want to stop playing the game, because it's getting fairly hard to get a positive K/D without using some cheap tactic or other in that game. I think I'll go back to CoD4...

 

[ReincarnatedFTP]

If the problem is they're killing you so much, you don't have a fighting chance, just use Copycat.

OTOH, while having nothing to do with Modern Warfare , I've found the couple of times I've used akimbo 1887s supremely entertaining, and the people who use them are hardly unbeatable.

Riot shield and knife seems like it would be a more annoying combination (used it, haven't had it used on me).

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Why don't you try that yourself?

Go on, type in 'Akimbo 1887s' into the search bar. See how many threads come up.

If you're going to be a search bar Nazi at least do the search yourself first in order to avoid making utterly useless contributions to threads.

I must apologise. I didn't realise that having different wording in the title is what is important. I thought that the thing that needed to be different was subject matter, and the dual-wield shotgun in MW2 has been discussed to death. In future I'll be sure only to point out repeated topics where the titles match perfectly, to avoid upsetting anyone.

Or how about just don't bother spamming people's threads with pointless posts?

I'm not upset in the slightest. I just feel that search bar posts are often just as bad as repeat threads, and completely pointless because if people have nothing new to discuss on a topic the thread will die anyway.

 

[Chipperz]

Why don't you try that yourself?

Go on, type in 'Akimbo 1887s' into the search bar. See how many threads come up.

If you're going to be a search bar Nazi at least do the search yourself first in order to avoid making utterly useless contributions to threads.

I must apologise. I didn't realise that having different wording in the title is what is important. I thought that the thing that needed to be different was subject matter, and the dual-wield shotgun in MW2 has been discussed to death. In future I'll be sure only to point out repeated topics where the titles match perfectly, to avoid upsetting anyone.

You could always just not point it out at all, that would probably be for the best.

OT - I'm OK with the dual-wielded shotguns out of a sense of nostalgia for the days in Hollywood where such things wouldn't even need to be reloaded until they were pointed at a boss that had a name more nuanced than "Goon 1". The knife, on the other hand, is insane. It actually takes less hits with a combat knife than an RPG to kill someone. That is not right.

 

[Dys]

Uhhh, perhaps I'm missing something really obvious, but I have no fucking idea what game you're talking about

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Or how about just don't bother spamming people's threads with pointless posts?

I'm not upset, I just feel that search bar posts are often just as bad as repeat threads, and completely pointless because if people have nothing new to discuss on a topic the thread will die anyway.

Not quite how it works though is it? People will contribute to the reset discussion with the same things they've written elsewhere, repeating the same topics effectively ad infinitum. For example, Furburt's first comment in this thread is a paraphrase of something he wrote a couple of days ago in another (where he included a kick-arse video of a soldier dual-wielding M249s). Just venture into the religion and politics forum if you want further proof that repeat topcis don't die because of lack of new material.

I take your point that search bar posts don't add anything to the discussion, but they serve to up the consciousness that the search bar should be used, and particularly for the OP as he is being criticised.

The OP is me.

This thread is search bar approved.

I DID A SEARCH BEFORE POSTING IT.

The indequacies of the search function are not my problem.

Now can you please let it go, you're already on a probation for making stupid posts in other peoples' threads.

 

[MirrorSweep]

Uhhh, perhaps I'm missing something really obvious, but I have no fucking idea what game you're talking about

Then why post?

OT:The models are overpowered to about 30ft, but if your sick of getting killed by them why don't you use copycat? Fight fire with fire.. and what not

 

[Mr.Black]

Or how about just don't bother spamming people's threads with pointless posts?

I'm not upset, I just feel that search bar posts are often just as bad as repeat threads, and completely pointless because if people have nothing new to discuss on a topic the thread will die anyway.

Not quite how it works though is it? People will contribute to the reset discussion with the same things they've written elsewhere, repeating the same topics effectively ad infinitum. For example, Furburt's first comment in this thread is a paraphrase of something he wrote a couple of days ago in another (where he included a kick-arse video of a soldier dual-wielding M249s). Just venture into the religion and politics forum if you want further proof that repeat topcis don't die because of lack of new material.

I take your point that search bar posts don't add anything to the discussion, but they serve to up the consciousness that the search bar should be used, and particularly for the OP as he is being criticised.

