Aliens Colonial Marines playable female marine petition
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While I don't like the film, failing to pay tribute to the arguably most badass character in it (Vasquez) is pretty ridiculous.
C'mon, Gearbox. This could've been a good opportunity for you to regain some semblance of dignity in terms of your sexual politics after...you know...this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqNm9OS3BQ].
Actually, on second thought, you'll probably never outlive that abomination. I wish a lot of horrible things on the people who thought that was a good idea.
C'mon, Gearbox. This could've been a good opportunity for you to regain some semblance of dignity in terms of your sexual politics after...you know...this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqNm9OS3BQ].
Actually, on second thought, you'll probably never outlive that abomination. I wish a lot of horrible things on the people who thought that was a good idea.
Signed it. They've already got the models, and it's an established part of the canon. Seems silly to leave it out.
Doesn't sound like a big deal needs to be made over it but I could get behind this, if they already have the models for singleplayer then they may as well just put one or two female models in multiplayer for those who want them. It's not really a big deal so I sign this petition upon the assumption that it's just politely asking for them.
It's been said already - but damn, you gotta have Vasquez. And if the approach here is to say, "Hey Gearbox, we'd really like this in your game" I just can't see how that's a negative.
Is some of the opposition for asking a developer to add/change something left over from the whole ME3 debacle?
Is some of the opposition for asking a developer to add/change something left over from the whole ME3 debacle?
i really think the FPS's in general need more gender diversity, cause Ive seen games that have 1 to zero women in them, and it makes them to me more immersive to have both.
the restored edit of 3 is pretty decent really, makes a lot more sense.daveman247 said:The third is worth a fair shake tooKahunaburger said:Definitely - great moviesAndy Shandy said:
(My advice is to watch Alien, Aliens, and stop there.)Then they should stop...
No as I said I work on Salary. I get paid a certain amount every month for meeting the expectations of my job. If I dont meet the expectations I chance salary cuts or loosing my job altogether. Thats how salary pay works (and soldiers get paid on salary)Sargent Hoofbeat said:
While I dont have access to every artist and programmers hiring conditions I can speculate that the general idea is you do your job to our standards you get paid so much. So as I said in the case of Warhammers chosen class, its my opinion that the artists did not do their jobs by claiming "they couldnt get the look right for female chosen". That response was a cop out, ensuring that players had one less choice to fit into the game that was supported by the lore.
Now on the hit box issue that was talked about, I have to disagree that there is a large varience in male/female models. On Average most men and women are about the same. Its true that thre are extremely large guys like me (Im 6'3") but there are more guys that are around 5'10" to 6' which is also the average hieght for women or at least the majority of women Ive met. There are some women that are as short as 4' but they arent the norm unless were talking about some pygmy tribal society. That said, I dont think there needs to be major differences in hit boxes, in fact I would argue that if the male and females were made to be average size then it might be possible to use the same sized hit boxes
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Making female character playable isn´t a smart move because of hitboxes,they would need to be the exact same size as the men and have the exact same proportions.Crazycat690 said:
If they made new hitboxes then woman would probably have smaller ones unbalancing the game.
(this is for playable female characters in general)
But makes no difference to single player?rolfwesselius said:
I really don't think it's that much of an issue. Given the bulk of the armour, women aren't going to be dramatically smaller. Look at Vasquez and Hudson.
There's a fairly marginal difference.
Edit: accidental quote please deleteBlunderboy said:But makes no difference to single player?rolfwesselius said:
I really don't think it's that much of an issue. Given the bulk of the armour, women aren't going to be dramatically smaller. Look at Vasquez and Hudson.
There's a fairly marginal difference.
The only reason hitboxes would have to be different is if we take "Include both male and female models" to mean "Include the same male and female body shapes every game uses ever, where males are exemplified Meat Statues, and women are dainty li'l things."SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
What you're doing is called "begging the question." The problem being addressed is that poor character modeling leads to females being excluded from multiplayer, and your reply is that we can't include them because of the differences in character models.
Creating good male/female model differentiation is more an issue of proper animation and a recognizable silhouette. It's not about differences in height, and it's not about make men huge and women tiny -- that's the ridiculous false dichotomy that got us into this problem.
And funny enough, most of the problem doesn't come from poorly-constructed female models. It comes from making the male models insanely huge and beefy every time, all the time.
That's great to hear! I'd love to see Gearbox (speaking corporately, not about any individuals working within) turn around the very negative PR surrounding DNF. This would be an excellent way to do it, too -- by including female models alongside realistically-proportioned men.Chemical Alia said:
(Hell, I think they could get away with including an Easter egg -- female marine finds the corpse of a Duke look-alike, and comments, "Who's f***ed now?")
The hitbox excuse is usually a gigantic cop-out when you hear an artist use it. It's completely possible to design female characters that fit default male hitboxes if you plan their appearance accordingly, provided you're not trying to stretch a skinny 15-year-old in a miniskirt into them after the fact. And a setting like Aliens would be an ideal one for female characters to blend in nicely. Not sure how that would be shoving anything in the player's face.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
(Note, I'm speaking hypothetically, not stating anything about Colonial Marines itself or what's actually in the game.)
That's awesome!Dastardly said:
Hey, Vasquez, has your hitbox ever been mistaken for a man's?Blunderboy said:
No. Has yours?
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Basically what Chemical Alia said. If Halo can do it, something based directly on Halo's source material can do it.
Despite having never watched the associated movies or planning on buying the game, I signed the petition. If you have the opportunity to have customization you should be able to customize your gender, especially if ample assets that can be played, no less, are already implemented in the single player.
You sir win some internets.Kahunaburger said:Hey, Vasquez, has your hitbox ever been mistaken for a man's?Blunderboy said:
No. Has yours?
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Basically what Chemical Alia said. If Halo can do it, something based directly on Halo's source material can do it.
Also, I'm sure that their were female marines in AVP and I never noticed any difference in the hitboxes.
I doubt the hitbox argument really holds all that much weight. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Halo: Reach, GRAW, and Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 & 2 all have female models in multiplayer? I don't remember there ever being any sort of gameplay issues with players using a female model in those games.
If Gearbox doesn't put female marines in the multiplayer game, I really question their devotion to staying true to the movies. Tough-as-nails female characters was a fairly obvious theme throughout the Alien series.
If Gearbox doesn't put female marines in the multiplayer game, I really question their devotion to staying true to the movies. Tough-as-nails female characters was a fairly obvious theme throughout the Alien series.