No one cares. Seriously. Stop being such a search bar Nazi. If everyone used the search bar then we could only talk about one subject once and never touch on it again. New members join all the time, and current members miss certain threads (Since we're not all here all the time). So get the sand out of your vagina and move on.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I take your point that search bar posts don't add anything to the discussion, but they serve to up the consciousness that the search bar should be used, and particularly for the OP as he is being criticised.

The OP is me.

This thread is search bar approved.

I DID A SEARCH BEFORE POSTING IT.

Now can you please let it go, you're already on a probation for making stupid posts in other peoples' threads.

If you re-read my sentence (quoted above) you'll probably realise that I was talking about search bar posts in general, and therefore OPs in general. I'll let it go now, but suggest that if you wanted it let go, perhaps you shouldn't have quoted me, much less made irrelevant comments that don't engage with the meat of my post. Anyway, best wishes with your thread, and try not to be a patronising little prick about other people's probation status - self-respect doesn't come from 'moderator's little lapdog' badges.

No, self respect comes from treating others with respect.

Which is exactly the opposite what your post did, and the particular post that got you put on the probation displayed the exact same rudeness, that's why I mentioned it. Calling me a prick isn't exactly constructive discussion either.

Now can you just untie your panty knot and move on, please?

 

[kinky257]

you cannot load a p90 one handed without putting it down on sumthing and doing it while shooting another one is gonna be even harder

pistols make sense because clips are light and you can knock it in with your other arm while no such thing can be said about a p90 and the shotgun is even worse

you know its not possible otherwise it would be done on screen

Whilst i agree on the loading issue, the p90 is designed to have a low recoil, and in there promotional material they had some one dual wielding two, though there is probably a fair loss in accuracy.
Around the 4:30 mark [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJEEISVTd4&feature=PlayList&p=7D806C1C46C4E18A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18]

 

[I Resurection I]

I hate akimbo shotguns weather its the akimbo sawn-offs or the akimbo 1887 shotguns. Its so annoying when you try to knife someone and then you suddenly get you face blown off. And when you watch the kill cam you find out that they werent even aimming at you.

 

[Mr.Black]

you cannot load a p90 one handed without putting it down on sumthing and doing it while shooting another one is gonna be even harder

pistols make sense because clips are light and you can knock it in with your other arm while no such thing can be said about a p90 and the shotgun is even worse

you know its not possible otherwise it would be done on screen

Whilst i agree on the loading issue, the p90 is designed to have a low recoil, and in there promotional material they had some one dual wielding two, though there is probably a fair loss in accuracy.
Around the 4:30 mark [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJEEISVTd4&feature=PlayList&p=7D806C1C46C4E18A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18]

Huge loss of accuracy. The P90 is just about the worst sub-machine gun to dual wield. If you're going to dual-wield an automatic, go for MP5K or Vector. Or just go G18's because they have superb accuracy.

 

[josetaco]

My thoughts are that there is a search bar and it ought to be used.

Akimbo anything is completely impossible anyway. No matter what John Woo says, it is impossible to wield two firearms and actually hit anything. And 2 shotguns would blow your arm off.


I don't play the game, I just had to make that point.

you have never fired a real firearm in your life have you

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

Akimbo anything is completely impossible anyway. No matter what John Woo says, it is impossible to wield two firearms and actually hit anything. And 2 shotguns would blow your arm off.


I don't play the game, I just had to make that point.

EDIT: The main problems I have with it is that MW2 makes both a half-hearted claim to realism, whereas doing that in real life is completely impossible, even for a trained soldier.
I mean Arnie could only do one, and that was a special version that didn't even fire at full power, and he says that when he did it, it caused him incredible pain.

Spoiler: fast forward to about the 2:47 mark

And secondly, it makes a claim to being 'modern' and no army, even Guerrilla armies unless they're severely strapped for weapons, use that 120 year old gun.

Ahem...
I beg to differ, you can't not hit something with those things!

 

[cainx10a]

yeah well they originally said Sidearms only which should have meant the pistols

Even that's unrealistic, the human brain simply can't multitask in such a way that it can keep 2 different guns pointed at targets and deal with the separate recoil from both, even if the person firing is ambidextrous. And pointing at 2 separate targets is just a jaunt into crazy town.

You don't really get to aim at two targets in MW 2 a la Code Veronica